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Apple files new ITC complaint against Samsung

0. phoneArena 06 Jul 2011, 22:45 posted on

Apple has filed a complaint against Samsung with the U.S. Inetrnational Trade Commission, seeking to block U.S. imports of the Samsung Galaxy S handsets and the Samsung Galaxy Tab tablets; in the complaint, Apple accuses the Korean based firm of imitating Apple's devices...

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posted on 08 Jul 2011, 18:53

70. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


where do you get your info that google stole the notification from apple and that is why they are not suing lol also you say android rushed there notification and is half baked then why did in every iphone vs android comparison the reviewers would always wish iphone had android notification and if android notification is ''half baked'' then ios notification was utter rubbish simple as...there is nothing innovative in ios 5...whats next apple created cloud music and ota update and wireless sync...hey apple must have created the phone too

posted on 06 Jul 2011, 23:38 4

7. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)


samsung should release a phone withe all the same specs and design except it shoulkd have TWO apple style home buttons on the bottom... thatll show them

posted on 06 Jul 2011, 23:57 10

8. cheetah2k (Posts: 1596; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


"Samsung has followed each of Apple’s groundbreaking products with imitation products that incorporate Apple’s technology and distinctive design"

Hang on lemme see how:

1. 4.3" SAmoled+ screen? - neg - iphone is 3.5"
2. Single front button? - ok, but this was done long before Apple - so neg
3. 8MP camera? - neg - iphone is 5MP
4. Dual core CPU? neg - iphone is 1Ghz Single Core A8 (and doesn't own the ARM tech - it licences it just like everyone else)
5. 1Gb RAM? - neg - iphone is way less
6. iOS icon design - ok, TW looks similar but this tiling effect was done long before Apple thought it was a good idea - so neg
7. the list goes on....

I think Apple are grasping at straws, purely because the SGSII is the first Androd phone that really provides a top class lag free experience, and with better hardware than the iPhone - and whats more, Samsung beat Apple to the punch with a dual core SKU. Technically speaking, Apple are behind the 8 ball, so any wonder they're crying foul and trying to block Samsung.

IMO, I think this is a clear indication what sort of company Apple is when put under true competition and product pressure - ie, not very nice! The whole suit also doesnt make sense when, for example, every company out there making TV's look pretty much the same.. So why no one is suing each other??

Another reason why I refuse to buy Apple products. This is just rediculous

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 01:27 4

10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"I think this is a clear indication what sort of company Apple is when put under true competition and product pressure - ie, not very nice!"

In some respects you are probably seeing Steve Jobs' response to competitive pressure that goes all the way back to when Apple lost the fight against MS over the license Apple gave MS for Windows. MS rocketed into prominence and left Apple/Steve eating MS' dust. Now Steve is in the position of dominating a market and he will die before he lets any competitor gain a foothold.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 04:04 5

20. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Wow, you've enumerated features on Samsung phones that Apple did not include on their complaint, lol.

So what you're trying to say is that if someone copy's design cues from the iphone, but just make it a little bit bigger, it's no longer copying? Lol.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:20

29. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol the galaxy s phone are not just ''bigger''...they are different materials for a start, different technology screen,home button is different shape and has also 2 capacitive buttons or has no home button and all capacitive depending on region..has a slight hump at the bottom, power button on the side,comes in different shapes and sizes,some has keyboards,different materials on the inside,camera and flash location and design very different...so just to reiterate, no its just a little bit bigger their is a lot of differences and some similarities but hey when phones are just a piece of slab there's bound to be right....and finally the biggest difference is that the galaxy s phones, most specifically the galaxy s2 are better than the iphone...i have an iphone 4 and not as you were trying to mock me last time in a different article by commenting that i only had it because it was given to me out of choice. i have an ip4 because i like the design and the amount of quality games but i am not fan of any brand but like whatever is best at the moment and therefore i am not blinded by fanboyism like isheeps such as YOU and fandroids like others which is why i also have the galaxy s2 as my main phone because it is the best phone at the moment and it shows in all tech blog reviews and also the sales.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:29 4

36. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Hahahaha, the court granted Apple access to samsung devices because Apple had presented STRONG evidence of copying. Are you saying that you know better than the courts? What you're presenting here are excuses. The galaxy s lines have copied iDevices designs or interface one way or another. Even their latest tablet looks like an ipad. Stop wasting your time making excuses.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:16

40. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Wow they got access to products that are freely available in which apple could have got themselves without the court.... lol why do you care for apple so much....every comment you make is positive apple

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:55

55. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


How could Apple get hold of those galaxy line of devices when they are not available yet for the public? And, it is better that the permission would come from the court for due legal process purposes.

It's not that I care so much for Apple. Heck, if I find myself a device that works better for me, I'd dump my iDevices right away. I just want to give my fair opinion just like the rest of us here. And when I see some off comments, I'd definitely respond to it.

posted on 08 Jul 2011, 19:05

71. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


the galaxy s devices have been available for ages...i have had the galaxy s2 for over a month...but all your comments are from apples point of view its apples right and everyone else is wrong...theres plenty of phones and not everyone will want the same, idevice works for you thats great...would be nice if there was different varients of iphones though like 3 types, same spec but just different designs..what do you think lol would love one with a slide out gamepad....now nearly everone got an iphone and theres nothing to differentiate yours to someone elses...dont feel as unique as it use to when it first came out.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:40

43. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


I never denied there ain't similarities but there are so many differences that you can tell a difference between the 2...never heard of anyone buying a Samsung product thinking it's a apple product lol would be funny though. Also there are so many varients of the Samsung galaxy s device's...why would I be making excuses...I gain nothing from Samsung winning...all I see is that finally apple have got competition and obviously apple think so too...hopefully this drives the 2 to produce even better products for us....can't wait to see the next iPhone design. Hoping its as drastric as it was going from the iPhone 3gs to the iPhone 4...iPhone 4 due for upgrade around the time the iPhone supposedly coming out so can't wait...bdissspointed

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:59

56. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Then why are you so bothered with Apple suing Sammy? It's their right. If Sammy is innocent, then they have nothing to worry about and it would just make Apple look like a cry baby. Apple employs a legal department team that gets paid high $$$ whether Apple has a lawsuit or not. Might as well make them work.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 17:09

45. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol posted without finishing. was meant to say will be disappointed if its an iphone 3g to 3gs style upgrade ie only difference is the inside...i like to have a different looking phone each upgrade...

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 01:41 3

11. Omz9 (unregistered)


Samsung has managed to copy every characteristic of an iPhone on all the mobile lineup. The screen size and other aspects are to make it competitive against manufacturers like htc. Who can forget the samsung android player which mimics the iPod and so on. Apple is right in protecting themselves and if the roles were reversed samsung would do the same thing.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 02:49

13. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Hate when companies want to ban each other from the market, it's such a bad move, and the looser is the consumer who perfers an specific brand.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 03:03 3

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I hope you didn't miss the key sentence, the one that says that Samsung has Apple by the balls with patents that are necessary for the iPhone and iPad to exist.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 04:03 4

19. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Go on. Name those patents that Samsung has that are necessary for the iDevices to exist.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:30 6

23. ibap (Posts: 765; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


Here are the patent numbers:

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/04/29/apple-vs-samsung-the-battlelines/

U.S. Patent No. 7,675,941 on a "Method and apparatus for transmitting/receiving packet data using pre-defined length indicator in a mobile communication system"
U.S. Patent No. 7,362,867 on an "apparatus and method for generating scrambling code in UMTS mobile communication system"
U.S. Patent No. 7,447,516 on a "method and apparatus for data transmission in a mobile telecommunication system supporting enhanced uplink service"
U.S. Patent No. 7,200,792 on an "interleaving apparatus and method for symbol mapping in an HSDPA mobile communication system"
U.S. Patent No. 7,386,001 on an "apparatus and method for channel coding and multiplexing in CDMA communication system"
U.S. Patent No. 7,050,410 on an "apparatus and method for controlling a demultiplexer and a multiplexer used for rate matching in a mobile communication system"
U.S. Patent No. 6,928,604 on a "turbo encoding/decoding device and method for processing frame data according to QOS"
U.S. Patent No. 6,292,179 on a "software keyboard system using trace of stylus on a touch screen and method for recognizing key code using the same"
U.S. Patent No. 7,009,626 on a "systems and methods for generating visual representations of graphical data and digital document processing"
U.S. Patent No. 7,069,055 on a "mobile telephone capable of displaying world time and method for controlling the same"

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:24 4

30. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol great reply, now lets see what 530gemini has got to say...who always believe apple are in the right always as do all isheeps.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:35 4

38. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I could copy and paste Apple's awarded patents here as well. Would you be impressed then? Lol.

The bigger question is. Did Apple infringe on any of those claimed samsung patents or not? Did sammy win?

Goodness, you're easily impressed with copied and pasted contents that proved NOTHING :)

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:20

41. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


What doesn't apple try to patent or trade mark...think they patented grid of icons lol

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 20:03

57. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Apple will patent anything that they can patent. From their icons, to their smart covers, to their iphone bumpers. They are a multi billion company. There are tons of opportunists out there who would sue them in a second just to get some of Apple's wealth given the chance. Can you blame Apple for being paranoid? They've learned from their past mistakes, and they're not playing the victim anymore.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:31 1

37. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Did Samsung win?

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 07:57

26. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Edit: Didn't see post above.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 03:46 5

15. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


Samsung needs to stop copying Apple's designs and just be more creative! The original Galaxy Tab demonstrated at CES was a much better device than the current one! They only changed the design to match Apple. (Removed the 8MP camera, USB ports etc)

I know people like to complain about Apple and try to make this an Android vs IOS thing.
But why is nobody questioning Samsung's business ethics? Why are they trying to make their devices look like Apple's. (Galaxy Tab)

I'd rather support Asus with their Eepad transformer! They offer great value for money with more differentiating features to the iPad2.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:34

31. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


whats wrong with making a device thinner and lighter and that is probably the reason they had to take away some features...it gives more options to people who are considering an honeycomb tablet more choices, if they want something light and thin the got tab 10.1, if the want something heavier and less slim but more features then the got other tabs for that....i personally dont care for tabs, my iphone 4 and galaxy s2 does everything a tab does but in a smaller scale and am happy with that but obviously some want that on a bigger screen....i believe in that the more choices and variety available the better it is for the consumers.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 18:36

48. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)


You believe in one size fits all unlike Apple with their one size fits all mentality. Poor iSheep, your master wants no variation between you all. :)

Judging by all the negative markdowns on completely debatable comments it looks like the iSheep are comming together.

That or one of the sheep created more accounts just so they could get more mark downs. (Miz)

Lol, it's so sad. I think I might cry.

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 04:46 5

22. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)


Oh look, another Samsung vs Apple article!

This will end with 250 comments and hopefully it won't end with homophobic name calling like a little kid. -.-

Let's try to keep the name calling and insults at zero and have a respectable debate. :)

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:34

24. ibap (Posts: 765; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


Kind of like the Casey Anthony story being a gift to the 24/7 news apparatus?

posted on 07 Jul 2011, 07:13

25. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)


Yep, that story was everywhere. Facebook arguments and all.

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