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Apple did not infringe on Samsung patents says ITC judge

0. phoneArena 14 Sep 2012, 16:03 posted on

In a preliminary ruling made on Friday,an ITC judge ruled that Apple did not infringe on Samsung patents while producing products like the Apple iPhone and the Apple iPad; Samsung had filed a claim in the middle of last year saying that Apple had infringed on four of its patents...

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posted on 14 Sep 2012, 22:54

79. oister85 (Posts: 501; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


What are you saying apple is the one trying to stop the competition in court .apple is the one who started

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 23:59

83. androidrockzz (Posts: 51; Member since: 04 Feb 2012)


samsung fans i just want to know whether the scroll down menu bar is samsung's touchwiz?? or for andorid devices but what ever Apple has copied the same scroll down menu bar isn't that a copy????

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 01:55

85. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Don't try to act like a neutral guy.......
Samsung has many essential patents for 3g and more....no but they din sue any one......now they are goin to sue apple to tech them a lesson.......
Lets forget smartphone what about tablets???? Can u make a triangular tablet or something else than a rectangle........

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:04

86. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


I think u haven't seen lg prada....which was released a year before first iphone and had same design as iphone had....did lg sue apple....no....
How the heck can apple sue samsung for what they already copied.....

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:42 2

88. mrochester (unregistered)


I don't think Apple have behaved in an anti-competitive way. Sueing a company and having it's products blocked and banned over designs and ideas they could work around or pay to license isn't anti-competitive. Sueing a company and having it's products blocked and banned over designs and ideas that can't be worked around and can only be licensed is anti-competitive.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:45 1

89. mrochester (unregistered)


Well that's because Samsung's violations have already been ruled upon and they were found guilty... Samsung's case over LTE hasn't yet been seen so we don't yet know whether Apple have infringed upon anything or not.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:50 2

90. mrochester (unregistered)


There's nothing inherently wrong with using someone elses patents as long as you've a) got permission and b) paid a license fee (assuming the company that holds the patents want to license them to you). Maybe Samsung aren't sueing other companies because they are all paying a license fee?

I'd rather leave it up to Samsung's designers to come up with a tablet that was suitably different.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:51 2

91. mrochester (unregistered)


Apple is the one who started what? Court cases over patents have been going on for years, long before Apple ever entered the smartphone market.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:53 1

92. mrochester (unregistered)


Of course it's not free; the patent holders are perfectly entitled to receive a fee for their work. The problem arrises when a patent holder refuses a fee and instead wants your product banned and removed from the shelves. This is the anti-competitive behaviour.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:55 1

93. mrochester (unregistered)


I guess LG didn't sue because LG don't own the required patents and designs to actually do so? You have to own these things first before you're able to sue someone for using them without your permission.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 04:35 3

96. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


I'm sorry but it's the Apple that started the war...

If things such as 'swipe-to-unlock' or 'rounded corners' are to be said to be innovative and protected in favor of Apple ; REAL innovative things SHALL be protected as well in favor of patent holder (in that case SAMSUNG).

I do not see Samsung threatening to sue other companies = they do coexist on a similar technological level and do understand that coexistence not being bully is a key.

Samsung is only replying to a bully Cupertino competitor that looks like apart of great marketing skills to convince people to their product is missing a lot.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 04:42

97. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


It seems to be, but the patent for Android's drop down menu has not been approved yet. Google applied for it a few years ago.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 05:08

98. BlacRaZredge (Posts: 36; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


in fact sammy, htc, nokia, motorola, rim, and whoever else there is, is all teamed up against apple. apple has made this market near impossible for others to make products that are inovative without infringing on one of apples bogas patents. i wish there wasnt patents on general things, but you can only patent a product as a whole. things like chipsets and other things of that nature should have patents or rights to since everyone uses them collectively. apple should be considered a monopoly and broken up like microsoft.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:09 1

102. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Dont even try to go reasonable here. the hate for apple runs deeper tha the Pacific and Atlantic combined. I am not the biggest or even slightly big iPhone fan but I see what you are saying. You have already been dubbed a troll you are climbing Kilamangaro with no equipment.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:16 1

103. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Doesnt matter if you hit Apple for LTE it will resonate to all. and it wont stand. If it does watch the ripple and see how happy you are.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:25 1

105. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Yeah like gogle bought motorola because google made all those patents huh. Come off it. Apple versus Android. MS is getting paid off of damn near every Android handst made. Apple had a patent that would not stop Sammy from making phones but Sammy is trying to shut Apple down utterly their is a difference. Apples previous ban on Sammy and HTC didnt stop me from getting my phone just had a software change. this will or would be totally different.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:30 1

106. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


MS is not broken up and is not a monoply and MS has stock in Apple also.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:31 1

107. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


And if you break them up then chop up Google/Motorola also

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:33

109. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


What you think Sammy and HTC have these angelic halo's over their heads. Get real

posted on 16 Sep 2012, 23:08

117. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


soooo, a real tech patent such as LTE should not be used but freaking stupid design patent should be used..

daymn, tell me where did you get that crack, bro..
I need one before i buy the iPhone 5, so I will be delusional right before i get it.. otherwise, I will regret not getting a better phone from 2011..

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 16:53 2

13. Quezdagreat (Posts: 428; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Apple is winning like Charlie sheen

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:16 2

22. MartyK (Posts: 920; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Hum, this is no surprise, could you imagine the type of money that would be lost in the stock market if they actually gave Samsung a fair shot?.

Apple Stock would plummet, the money all these Judges and politics have invested in Apple would disappear...

Samsung only fair shot/ revenue is to sell to China (1 billion + people) and get Apple ban from that market.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:22 1

25. mrochester (unregistered)


What's with all the conspiracy theories? There are checks and balances in place to prevent these exact situations from happening. No, the judges, jury, foreman, janiter, canteen chef and waiting staff haven't all been bribed, it's simply that Apple didn't violate any of Samsung's patents. Samsung did got a fair shot, they simply lost.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:28 3

27. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


mate this is the one of the only times i'll say there are back handers and money been passed round so that apple come out squeeky clean.

apple want complete control, there like a child , if there told no or someone has something better then them they throw a tantrum and sue

basically Apple, if you cant keep up and compete well go quietly into the pages of history and let others raise the tech bar

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:37

33. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


did got??? lol

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:37 2

34. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


The downfall of Apple is inevitable. They are on the same path Rim was on about 5 years ago...

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:52 1

41. mrochester (unregistered)


I'm sorry but this is just pure fantasy. You're simply inventing stories as a means to vilify Apple and vindicate Samsung, for whatever reason you feel it necessary to do so.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:07 1

50. mrochester (unregistered)


It's much the same as the downfall of Samsung is inevitable. The length or your success and how fast you fall are the interesting points. I wonder out of Samsung and Apple who will fall first? Neither show any sign of slowing down just now, that's for sure, so I think it's a bit too early to make any predictions!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:13

52. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


well seeing as apple are crapping on every other company i can make an educated guess.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:43 1

68. mrochester (unregistered)


I think it's too difficult to tell because both companies are still growing at a phenomenal rate; it'll only be when the rate of growth starts to slow that I think we'll get some insight.

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