Apple confirms iOS 5, iCloud, to be unveiled June 6th
0. phoneArena 31 May 2011, 08:07 posted on
Apple’s WWDC event on June 6th is one of the most anticipated events this year, but what will it bring? Cupertino has just released a statement confirming some major announcements…
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1. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
I think Apple has realized that year after year people cannot be and are not surprised by a new iPhone like they were with the first two. I think that they are intentionally leaving word of it out to start rumors and expectations of no iPhone at wwdc. This was when it does come they will get their shock factor back. Which is one of the marketing departments most potent weapon. I believe early confirmation of IOS 5 and icloud(an uncharacteristically forthcoming action by Apple) is another way to throw people off. But I could be wrong.
2. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4526; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Well I guess Apple may have some other secrets up its sleeve. I hope so because this will spark even more innovation in the mobile market. Competition is good, both Android & Apple will get better from this. First Google's I/O & now Apple's WWDC. This is great for the consumer! Keep on battling Google & Apple. This only makes us the consumer win!
3. Ben (unregistered)
and the consumer will share their wealth to the better of the both.
5. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lol, Google is like "in b4 Apple" on the cloud music service.
I'll pay attention to the event, if only to see whether Apple will begin to inch its head out of its ass or shove it further in. IOS better impress socks off. And if the iphone shows up, okay, but I'm not holding my breath.
7. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Totally right. iOs5 better be super fucking dope. I'm talking a whole new os. Incremental updates with a dozen features were good just to get the os mature and up to speed but its there now. It needs a revamp as well as features.
34. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
i agree, but really, what does it not have that it needs horribly besides notificaitions and a general touchup? and dont site what android has and wp7 has as far as layout, cause they are all different oses...
and sniggly, i hope u know google music is and will be an epic fail... just like google tv... and google wave...
38. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Widgets and increased customization are a couple I can think of.
9. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Thank god there was an Apple article today you could troll on. Apple doesn't race to do it first. It does it better.
10. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I wouldn't call what he said trolling. I have an iphone but I agree with the above post. If its just a touched up version of ios4 I will be greatly disappointed.
12. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4526; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You really don't know if Apple "does" it better or not. You hope Apple "does" it better, this is an old idea with an Apple spin to it. iCloud better not be the main thing on the plate for Apple. Let's just hope iOS5 is something special & not the same old, same old! That should be your #1 concern. If Apple "does" it better iOS would be a beast now not the same stagnant OS from the original Apple iPhone! I am so hoping Apple steps to the plate with a big bat!
18. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
there are many other rumors out there for ios5. voice commands through out is another biggy. yes, another thing that google has already done, but not done well. the truth is, fandroids are just as likely, if not more so to bash apple as apple fan boys are to hype them. both of these always happen before anything is known.
calm down. take a breath. wait 6 days. then make a response rather than speculation.
22. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4526; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yes you are right about the speculation. I am trying to speculate that Apple indeed has a kick ass iOS5 in the works. I hope that my speculation is right instead of all the been there done that, that iOS has become. I don't want iOS5 to be the same as iOS4 as I am sure you don't want that either. I really want Apple to do great so that it pushes Android to another level. If iOS pans out then it's good for the iFans & good for the Android fans because Google will guarantee their Android Ice Cream Sandwich will be even better than they outline. By the way my voice commands on my Android phone happen to work extremely well, so I don’t know where you got that Google hasn’t done it well.
16. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Everyone, meet Taco, PA's resident Charlie Sheen flavored iFanboy. You'll note that I was expressing hope for Apple to put out a better product. And simply commenting that Google got a functional cloud music service out before Apple did.
Have you satisfied your daily quota of fail yet, Taco?
19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'll pay attention to the event, if only to see whether Apple will begin to inch its head out of its ass or shove it further in. IOS better impress socks off.
Again I'll quote you directly. I'd say you were talking sh*t about Apple as usual as you referred to them having their head in their ass even though they're one of the strongest performing and most innovative companies in the world.
23. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Uh huh. So even though I don't like Apple and I think their business practices are morally shitty, I'm giving them a chance to redeem themselves in the technical arena. When I say a company has their head up their ass I am not usually referring to their level of success. I've already acknowledged how successful Apple is monetarily. But they are a very unfriendly comapny to deal with, no matter where in the realm of business you are.
Would you believe, Taco, that I didn't used to hate Apple? That's right, I once liked them. I liked their products. I liked how they looked and operated. In high school my biology teacher had Macs in her classroom, the ones which combined the monitor and processor, and I would make up excuses to work in her lab just so I could play with the computers. When the iPhone came out I respected it as a good product that another carrier had.
Antennagate changed my opinion of Apple entirely.
By the time that rolled around I already liked Android but I still gave props to Apple and was still considering trying an Apple device. And I was even forgiving when the issue was first discovered. My reaction was one of shock and anger when Jobs pulled his "hold your phone correctly" bullshit. That was when it all ended. That was it. And it's only gotten worse from there.
So I have my reasons, Taco. I have my opinions on Apple and why they don't deserve their success. If they change their ways I'll cheer them on and rethink my opinions.
However, you'll still be a worshipping asshole.
28. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
"Antennagate changed my opinion of Apple entirely."
What Steve Jobs showed was all the main cellphone makers suffered from antennagate and it was Apple customers that was the most vocal about it. That event showed Apple customers demand more from Apple products.
"I have my opinions on Apple and why they don't deserve their success."
You are entitled to your opinions, but the fact remains the world loves Apple products because the other companies failed to provide those same products at the same quality and price point, respectively. I'll give you an example, I waited 4 years for Apple to get the iPod Touch right (the still camera is a disappointment), and this was my first Apple product. The iPod Touch was my first MP3 player simply because the other MP3 players could not let me surf on the internet with ease (surfing the internet on Nintendo DSi or Sony PSP was horrible). I was just blown away with the retina display and ease of use.
Based on my experience, I went out and bought two more iPod Touch for my friends (none of them had an Apple product) and each was also blown away by the experience. I haven't bought the iPad, but once Apple gets it at the spec's I want, I will probably buy an iPad.
As for a cell phone, because I am spoiled by the iPod Touch retina display, there is no way I am going to those cheap displays on the non-Apple cell phones. I don't like the iPhone's 3.5" display, which is why I never owned an iPhone.
If you don't like Apple products, that's okay because the rest of us tried them and cannot believe how good the value proposition Apple gives to its customers. I would love to buy non-Apple products, but so far none of these manufacturers can compete with Apple.
29. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What Jobs showed was a bunch of doctored videos. I have to grip hard on the TOP of my Droid X in order to get it to lose any signal. Every antenna has its weak spot. Antennagate was about Apple a) putting the weak spot in a stupid place (right where your pinky/ring finger goes, if you're right handed, and right in your palm if you're left handed) and b) acting like a bitch when they were called out on it. They made a stupid design decision, it was pointed out, and they have made absolutely no steps to actually fix the problem or rush out a new, fixed design. In the end they told everyone to either shut the fuck up and take a free case (only available for a couple of months!) or return their iPhones and leave Apple alone. That is not an example of Apple fans demanding more, that's an example of Apple fans receiving less and being told to deal with it.
I never said Apple's products are bad overall. Their computers are way overpriced for the specs they offer, and there are phones that match every quality of the iphone 4 (almost) at the same price or cheaper. Their phones are not majorly more reliable than any other major manufacturer, and their business practices are so ruthless that they cross into the void of the morally bankrupt. Which is why they have a 60 billion dollar slush fund.
I'm happy that you're satisfied with Apple's products. I just want to make sure that the record is always straight.
31. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Okay, then let's set the record straight.
1) You said: "What Jobs showed was a bunch of doctored videos."
Do you have proof? If so, where is it? Did Motorola, Samsung, RIM, HTC, et al sue Apple for defamation over these videos?
2) You said "acting like a bitch when they were called out on it."
a) The Vice President handling the iPhone4 issues was fired. Just search Mark Papermaster's departure. He didn't do his job.
b) Apple offerred free cases for those dissatisfied customer who didn't want to return the phone
c) About 2% returned the iPhone 4, which is 1/3 as many as the previous phone.
I don't recall Motorola, RIM, Samsung or HTC offering free cases in the same magnitutde as Apple.
3) You said: "Their phones are not majorly more reliable than any other major manufacturer"
The iPhone has iOS4.x. It's aesthetically pleasing. You have access to the iTunes and AppStore. Etc, etc, etc.
The bottomline is consumers around the world choose to buy Apple products, which is why Apple has been so profitable and building cash.
32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Hahaha sniggly gets owned point for point. Well done sir.
33. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Not so much, Taco. BTW, congrats on waiting for someone else to say something before you chimed in. You really are an intellectual lightweight.
FYI, I'm doing research before responding. Because I'm that fucking awesome. Probably shouldn't bother, because just like every other time I send your sorry ass back to the pit from whence you came, you have absolutely nothing to say.
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, let's set the record straight.
1) Apple iPhone death grip proof (On Verizon models, no less!)
Competing smartphone death grips?
Okay, let's examine this: the Nokia signal never dipped nearly as far as the iPhone's did. All of the rest of the phones were gripped REALLY REALLY HARD by the tester in the video, especially the Droid X. All I have to do with the iPhone, and all I've had to do multiple times (for a time I worked for AT&T and handled brand new iPhones) is lay my pinky over the antenna connector, and the signal drops.
The other companies did respond. HTC, Samsung, and RIM all issued denials, with Samsung at least explaining where their antennas are and how the Apple video on the Omnia was simply impossible. Motorola just published ads claiming their phones didn't have the death grip, and no widespread reports of a death grip issue were ever reported for any of the other phones. In fact, with Motorola, you usually hear nothing but praise about their phones' signal strength and call quality, and no dropped calls.
The only evidence you have are Apple's videos. I have the evidence of millions of real users. So where does that leave us?
2) Yes, yes I did.
a) Yes, they did fire him. A good step, and about the only one they really took.
b) They offered free cases until the end of September. A case costs about three bucks. Apple makes hundreds off each iPhone. They could've afforded offering free cases indefinitely. But they didn't, and they didn't fix the antenna design.
c) This was probably due to the fact that other than the antenna (fixed by having a case) the iPhone 4 isn't a bad phone.
d) I stand by my assertion that Apple acted like a bitch. Here are Phonearena's Antennagate related articles from the shitstorm period:
Apple replies to the iPhone 4's "Left-handed death grip"
Apple to deliver software fix for reception problem as soon as Monday?
Steve Jobs says Reception problem? What Reception problem?
Apple continues to put its spin on reception issue
Why is Apple looking to hire antenna engineers?
Apple says iPhone 4 problem is software based and will issue an upgrade in a few weeks
Apple deletes forum threads about Consumer Reports article
Apple antenna engineer had concerns about iPhone 4 dropping calls
UPDATED:Apple press conference: 3 million iPhone 4's sold and free cases for all
Watch as Apple squeezes the life out of a Motorola DROID X
Apple removes videos showing competing smartphones antenna performance on U.S. site
Apple exec in charge of iPhone engineering leaves the company
36. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
(cont) That last post was in August.
It took over a month. And the final solution was a bone tossed with a smirk.
The GzOne Boulder had issues with battery life and speaker quality. Within a couple of months, with no excuses or bullshit, every new Boulder shipped by Casio had completely redesigned speakers and packed extended batteries as well as the standard batteries. This continued until the model was phased out by the Rock.
The LG VX8350 had a manufacturing defect wherein the spring in the hinge, combined with the thinness of the hinge's plastic, caused the plastic to fatigue and break. Verizon replaced all effected phones for free, extended the warranties for them by 3 months, and soon after the problem was discovered LG was shipping fixed 8350s. They then followed closely with the 8360, which had a completely redesigned hinge.
A batch of Droid Xs shipped at launch had defective screens which died shortly after purchase. Motorola and Verizon immediately acknowledged the issue, fixed the problem, and replaced all phones affected for free. I experienced this firsthand when one-and only one- of my customers at the time had the issue. Her second Droid X was entirely problem free.
The Samsung Glyde had a completely unworkable touchscreen. Samsung acknowledged the problem, tried repeatedly to fix it, somewhat fixed it, and then retired the Glyde shortly afterward in favor of the Rogue.
Apple is the only manufacturer I can remember which did literally nothing to fix its faulty phone design, and has in fact persisted in releasing the phone on Verizon without fixing the issue. So yes, they acted like a bitch. (cont)
37. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
3) What the fucknuts does the iPhone's aesthetics and features have to do with its reliability? If you're arguing about value, let's see...
Android has 2.3 Gingerbread. Depending on the skin you have or don't have, it's very aesthetically pleasing. The homescreen can be completely customized to your liking. Live wallpapers are an option. You have Amazon MP3, the Android Marketplace, the ability to directly load music on your phone without syncing to iTunes-or you can use Doubletwist if you're an iTunes kind of guy. You have Google Maps with Navigation, which is entirely free and works almost perfectly every time. You have expandable memory, Adobe Flash, your choice of screen size, resolution, camera quality, processor speed, internal memory, aesthetics, carrier. And you don't have to live in fear of what Apple will try to control next.
The bottom line is that consumers can be swayed by effective marketing and brand identity. Apple has both. Apple is also extremely aggressive when negotiating deals with every aspect of the tech industry. They are extremely profitable because they ensure that they pay as little as possible to their business partners while pumping as much cash out of their customers as possible.
Consumers around the world only choose to buy Apple mobile products, because it's the only arena in which Apple manages to be even slightly competitive in price. I recently priced a Samsung laptop with a bigger screen and identical specs to Apple's 15 inch Macbook. It had a much bigger hard drive, the same processor, bigger screen, and, obviously, greater outside compatibility than the Macbook, for FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS LESS.
But no wonder Taco likes you. You're arguing from the bandwagon approach. "Everyone buys Apple, it MUST be good!"
Say hi to Twilight for me.
30. That Guy is here (unregistered)
Wawawawait....Value? I've done the math before and Apple would have to drop prices across the board by 30% to compete with identical hardware. My laptop has nearly the exact internal hardware of a MacBook Pro with a slightly better processor and when they were both new my laptop was....about 40% cheaper. I also found that iTunes launched and ran faster then on my friend's MacBook Pro. As well, the price for that model of MacBook dropped about $100 after 2 years and my laptop's dropped by $200. I won't dispute that they have good quality, but the price really leaves a lot to be desired.
8. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
this is going to be interesting..... i hope
11. quakan (Posts: 1245; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
hopefully a new iphone is unveiled...my contract is up in august and i plan on getting the next one.
13. BabaBlackSheep (unregistered)
woah ! June 6th ! it's my birthday !
20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I could be wrong, but I'm thinking we'll see some major updates this year. Smartphones are advanced enough where I don't see anything totally revolutionary that can come out, but we'll see. My iPhone already does everything I could want out of a smartphone.
21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I highly doubt that iOS v. 5 is going to go in a completely new/different direction. Notwithstanding some of the opinions expressed here, Apple doesn't have a failure on its hands. MS had a failure in WM and needed to start over with WP7. Expect the same UI from v. 4.X to v. 5.X. The question is how they handle what goes on behind the U.I. Like notifications.... Is there some kind of tray-like function that shows what has come in and gives the user the option to open/expand the tray without having to exit the current application/function?
We will know shortly.
24. Must have LTE (unregistered)
Hardware ... the i5 MUST have LTE to remain current.
Even AT&T is releasing LTE phones later this year.
For Apple to NOT release LTE would be a HUGE miss.
Even with a larger/better screen or larger/better camera or larger GB storage ... not sure if that would be enough to attract folks versus LTE.
25. iwebdroidberry7 (Posts: 230; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Really? Because so far ALL LTE devices have been a huge miss. A HSPA+ will do just fine. People will get their "4G" iPhone
26. Sniggly (Posts: 7220; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
A huge miss, eh? They're getting decent reviews on Verizon's website, and Verizon customers can be pretty harsh in their reviews.