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Apple bosses interviewed: 'We're not in the junk business... new is easy, right is hard'

0. phoneArena 19 Sep 2013, 09:09 posted on

In an extremely rare complete interview session, the CEO Tim Cook, alongside lead designer Jony Ive, and the newly promoted software chief Craig Federighi, the who-is-who of Apple, sit down to talk shop with Bloomberg reporters...

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posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:25 22

7. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Its almost as if they know they are not innovating anymore...

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:47 13

23. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


...and they're proud of it

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:22 3

50. frydaexiii (Posts: 1460; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


What they actually meant : We don't innovate anymore, but we found out how to resell the same old stuff with minor tweaks at a lower cost for us.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:29 8

10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Their comment about the iPhone 5C lol.

I like Apple, but all I got from this was denial.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:30 18

11. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


They're not in a junk business, they're selling garbage.

...

:x

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:34 5

15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Disagree completely.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:41

21. Castro90 (Posts: 41; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


oh c'mon. he made effort to come up with a good pun, give him a fighting chance!

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:46 1

37. McLTE (Posts: 874; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I have to agree with you Smurf.. I disagree also.

I hate Apple.. I really really do. BUT.. I will never say their products are "garbage", because they aren't. Apple makes good quality products, which I can totally appreciate.

It's everything else about the company that I hate - closed system, iOS, arrogance and not listening to what the customer is asking for.. etc.

I'm really sick of everyone bashing back and forth about how X or Y phone is garbage, just to incite arguments. Grow up people.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 20:04 1

95. rightcue805 (Posts: 55; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


I love my mac for sure, I hate iphones, i have had the iphone 3g 4,4s and the 5 (for a day) then i switched over the the galaxy s3 becuase I wanted something different. have the expandable memory is really nice.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 13:47 1

78. Spikes9s (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


I agree with you PapaSmurf, Apple does execute and produce some of the best hardware in the industry, however the truth is that the wanna control us too much by forcing users to use the i(retarded)tunes for everything! I want the freedom to choose how I transfer my files (mp3/videos/fotos/etc) to my device, for me the copy/paste will do just fine without Copertino controling what goes on my phone....

posted on 20 Sep 2013, 01:11

101. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


so do i.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:30 3

12. HASHTAG (unregistered)


Hate me all you want, but I don't find an issue with the price of Apple products. I can buy an Apple product not having to worry about losing support over a long period.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:40 1

20. Castro90 (Posts: 41; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


context please

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:43 4

22. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


When I owned Apple products, I never had a problem. However, I never had a problem with service when Windows was the dominant platform and I have not one issue now with Android being the world wide dominant platform. I would not expect to either. Leaving 80% of the world that uses android out on a limb would be rather risky.

John B.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:15 3

29. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Tell that to owners of their products over three years old.

My mom got a new Windows 8 Lumia on Monday, and we tried hooking it up to her 2010 muckbook pro (why she opted to get an apple when no one she knows has one I have no clue!). However, because apple doesn't allow direct download of drivers or software - you have to get it from the mac app store which is only available on 10.6+, and hers has 10.5.8 - the laptop didn't recognize the device, even as a USB drive or mass storage device, and prompted us to go to the website to download the Nokia software suite for mac, which isn't a big deal, much like one does for Windows. However, (as previously hinted) it stuck us in an endless loop because in order to download the app, you need the mac app store, and in order to get the mac app store, you need 10.6+ ($30, btw, which is stupid since it'd a service pack, and Microsoft gives those out for free), but in order to download and purchase 10.6 you need the mac app store which requires 10.6+. End result, she'll probably have to take an afternoon off to go to the apple store to see if they can install a newer OS iteration for her just so it is done right.
Fun addendum: we tried plugging in my sister's ipod touch to the same laptop to move some music onto it, and it said it needed a newer version of itunes to work with it, which put us in the same dilemna!

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:48 2

40. McLTE (Posts: 874; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


THIS is why I HATE Apple! Well, one reason anyway. I swear, they try to make things as hard as possible.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:08 2

47. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


FUD, much? I have downloaded programs from outside the Mac App Store on OSX 10.9 Mavericks. You need to go into settings and select "Install from Anywhere."

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 15:49

85. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


I love it when people don't know how to use the technology they own and instead blame the manufacturer for their inability to learn. The first thing I do with any electronic device or app is go into the settings and change it to how I want, I cant understand why anyone wouldn't...

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 16:43

86. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


The computer has 10.5, not 10.9.

I'm not sure it would make a difference whether we had the "install from anywhere" enabled, as the computer is telling us the only way to get the software is to get the mac app store, and the only place I'd trust to get the software is from there (Microsoft and Nokia don't offer the Nokia Phone Connector for mac program themselves, their sites redirect to the mac app store)

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:59 1

59. quakan (Posts: 1380; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


"apple doesn't allow direct download of drivers or software"

Come back when you or your mother learn how to use a Mac, until then spare us with the ignorance.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 16:45

88. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


The computer is telling us the only way to get the software is to get it through the mac app store, and the only place I'd trust to get the software is from there (Microsoft and Nokia don't offer the Nokia Phone Connector for mac program. If there is an alternative, it wasn't presented to the normal user. I'm a very advanced user (for Windows) and I didn't care to learn any other ways to get the program, or risk causing my mom any more headache with the POS by downloading things from outside the walled garden. Mac OS is already relatively insecure, why deliberately introduce programs from an unknown source?

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:15 5

30. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


You do realize that Motorola (1928) Samsung(1938) LG(1958) have been around A LOT LONGER than Apple right? I seriously doubt they're going to disappear over night.

So what is your point exactly?

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 12:40

65. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


But Motorola (1928) has been bought by Google (1998), and Nokia (1967) by Microsoft (1975). Even the oldest companies (Hostess, 1919) can go bust if they don't keep up with market demands or don't manage themselves well.

Longevity is not a guarantee of future success.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:34 1

35. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


What about iPod Touch 4th Gen owners? Device released last year (Nov 2012 I believe) and does NOT get iOS 7. So unless your idea of a long period if time is less than a year, I cannot agree with your comment. Also still have no idea how they will handle the iPhone 5 now that it has been discontinued. They can use that as their reason to no longer support the device just like the did with the Gen 4 iPod.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 12:49

69. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


The iPod touch 4th gen has been released more than 3 years ago. You're talking about the 5th gen which got the update

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:52 1

55. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)


hi, my ipod touch stuck with ios 4, and its just about 2-3 years since i bought it.
very long period huh.
now i put that junk in the bathroom as a clock, i cannot download any apps, its now just an mp3 player with metal back casing
no more apple products for me.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 20:06

96. rightcue805 (Posts: 55; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


are you serious? i had to call apple for my computer and they wanted to charge me like 50 bucks to even talk to me.. piss off long period support.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:32 19

13. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


"New is easy. Right is hard"
"New" is so easy that they still cant do it and "right" is so hard that they need to copy it from others.
iGenius

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:38 1

18. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Very well said. +1

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:17 2

32. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Bravo!!!

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