Apple files new ITC complaint against Samsung
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After going through both side's filings, the ITC will decide whether or not to hear the case; if they decide in the affirmative, hearings would begin in 15 to 18 months. As we reported, the courts have granted Apple's request to see Samsung's unfinished new products to make sure that they do not infringe on the Cupertino based firm's patents. Samsung's request to see the work in progress on the Apple iPhone 5 and the Apple iPad 3 was turned down.
Gleacher and Co. analyst Brian Marshall says that since Samsung owns a number of patents that Apple needs to manufacture the iPhone and iPad, it would make sense for Apple to give up the challenge and agree to a settlement with Samsung that would allow both firms to cross-license each others' intellectual property. Apple remains Samsung's second largest customer for parts but as we reported, the former could end up replacing Samsung with Taiwan Semiconductor when the A6 chip rolls out in 2012.
Meanwhile, there is some vague gossip going around that speculates that Samsung will separate its semiconductor and LCD business from the rest of the company to avoid a conflict of interest. A conflict in Samsung's displays unit occurred last year when a shortage of Samsung produced AMOLED screens forced the company to stop supplying them to HTC for the DROID Incredible and save them for use in the company's own Galaxy S handsets.
source: AppleInsider
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1. feli_g posted on 06 Jul 2011, 23:02 8 7
Apple is only afraid because they know that samsung products will sell more...
4. quakan posted on 06 Jul 2011, 23:12 8 6
yeah right the iphone 4 is the #1 selling smartphone of all time with the 3gs and 3g filling in at 2nd and 3rd
they both need each other but they don't want the other company getting an upper hand...they'll come to a settlement eventually
12. Dion (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 02:29 4 4
Have you seen the Galaxy S II sales lately? Samsung is becoming quite a challenge and I'm sure 3 million in 55 days without a US launch makes the Galaxy S II the biggest Android debut to date in terms of sales figures.
Sure, the iPhone series has sold more than the Galaxy S series overall, but the Galaxy S phones are experiencing a much faster growth rate than iPhones. Apple is starting to see that not Android anymore, but Samsung alone, is presenting a threat to it's market share. You can't deny that.
16. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 03:56 7 3
Yeah, because they imitated the iphone, that's why they're selling :)
Samsung is no threat to Apple. Apple is annoyed by Samsung for copying their iDevices.
27. taz89 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:50 4 4
so what you are saying is that people are buying the galaxy s2 because they think its an iphone lol not everyone is dumb as isheeps.....if that was the case they would have started suing in early 2010 when galaxy s was ANNOUNCED and not when galaxy s became successful.....galaxy s2 is doing well because it is currently the best phone available....
33. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:11 4 1
People are buying the Galaxy S because they can finally get a non Apple device that looks and feels like an iphone. Not everyone is a fan of Apple. Not everyone likes Apple's walled approach. But they do like iDevices design and OS. Hence, the Galaxy S is a close alternative. Galaxy S is not the best phone available. There's no official claim to that. In your personal world maybe :)
42. taz89 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:27 0 0
Maybe its just me but I didn't get the s2 because it looks and feels like an iPhone 4 and it doesn't....the only thing that I will say that is similar is the grid icon app menu but apple were not the first with a grid icon....I personally got it because of the specs and like you pointed out is the best phone to me....but I would say that a lot of techblogs have said the same even apple loving sites such as engadget....sales also seem to say its the best...before you say doesn't mean.its the best, alot of apple fanboys say hey we sell the most so we the best.
51. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:25 0 0
Yes, it's just you, lol.
62. mememeeee (unregistered) posted on 08 Jul 2011, 00:35 0 0
galaxy s2 > iphone in every way
69. taz89 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 18:45 0 0
me and a handful of mobile reviewers lol
2. Whateverman posted on 06 Jul 2011, 23:03 9 6
Can we just get Judge Judy in here to shut them both up. "No one is copying of of you Apple! Shut up and quit filing lawsuits. And Samsung, you're crazy if you think we're gonna block Apples products from entering the US! Both of you grow up and stop acting like children or i'll ban you both!"
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17. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 03:58 4 6
And why should Apple shut up? So that Samsung and the other copycats can just sit back, relax, and wait what's next for Apple and just copy? I don't think so. The copying should stop.
28. taz89 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:01 5 4
apple never copies do they....ummmmmm have you seen ios5 they have copied from everyone including from devolopers from there own platform....
ios 5 notification-android/web os/samsung touchwiz(slide to notifcations such as miss calls and messages from lockscreen)
ios 5 volume shutter button- camera+ had this last year on their app but apple made them remove it because it was a private api and appl also said that it would confuse the isheeps...lol guess the isheeps have matured enough for apple now.
ios 5 quick camera access from lockscreen- copied from wp7
ios 5 imessage- blackberry messenger
sooo what is so Original lord isheep in ios 5...everything that ios 5 will do can be DONE ALREADY on other OS'S......finally your right apple should stop copying i agree with you there completely.
34. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:20 4 1
Do you know each and every touch gesture patents included on iOS? Did you know that the notification tray has been a part of iOS since the first iphone? Do you know how many touch gesture patents Apple owns that has not even been implemented on their iDevices? Do you know why google is not suing Apple for that notification tray? It's because they can't.
Apple has the right to sue anyone whom they feel is infringing on their patents if they have a strong evidence. Why would it bother you if you're confident that no one is copying Apple's iDevices? It's because you know deep inside that they do :)
44. taz89 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 17:04 0 0
dont really know much about patents to be honest but i think they have patented the codes behind how the gesture is performed and there is always more than one way to perform those gestures, otherwise apple would be suing everyone if there was only way of doing the gestures you are on about... i also understand they recently won a patent on capacitive screens but again there is more than one way of making them.....never saw pull down notification on iphone before ios5 and if they had it for so long why did it take 4 years to implement....lol i know you mean it was in the source code of ios but then again it could have been in the source code of android when it was meant to be a bb challenger...AGAIN i have never said no ones copied apple so dont know where you got the from...everyone copies everyone i just dont get how apple fanboys think apple never copy anyone and will defend them till death...google have not patented anything android hence they are a opensource platform....they cant sue anything to do with android...apple could use the exact code of any android features and not get sued...
52. 530gemini posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:34 1 0
Bottomline is, let anyone sue if they feel like their protected IP's have been infringed. Let them battle it out in court, and may justice prevail. Pull down gestures have been available in many apps for the iphone. It's just never used in any of its native apps. So if Apple decides to use it now, it's their prerogative, and if google feels that they've been ripped off, then let them sue Apple. Being open source has nothing to do with patenting features. Google can patent any of their IP's (if they actually have one, lol). Why do you think google entered that bidding for Nortel? Which Apple won btw. So they can openly let everyone use those patented tech? I don't think so. Don't play naive. If you're really smart, you should know how patents are very important to any tech company in protecting their investments. Apple is just protecting and exercising their rights.
68. taz89 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 18:44 0 0
apple did not win,a consortium including apple,microsoft and others won....the sale has not gone through yet and will be decided by next fall and yes it is not good for google as they need as many patents as possible as they dont really have any to protect themselves....im not being naive and know how important patents are and as i said before i dont have any real knowledge of them...i guess we will see who wins out at the end...cant remember the last time apple won in court...
