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Apple asks the court to add 6 more devices to Samsung patent suit, including Samsung GALAXY Note II

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Apple asks the court to add 6 more devices to Samsung patent suit, including Samsung GALAXY Note II
Both Apple and Samsung continue to ask the court to add devices to their respective patent infringement claims against each other, for their second patent trial set to start in March 2014. Recently, Samsung requested that the Apple iPhone 5 be added while Apple asked to include the Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1 tablet and the Samsung Galaxy S III. That was followed by Samsung's request to add the fourth-generation Apple iPad, the Apple iPad mini and the fifth-generation Apple iPod touch.

On Friday, Apple asked the court to include the Samsung Galaxy S III running Android 4.1, the Samsung GALAXY Note II and the Samsung GALAXY Tab 8.9 Wi-Fi with Android 4.0. The tablet had already been included, but only the version running Honeycomb.With the new update to Ice Cream Sandwich, Apple includes it here. It is a similar story with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 which also was recently updated to Android 4.0. Also requested by Apple for inclusion in the trial is the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro and the Samsung Galaxy S III mini which is now being sold in the U.S. by Amazon.

Apple is asking the court to let it add the Samsung Galaxy S III with Android 4.1 to its list of Samsung devices that allegedly infringe on Apple's patents

Apple is asking the court to let it add the Samsung Galaxy S III with Android 4.1 to its list of Samsung devices that allegedly infringe on Apple's patents

Apple shrewdly points out that all of these devices, or the software updates, were released after the launch of the fifth-generation Apple iPod touch. Thus, Apple says that if Judge Grewal allows the iPod touch to be included in the suit, there is no reason why Apple can't have these 6 devices added to its claim. Additionally, the court has previously said that it did not want to include the Android OS as part of the suit without an accompanying device attached. In the motion filed Friday by Apple, it says, "Apple does not seek to accuse the Jelly Bean or the Ice Cream Sandwich platforms operating on any Samsung device."  Apple quotes Samsung's website in the motion, which says that the Korean based tech titan "is in close communication with both Google and [its] carrier partners to upgrade devices to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean as quickly and as smoothly as possible." Add to that the Samsung TouchWiz UI which runs on top of Android, and Apple felt that it should not leave out devices getting updated to a new OS build.

With the start of this trial about 16 months away, there will be attempts to negotiate a peace, either forced upon the two rivals by the court or done using their own free will. The face of the trial will be much different by the time we hear Opening Statements. For example, we could be looking forward to the Samsung Galaxy S V and the Apple iPhone 6S when the gavel drops on patent trial two between Apple and Samsung, and some of the current devices being added to each side's claims will seem older and possibly outdated when the new trial gets started.

source: FOSSPatents

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posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:27 42

1. AhmadAlsayegh (Posts: 253; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)


Screw them both, i really got tired of their s**t

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:31 26

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1337; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


its beyond getting old. Both are just acting like spoiled children now.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 09:25 3

34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3211; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


None of this would have occurred if Samsung hadn't copied apple.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 09:31 40

36. tedkord (Posts: 4259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


And we wouldn't have an iPhone if Apple hadn't copied Palm, WinMo and RIM. So?

We wouldn't have grids of icons at all if Apple hadn't copied Xerox PARC.

The point which you will refuse to see is that Samsung did nothing more than what Apple has done with every product they've released - stood on the shoulders of giants, and improved on existing designs.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:21 6

46. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Both of em r acting like me & my stupid sister, cuz both us fight 24/7, WITHOUT A FREAKIN BREAK!!!!
IT'S SOOOOO AGGRAVATING!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 14:36 2

69. PAPINYC (Posts: 2177; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


How can you compare a Galaxy Note II and Samsung to your st*p*d sister; a Galaxy Note II is useful and has a big @$$ screen!

Not to mention, it's expandable and has 4G (unless you're Sprint); bet your st*p*d sister is still kickin' it to Edge!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:31 17

48. PAPINYC (Posts: 2177; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


How is the Galaxy Note II copying Apple; the Galaxy Note II anniHiLates anything incomplete Apple puts out. I'm getting my G-Note II bright and early and you, Apple or judge lucy Ho can't stop me; an earthquake couldn't stop me. Bite me Apple!!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 11:11 1

50. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Looks like Samsung's taking a bite outta Apple as well :P

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 11:21 10

51. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Dude get your head out of yur a$$! I am a Sammy fan but I will give you an unbiased opinion....that means an opinion that doesn't come out of one's a$$...unlike yours!

First do the two companies realize that by the time this trial takes place these devices would have been two years old and obsolete? So banning them wont do either any harm!

Secondly this is too much all I see is both companies demanding every device made by the other to be added to the lawsuit...its ridiculous! What do they hope to achieve shutting the other down by banning all its products....its not going to happen...period!

Lastly if I am not wrong all this patent lawsuit crap was started by Apple...seems to me like a case of a spoilt brat biting off more than he could chew! Now all they do is waste their time on lawsuits and no innovation...its evident in the iPhone 5 which is an epic fail even by sales numbers.
I wish all companies Apple and Sammy included make awesome products so the customer has a choice and they push each other even harder to make better products instead of better lawsuits!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 12:13 8

56. xfire99 (Posts: 408; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


None of this would happen if Apple didnt exist. Like Apple dont copy others.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 13:45 5

63. -box- (Posts: 3707; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Apple wouldn't exist without copying. Xerox PARC was the "inspiration" for the original Macintosh. Without it, apple would have gone the way most other software and hardware makers of the same era went: under.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 12:17 4

57. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


Samsung didn't copy APPLE tell apple stop using samsung for all of their components, the battery , the chip, the UI The only thing that is rightfully apple's is the GOT DANG SOFTWARE!!!

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 07:42

83. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


Apple has already stopped buying hardware from samsung.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 11:10

94. arjay225 (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)


*Samsung stopped supplying to Apple. They are now using Sharp to build their own products.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 17:21 2

74. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


This happened cause Apple stole and took designs from Sony!™®©

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 18:08

78. doejon (Posts: 317; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


oh man other copied 1:1 and had no success

its not only the design or this s**tty minor software gimmiks that even exist bevor apple use it in their s**tty (sh)I(t)phone.. i bet that apple will lost this "law-case" and sammy will not even pay 1 penny!
u will see

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:03

92. dilse (Posts: 24; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


Stop Litigations start innovations....

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 10:37

88. JC557 (Posts: 823; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


How is it possible that people fail to see it was Apple that started this "Thermonuclear" war?

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 20:49

90. pliskin1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Well, Steve Jobs said he was going thermonuclear war on Android, but all these suits are against Samsung.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:34 7

29. wendygarett (unregistered)


That's why you shouldn't spent too much money to them, they're just invest on lawsuit as an advertising, in order to grow the hatred and boost the sales each other :)

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 16:40

73. Topcat488 (Posts: 1108; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Thumbs up dude... This s**t doesn't effect us, we'll enjoy their products and they'll get paid... If they want to give all that money to Lawyers? Like Alan pointed out in the article above...

"For example, we could be looking forward to the Samsung Galaxy S V and the Apple iPhone 6S when the gavel drops on patent trial".
@AhmadAlsayegh

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 22:00

81. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5527; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Let both of them add all of the other party's products to the list of infringing products. Then there will be an overall judgement and we can get on with our respective lives.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:04

93. dilse (Posts: 24; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


stop litigations start innovations....

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:30 20

2. sid07desai (Posts: 242; Member since: 03 May 2012)


It's actually Apple's default agenda nowadays.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:35 16

4. tedkord (Posts: 4259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


F them both.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:39 1

5. byazatt (Posts: 159; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Boring, rumours on galaxy so iv or iPhone 5S someone?

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:18 4

44. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Go to hell, byzatt!!!!!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:46 2

6. jibraihimi (Posts: 644; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


They should abolish patent laws, because it's getting absurd day by day............

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:51 28

8. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5425; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


And who started this absurd? Wasn't it Apple?

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:09 6

18. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


If world war 3 happened, would it matter who started it? No, cuz everyone loses regardless. Grow up.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:52 13

31. tedkord (Posts: 4259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It does matter, because in most instances there is one side that won't stop even if the other does. Now, if Samsung were to drop all their suits against Apple and even proclaim that Apple can use all their IP free, do you believe for even a second Apple would reciprocate. I believe they would file more suits that same day. 

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:33 2

49. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I think ur wrong Ted. Sammy would have an agreement in writing, and recording before they'd agree to that. Think about what u just said bro.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 12:54

59. tedkord (Posts: 4259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I know that Sammy wouldn't just drop everything. I said if. My point was IF that happened, Apple would just sue more. IF the reverse happened, and Apple dropped all suits, I believe Samsung would also.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 12:56 1

60. tedkord (Posts: 4259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


To add, the reason why it world happen this way is because Samsung are suing as a defense. Apple are suing to eliminate competition and stifle innovation.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 13:24

62. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5425; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"If world war 3 happened, would it matter who started it?"

Yes, it is! Grow up!

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 10:38 1

89. JC557 (Posts: 823; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


It matters because the one who started it most likely won't back down and will go even further if everyone submitted to the aggressor.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:50 20

7. husfus (Posts: 62; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)


Next: apple asked court to add samsung tv, fridge, laptop to patent suit. Moral: greed never ends

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:08 14

15. lyndon420 (Posts: 1686; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


These are all rectangles. Apple apparently owns the rectangle.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:03 4

39. raphael007 (Posts: 43; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


I feel bad for the schools, I wonder if I will get a fee because my kids are learning about rectangle shapes in school. Hopefully the school they will attend will have settled with Apple by then

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:20 2

24. joey_sfb (Posts: 2499; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I am sure Samsung TV has icon somewhere buried in the system menu that look like apple icons.

Do include their TV, fridge, washing machines, oven, electric toothbrush, AA/AAA batterys, SSD, HDD DVD, Blueray player, HiFI audio system, printers and the list goes on.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:54 5

9. networkdood (Posts: 6244; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


'Litigate, do not innovate'

~ APPLE

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 09:11 2

33. joey_sfb (Posts: 2499; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Apple clearly placed priority on litigate, their engineers, their CEO, their executives going in and out of court room. Everyone is only given 24 hours regardless of how much money you made. Google avoid litigate to innovate and the result speak for itself.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:55 4

10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Honestly, all of this needs to stop. Not only does it look bad on both their parts, but it hurts the consumers too...

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:56 2

11. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


Both the tech masters are fighting....

Both are copy cats.. ...learn from Nokia..they are ready to die...but make their own things....

Behaving like Born babies....

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 13:49 1

64. -box- (Posts: 3707; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Agree with emulating Nokia, but disagree with their being "ready to die". They're fighting tooth and nail to stay alive, and doing a fine job of it.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:57 6

12. drnggaj33 (Posts: 127; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)


apple just wants to take everyone to court ...they're just trying to get more money off the companys by sitting on they're asses ....me and my girl hate apple over priced for tablets and phones ....when her sam s3 and my nexus still do more then the iphones 4 ,4s,5 im just saying ....plus pulling the plug on the chips and battery from sam they're hardwear gonna sux now

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:58 2

13. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Whenever I see the words, Apple + Samsung + Patent + Lawsuit = I about to get sick!

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 07:58 4

14. ilia1986 (unregistered)


You fight fire with fire. Samsung will bury Apple in the ground and promptly stomp all over it.

Ha kam lehorgecha - hashkem lehorgo - Kill the one who rises to kill you - before he does so.

This is WAR, gentlemen. Forced upon us by Apple's greed for money and control.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:11 1

21. lyndon420 (Posts: 1686; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Was this quote taken from the Quran?

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:27 3

25. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Nope. From the bible.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:13 3

22. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude please shutup. Iran/Iraq was war. The war in Afghanistan is a war. This is two greedy companies with apple seemingly the greedier of the two suing each other. Grow up man.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:31 1

26. ilia1986 (unregistered)


You think that this is just about money? What about consumer choice? Apple BANNED the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the Galaxy nexus.

This isn't just about money. This is about the nature of the OSs which will power our mobile devices - a closed OS or an open OS. Tyranny vs Freedom when it comes to end user control.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:13

43. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude wether u know it or not I agree with u bro. When your not being a sensationalist u actually make some of the best points I've read. Shouldn't have told u to shutup, and I apologize for that. However this is hardly a war bro, we the consumer do suffer from this cuz apple has to,scramble for components, and Sammy is slowly losing their biggest client. No one wins in this...once again my apologies for telling u to shutup.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 11:26 1

53. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Well this isn't obviously a war in the traditional sense. Also - in any war - there are no winners either.

Regardless - this IS a conflict between Apple and Samsung - and the outcome of this conflict WILL affect the nature of our mobile devices in the future, if not outright set it completely.

And it's ok, darkkjedii :)

Btw I think that I finally figured out why am I so angry with Apple on a personal level. They made a buttery smooth OS with very little problems and crashes which ran on gorgeous looking hardware.

BUT

They had to completely screw it all up due to their insane obsession over control and closed systems.

It's like you have the most beautiful-looking women, top model of 2012, but she is as dumb as a rubber duck.

It's simply infuriating.

Cheers. :D

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 13:59 2

66. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Wowwww lol that was one helluva analogy but understood and agreed

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:08 1

16. mercorp (Posts: 967; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


Again.....

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:09 2

17. ronjr123 (Posts: 60; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


They are behaving more like a spoiled rich couple fighting over the last piece of silver.

At one time, before Samsung started making quality android handsets, this was a great great relationship for the both of them. Samsung provided the quality of parts that Apple was demanding. Although I am sure the monetary arrangement was in Apples favor. Like most good INNOVATIVE companies, Samsung said to themselves, "we can make our own and keep more of the profits". And they did, much too Apple's dislike.

What happened next was the Galaxy S. For its time, it was a viable alternative to Apple. Behind the scenes Steve Jobs was livid! How dare they! We (Apple) let them ,make our products then they screw us like this! How dare they use that "freeware" of a platform. This is about the time of his "going thermo-nuclear on their ass" statement.

From this point on, the relationship has gotten more and more distraught. I really believe Apple blames Samsung for giving credibility to the Android platform. Prior to Samsung's involvement it was just really little old Motorola, HTC, and Verizon adopting it. They felt they weren't a threat. Once Samsung got into the ring with the Galaxy S, only then did all the major carriers begin to take it seriously. I am speaking of US carriers of course.

The rest of the story we know already. The court battles ensued. The best and only course of action left, is the total disolvement of the business relationship. In the long run I think this will fair better for Samsung then Apple, but this has yet to play out. Let the soap opera continue......

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 13:57

65. -box- (Posts: 3707; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Technically T-Mobile and HTC had the Android platform before Verizon with the G1. Motorola, the Droid label, and Verizon made it popular and the "cool" alternative that did more.

Otherwise, yes.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:10 2

19. lyndon420 (Posts: 1686; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


This is getting very ridiculous. Although I applaud Sammy for trying to stand up to the tyrant.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:10

20. darkkjedii (Posts: 10071; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


This is getting tired man.

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