Apple drops on Forbes Most Innovative list to number 79
0. phoneArena 15 Aug 2013, 15:24 posted on
With Apple's board putting pressure on CEO Tim Cook to get Apple back to the days when it was considered "innovative," Forbes Magazine published its list of the 100 Most Innovative Companies in the world; as recently as 2011, Apple was number 5 and last year the Cupertino tech titan was the 26th most innovative firm...
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1. Topcat488 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Time to get out of the "Courtroom", and into the R&D Room.
3. networkdood (Posts: 6250; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
We have been saying this for years. Their iProducts are overpriced and overrated. The rest of the world knows.
34. stealthd (Posts: 915; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
Who is this "we"? Speak for yourself. You're not a leader of some Apple hate group, and if you were that'd be pretty sad.
47. philansel7 (Posts: 27; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)
haha ! looks like you are the son of steeve Job to say somenthing like that !! haha Haters gonna hate :)
49. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)
"We" are everyone with the exception of "You" and the two iFools who i+'d "You"!!
27. sipha (Posts: 251; Member since: 12 May 2012)
I dont even understand how in 2013 they made the list: i honestly cant think of anything innovative apple has done after the iPad in 2011..
51. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Ipad is a bit generous. I was thinking the original imac because of the all-in-one form factor of the traditional macintosh computer but with colors in a world of white, beige, and gray, a lot like what Nokia's doing with the Lumia and Asha's and others have started following suit. However, that wasn't so much "innovative" as it was "different" for the sake of being different, so scratch that. Hmmm...
Itunes? No, other music stores predated it. Thin laptop? No, other companies had that, too... Colorful OS? No. Touchscreens? No. Smartphones? No. Touchscreen smartphone? Nope. Tablet? Nope. MP3 player? No. Professional graphics desktop? Nope. Personal computer? No. Particular ports or transfer tech? No, other companies came up with them and they added them to their hardware...
Yeah only things I recognize them doing differently is copying others, branding it as their own and no one else's (and even patenting it), overpricing like crazy, preventing users from maintaining their own equipment that they purchased, and getting away with murder by overwork and exposure to harmful chemicals and toxins.
48. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6135; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
yes stop law suits and redesign you're products. and finally they drop down hopefully next yeard they will be at number 90 or 100.
4. Kreft (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
They have never been innovative. Expensive peace of crap trinkets lol?
18. MrKoles (Posts: 296; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
Actually, we can say Apple invented the smartphone...Anybody who feels at home in technology has to admit it! But on the other side, in the last few years they haven´t done anything special.
20. PK1983 (Posts: 164; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
No they invented a feature phone that looked smart, and cost as much as a fashion phone. Kind of like a supermodel wearing a lab coat and glasses.
33. MartyK (Posts: 688; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Bless you PK1983!! Bless you!!...Finally someone understand feature/smart/PDA
52. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I (and others) have been saying that for years. Ios still is barely a smartphone system (loosely defining smartphone) and only because it finally got certain core smartphone functionalities added to it, but still not all there. Windows Phone 7, for all its shortcomings, was still more capable and a true smartphone compared to iphones of the time.
32. stealthd (Posts: 915; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
I'm guessing you were born in the early 2000's, since that's the only valid excuse for being so ignorant.
44. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Apple does get more credit than it deserves regarding innovation, honestly.
5. zackh121556 (Posts: 98; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)
when will people stop blaming apple dropping on steve jobs death? the truth is apple has been dropping from their innovative-ness for quite some time now. It's disappointing but only for apple and everyone else that feel it is still cool to own an apple products. the reason apple is dropping in almost every category is because it's no longer cool to walk around in iphone when all of your friends have cheaper price phones that do twice is much.
7. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
It is a weird thing to think about though. The last time Steve jobs left the company it nearly failed. And in the years since 2011 iPhone market share has nearly halved the last time I checked.
9. dorianb (Posts: 347; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Novo Nordisk is 70
Apple is..... 79th.
10. Santi_Santi (unregistered)
$700 USD for a feature phone is no longer innovation
30. stealthd (Posts: 915; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
Sounds like you don't know what a smartphone is.
13. nortoja79 (Posts: 34; Member since: 21 Feb 2010)
It's to be expected. When a once in a lifetime brain like Jobs is no longer here, its only natural to expect this. I agree with everyone, that Apple is no longer "innovative", however to be "fair" to the Apple apologists, I don't recall seeing Samsung, LG, HTC, etc on the list either.
14. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 356; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Hey, be fair people. Do you really think that Apple can revolutionize a market every three years? C'mon! Radical innovation does not happen continuously but rather discontinuously. Don't forget who brought you the modern smartphone, the modern tablet and the modern way distributing music and software (Appstore).
15. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Why are they even ON the list?! Not only this year, but ever?
And let's take a quick jog down memory lane. What have they come out with this year? Let's see, new muck pro that looks like a miniature trash can, a new boring iteration of their outdated mobile operating system. And that's it. I see nothing innovative in that list.
16. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 356; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
You can't produce innovation like products on an assembly line! Your comment implies that a company could come up with radical innovations on a yearly scale. That is impossible. Still, one have to admit that Apple might become a victim of its own marketing strategy.
17. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1551; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Starbucks is 19? Wtf, is making a new flavor drink that innovative?
21. lolrus (Posts: 29; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Innovation is not just with products, can be processes, business practice, strategy, whatever.
46. dorianb (Posts: 347; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
While my initial reaction is to agree. I think it might have to do with switching over to SQUARE for POS transactions.
19. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1650; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
This is only the begining,,... RIP apple
22. shamataa (Posts: 202; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
They lost it since the 4S. Apple thinks they own the world. Apple as a company is a idiot.
26. JMartin22 (Posts: 713; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Those assets will one day plummet, as people begin to see change is a good thing. Then you'll have to scower to defend them in some other way. They can't rest on their laurels forever.
29. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Apple has sucked recently and you know it, so just stop. :P
31. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1107; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
I bet Microsoft said the same when they were on top of the hill with windows mobile during the palm pilot and pocket pc days. It still takes innovation to maintain that stock pile of cash. Releasing minor revision ipads and iphones for the next few years will not cut it when your competition is taking away your customers.
28. PhoneCritic (Posts: 352; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I have said it before and will say it again nothing last forever. Apple had it's time just like MS had it's time, Intel had it's time, Blackberry had its time, Nokia had it's time, Now it's Samsung time and in a couple of years it will be another company's time.
40. muser793 (Posts: 40; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
just search the opposite of innovation n u can find Apple logo as the answer...
43. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
After the iPad and iPhone 4, they should have been dropped this low. After those 2 products, what has Apple done that was so great, amazing?
50. nlbates66 (Posts: 278; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
I'm no fan of apple, but I can't say I care a great deal about what a bunch of investors think.
53. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Yeah, looking at the list, it's pretty awful. Nintendo is #84, and the only thing they've done is come out with the Wii U, which, last I checked (which was a while ago, I'll grant) was still being outsold by the original Wii. Microsoft (Surface, Windows 8 and Windows Phone, Xbox One, new Office, etc.), Nokia (plethora of exciting new devices that are forcing other companies to modify their devices), Sony (PS4), and Samsung (lots of devices that are generating a lot of consumer appeal, new mini-stores in Best Buys) aren't even mentioned, let alone other tech companies (although MediaTek and ARM are on there). A bunch of food and pharmaceutical companies are in there. Heck, Louis Vuitton and Estee Lauder are on the list (I guess to appeal to the female readership?).
Fluff piece with little to no value.