Apple could ship 5x more iPad 5 units than iPad mini 2
0. phoneArena 02 Oct 2013, 21:30 posted on
We just heard that KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is expecting Apple to upgrade the cameras on the upcoming iPad 5 and iPad mini 2 tablets, which isn't much of a surprise. The real surprise comes from another part of Kuo's predictions, which says that Apple could end up shipping more iPad 5 units than it does of the iPad mini 2...
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1. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Why buy an ipad mini when for $250 I can get a Nexus 7 32gb running a superior OS with better hardware and a better screen.
2. darkkjedii (Posts: 18391; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Are you trying to convince us, or yourself? Just by a friggin nexus, if that's what you want dude. Who cares what it has? If people want in iPad mini, they're gonna get it, if they want a nexus they're gonna get it. Once again who are you trying to convince it? I want a mini, my wife wants the full size one. Why buy an iPad mini? Cuz I want one...makes sense huh? Enjoy your nexus dude lol gee wiz man...
Check it out, a guy wants an iPad mini, he walks into apple, plays with it, decides I like this. I already have an iPhone so the OS is familiar, and all my apps, pic, vids, games music, etc will sync right to it. It sells for $339 + tax wow I have $339 + tax. Rep comes over, sells him an iPad mini, and he likes his purchase. Makes sense huh?
3. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
There is no way the Nexus 7's 1080p screen is better than the iPad Mini's Retina.
Nothing wrong with the Nexus 7, but with 1,000,000 more pixels I objectively have to go with the Mini. Plus I'm a bigger fan of the ratio, except for movies.
9. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I guess I'd have to respond by asking "why?"
But I'll explain: the iPad Mini 2, if it comes with a Retina Display, will be packing over 3,000,000 pixels at a PPI of 326. The Nexus 7 packs over 2,000,000 at a PPI of 314. So not only will the Mini 2 have a sharper looking screen, it will also be able to display 50% more detail than the Nexus 7.
Furthermore, if the iPad's display is of any reference, the color production will be fantastic, so at worst it will most likely be a tie with the N7 as far as display quality.
As I said, I prefer widescreen for movies and videos, but I prefer the iPad's resolution for browsing, reading, and games, not to mention the extra 0.85" of real-estate.
I hope this answers your question!
10. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
First off you just came to the table with a ton of misinformation.
The nexus 7 is 323ppi, it has 2304000 pixels
The Ipad Mini 2s RUMORED RESOLUTION is 2048x1,536. That puts the ipad mini II at 324 ppi.
IF it is true. 2048x1536 means it would have 3145728 pixels, or 841728 more than the Nexus 7, these pixels are spread out more on the ipad mini so the "50% more detail" is really nothing. If the 841728 pixel difference was on a 7" display in terms of sharpness/detail it would be dominating the Nexus 7 but it is not 7".
Pixels Per Inch > resolution, they go hand in hand, the larger you make a display the further back you need to be to make it look good. 4K will help with this in TVs, you will be able to sit 4 times closer to your TV and it would be just as detailed as sittings 4x further away if the tv was 1080p.
11. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
"50% more detail" is the ONLY thing. I only included PPI to satisfy people who care about it for whatever reason (and I'm disappointed when I see Android fans argue based on PPI, because the "PPI war" is really just a marketing tactic started by Apple with its "Retina" display in the first place). Raw resolution is always more detailed, no matter the PPI because, by its very nature, a higher-pixel display can physically display more detail (because that's what pixels do...)
Would you rather have a 1-inch VGA screen (i.e. 640x480) at 800 PPI than a 5-inch 1080p screen at 440 PPI? Because by your logic, the extra pixels provided by the 1080p screen would be "really nothing." In fact, the 1-inch VGA screen would be far superior.
The N7 uses the extra pixels afforded to it (1200p instead of 1080p) to display the Android navigation keys, so counting them in the equation is technically correct, but in practical use the vast majority of the time the bottom of the screen will be filled with a black (or in KitKat maybe gray) bar.
So basically the N7 and the iPad Mini 2 will have the same PPI, but the Mini 2 will still be able to display more information on the screen at one time, given the amount of pixels.
14. YuLeven (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 May 2013)
Raw resolution is always more detailed?
Oh, pleased to know. I though that my eyes where cheating me when my 22" 1080p display appeared to be a tad less sharp than my 5.5" 720p Galaxy Note II.
15. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Can your 1080p display show you more information at any given time than your Galaxy Note II?
16. YuLeven (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 May 2013)
This can hardly be described as 'level of detail'. In fact, amount of possible displayed information and sharpness or level of detail are quite different things.
I'm not questioning that the iPad Mini does displays more information at once compared to the Nexus 7. However, you should take note that more pixels do not mean more information being displayed in an absolute way.
In the account of the Mini 2's display there are factors as 4:3 display ratio and bigger display.
You should note also that a standard 15.6" laptop display at 720p displays far more information at once that an full blown iPad 4 with its 2048x1536 resolution, mostly due the fact that the former sports 'just' an 9.7" display.
After all this discussion, however, we're still missin an important point. Amount of displayed information is a quite subjetive matter. The iPad Mini will show more of webpages and books at once, indeed, but will show less when playing videos, for your account. It all comes down to your use.
That's why sharpness is quite important when we speak about tablets, specially those small ones. They're not machines meant for productivity, displaying more information at a time, as well, is no killer feature. You will have to scroll webpages a tad more with a Nexus 7, but than what? Scrolling your finger through the screen is what you do most on a tablet.
4. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I'm confused as to exactly what production problems they're having. The PPI would be 326, which isn't exactly mind-blowing, so it's not an issue of packing that many pixels in. Is it just a problem of the sheer amount of pixels?
8. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Sharp makes both apple's screens and the new nexus7s. Right now sharp does not have the capacity to go above 7", the nexus 7 just made the cut.
5. jaychildz (Posts: 113; Member since: 31 May 2013)
when i look at the 300+ iPads we have sitting in the stock room of this best-buy i wonder if sending all these iPads is a good idea. Just because one sells a million doesn't mean 2 will sell a billion. if a million people have #one how many of that million will buy #2. Just some food for thought i guess
7. Commentator (Posts: 3570; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
All I know is one of those in a certain Best Buy stock room is the one I immediately returned after receiving it as a gift. I'll be picking up a 2 to replace it, so as far as I'm concerned Apple can't release it fast enough.
12. GoogleSafariFox (banned) (Posts: 100; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
NOOOOOO WAY! APPLE Please we Want that iPad Mini 2! We waited so long for the Improved iPad Mini 2. Please! iPad 5 is cool but the size and charm of iPad Mini is Great! Please More iPad Mini 2!