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Apple did not infringe on Samsung patents says ITC judge

0. phoneArena 14 Sep 2012, 16:03 posted on

In a preliminary ruling made on Friday,an ITC judge ruled that Apple did not infringe on Samsung patents while producing products like the Apple iPhone and the Apple iPad; Samsung had filed a claim in the middle of last year saying that Apple had infringed on four of its patents...

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posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:29 2

62. mrochester (unregistered)


Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................... LOL

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:27 3

59. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


mate your the only one with deluded views, you try to mask your biased pro apple views but it shines straight through

where was you when Samsung were getting sued over rounded corners? ohh thats right because it was apple they were right to do so

Apple are running scared suing, and finally samsung arent standing up and showing them they cant just walk over company's and expect to come out clean

if every company took a leaf out of apple's book, we would see a complete halt in tech innovation and development...companys would patent every little thing they could and spend more time in court then designing there products. plus with apples way company's would only release a phone once every 2 years with little spec bumps nothing new though. then 1 year later release another spec bump, basically the same phone but maybe abit faster etc.

example if nokia used apple's way of working the nokia n8 would have been replaced with a phone that looks the same, might have abit more memory and maybe a tweaked camera for 13 megapixel......imagine how long it would take to get to the nokia 808...years but no nokia innovate and bring there A game ...wheres apple's A game?

rant over

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:33 2

63. mrochester (unregistered)


I think Apple were perfectly right to sue Samsung for their violations just as much as I think Samsung are perfectly right to sue Apple for whatever Samsung thinks Apple have infringed. I'm sorry, but I can't help if the verdict comes out in Apple's favour just as much as I can't help if the verdict comes the other way.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:40 3

66. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


''I think Apple were perfectly right to sue Samsung for their violations just as much as I think Samsung are perfectly right to sue Apple for whatever Samsung thinks Apple have infringed''

love how you said what ''samsung think apple have infringed''

but with apple you put '' Apple were perfectly right to sue Samsung for their violations''

so its what samsung thinks , but with apple its fact if they say samsung are in violation.

mate your so apple biased its unbelievable. face facts apple used LTE in the iphone knowing samsung would sue, they then went mad buying LTE patents getting ready for the case....you wouldnt go out buying patents if you were in the right and had nothing to worry about

the verdicts are a joke,but if apple keeps getting there way give it 4 years and lets hear you all complain that tech hasnt evolved or leaped forward ..all thanks to Apples stranglehold and closet of patents(most for other peoples work)

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:45 1

89. mrochester (unregistered)


Well that's because Samsung's violations have already been ruled upon and they were found guilty... Samsung's case over LTE hasn't yet been seen so we don't yet know whether Apple have infringed upon anything or not.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:25 1

105. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Yeah like gogle bought motorola because google made all those patents huh. Come off it. Apple versus Android. MS is getting paid off of damn near every Android handst made. Apple had a patent that would not stop Sammy from making phones but Sammy is trying to shut Apple down utterly their is a difference. Apples previous ban on Sammy and HTC didnt stop me from getting my phone just had a software change. this will or would be totally different.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:19 1

54. willard12 (Posts: 1722; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


LTE is not a FRAND or essential patent. You went without LTE for 6 years, now, since SEP 12, 2012, it is a standard? I guess a rectangle with rounded corners isn't a standard though? Samsungs competitors are the companies suing them. It looks like all companies only have 1 competitor and Apple has 6.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:37 2

65. mrochester (unregistered)


I thought LTE had been ratified as the next generation wireless technology, thus sealing the associated patents as FRAND? LTE has only become the standard to which everyone will work precisely because the companies who hold the associated patents have entered them into the pool on a FRAND basis.

One of the key conditions for a particular technology to become a standard is that the respective parts of it are licensed on a fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory basis. Failure to declare standard essential patents is a form of patent abuse.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 05:08

98. BlacRaZredge (Posts: 36; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


in fact sammy, htc, nokia, motorola, rim, and whoever else there is, is all teamed up against apple. apple has made this market near impossible for others to make products that are inovative without infringing on one of apples bogas patents. i wish there wasnt patents on general things, but you can only patent a product as a whole. things like chipsets and other things of that nature should have patents or rights to since everyone uses them collectively. apple should be considered a monopoly and broken up like microsoft.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:30 1

106. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


MS is not broken up and is not a monoply and MS has stock in Apple also.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:31 1

107. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


And if you break them up then chop up Google/Motorola also

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:16 1

103. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Doesnt matter if you hit Apple for LTE it will resonate to all. and it wont stand. If it does watch the ripple and see how happy you are.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:18 2

24. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


basically because this will effect apple badly it cant happen. i hope it happens more then anything it'll be the best news in the history of the mobile world

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:42 2

38. mrochester (unregistered)


I'd be careful what you wish for...

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:20 2

56. joey_sfb (Posts: 6014; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


mrochester, you have things backwards, or whatever that rock your boat.

Neither will benefit from having a duel to the death in a pool of sharks.

We will see retribution on apple this life time.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:26 1

26. Ralston1983 (Posts: 70; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)


I'm not taking sides here, but I do get where mrochester is coming from. He's basically saying that if Samsung would have won the case to stop Apple from using LTE, what's to stop them from going power hungry and slapping HTC LG and Moto with the same suit?

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:32 2

29. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


the fact they aint apple , so they wont go power mad

besides HTC have there own LTE patents as they were going to take Apple to court too

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:34 3

31. mrochester (unregistered)


I think that's an incredibly naive view.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:40 2

36. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


mate most of what you have said its biased, your trying to justify it by saying what if samsung goes after nokia HTC etc yet samsung have expressed no intention, they are only going for Apple

and why? because apple can get a win over complete crap patents then surely samsung can take them down with a real case LTE is more important then rounded corners

besides nokia HTC and others all have LTE patents.....Apple well they tried to buy as many as they could because they knew they were infringing on samsungs patients but with apple they dont care they think there above everyone else and went ahead with putting LTE in there *cough* new phone.

Its apple vs samsung and hopefully HTC vs samsung

is samsung had any intention of stopping others wouldn't they have done so already

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:45 2

39. mrochester (unregistered)


Samsung may have come to a licensing agreement with other companies, we simply do not know.

But give Samsung the ability to block competition from using LTE instead of requiring them to license it and you end up with a very anti-competitive situation.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 10:33

109. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


What you think Sammy and HTC have these angelic halo's over their heads. Get real

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:36 3

32. mrochester (unregistered)


For some reason many people here are happy to implicity trust that Samsung won't take any and every opportunity they possibly can to further themselves against the competition, including having said competitors products removed from the shelves.

Call me a pessimist but I simply do not trust ANY company not to further their own lot in whatever way they possible can; this is a capitalist ecomony after all.

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 01:55

85. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Don't try to act like a neutral guy.......
Samsung has many essential patents for 3g and more....no but they din sue any one......now they are goin to sue apple to tech them a lesson.......
Lets forget smartphone what about tablets???? Can u make a triangular tablet or something else than a rectangle........

posted on 15 Sep 2012, 02:50 2

90. mrochester (unregistered)


There's nothing inherently wrong with using someone elses patents as long as you've a) got permission and b) paid a license fee (assuming the company that holds the patents want to license them to you). Maybe Samsung aren't sueing other companies because they are all paying a license fee?

I'd rather leave it up to Samsung's designers to come up with a tablet that was suitably different.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:49 1

40. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


ooo but its ok for apple to be "power hungry" right? you people are jus a blind as they come.....but what you fail to realize is when samsung made the threat to sue apple for the LTE they did so to shut apple the f**k up! not so they can turn around be like the very greedy and power hungry company they are fighting against!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:58 2

46. mrochester (unregistered)


Personally I don't think Apple are power hungry. They just don't want Samsung et al copying their s**t, so they are sueing them for doing so. That's not the definition of power hungry, that's simply Apple saying go make you're own bloody stuff!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:56 2

44. mrochester (unregistered)


Also a company doesn't have to be 'power hungry' to take out their competitors; they simply have to operate in a capitalist market (which they do).

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:03 1

48. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


YOU ARE BLIND! .........nuff said

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 18:20 2

55. mrochester (unregistered)


I actually think that it's only me and Ralston1983 who can actually see in here. All I'm getting in here is a feeling that even when not guilty of infrigement, Apple should still be punished in some way, just because.

I haven't yet figured out why Samsung should be able to run roughshod over Apple with impunity.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 17:57 1

45. Aeires (unregistered)


Google, that's what. They have a strong partnership that Samsung would be fools to damage.

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