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Apple asks ITC to add newer Samsung models to import ban

0. phoneArena 16 Oct 2013, 15:34 posted on

Earlier this month, we told you that because the President failed to veto an ITC based import ban, certain older Samsung models cannot be shipped into the U.S. Korean based Samsung still has one last hope, which is an appeal it filed in court; the ITC has found that Samsung was guilty of infringing on a pair of Apple's patents...

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posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:35 29

1. darkkjedii (Posts: 10102; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


C'mon apple really?... I mean reallyyyyyyyyyy?

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:58

8. techaman (unregistered)


i know what the hell the president said ok i will allow the apple 4 and 4s to veto the ban so you can sell it but apple seen the new list of phones still top sellers and said no no no not fare i wan to be on top. samsung should say f you and stop making all the things for there phones and let them collapse.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:00

9. techaman (unregistered)


they are just getting so paranoid since steve is not there to help them. when will we see the end of this and just let phones come out i mean apple and all others use samsungs 3g patent as a frand patent

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:18 14

12. Shatter (Posts: 1967; Member since: 29 May 2013)


If Samsung dropped Apple as a partner the iphone would die.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:25 2

15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3874; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I don't think so. Maybe a year or two ago, yeah, but not now. They main thing that Samsung makes for the iPhone that couldn't be replaced was the processor, but now that they have TSMC as a partner they won't be using Samsung for the A8 chip.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:28 1

16. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That's what people were saying about the A7.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:33 2

17. Shatter (Posts: 1967; Member since: 29 May 2013)


They also make the RAM and flash storage as 2 other main parts.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:40

20. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3874; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Flash storage is replaceable, not sure about RAM though, I don't know any other manufacturers that make RAM for mobile devices, though I'm sure there are some.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:52

35. ddeath (Posts: 154; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


Are you from US? If so, you don't know that Micron, a US company from Idaho Boise, is the 2nd largest memory supplier in the world, which also supplies mobile ram.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:37

18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3874; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


They did say that originally, but it wasn't until mid-2013 did Apple actually make a deal with TSMC, way too late to make the A7 chip, now they actually have the time.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:43

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 10102; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


How so?

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:15 5

32. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1190; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I think he means that at the moment Apple needs Samsung due to their ability to crank out a ton of chips in short order. While they do have an agreement with TSMC, so far every time that Apple has tired to go with another supplier for their components, they end up back with Samsung. Look what happened when they tried to go with another display supplier. They were gonna have both LG and Sharp handle their displays (for one of the iPads I believe) and both ran into issues (one had QC issues and the other couldn't keep up with the demand). Love 'em or hate 'em, Samsung can crank out a massive amount of components with a negligible amount of quality issues. Time will tell if this partnership with TSMC will yield Apple the results they want.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 20:44

39. darkkjedii (Posts: 10102; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Now that makes sense. +1

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:25 11

25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7354; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I'm really getting tired of Apple.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:34 2

26. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1551; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Seriously..what the hell

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 19:05 5

38. joey_sfb (Posts: 2547; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Apple is really ridiculous they are a new mobile player and yet play the disruptive ploy start suing everyone that any court would have and best of all their supplier that supply 80% of the device components. Yes, earlier Samsung design might resemble iPhone but that how every one is doing their business improve and compete with newer and better devices in a rapid pace till Apple start dragging the court system into their business model.

And after 5 year i finally know why they refuse to improve their design on a yearly basis like what every other manufacturer is doing. They cling on to what work for them and reuse their design.

Refuse to pay for a standard 3G license like everyone else.

Charge an exorbitant price for iPhone.

The only saving grace is each and every country are waking up to their business tactic of bending the legal system to do their bidding.

Like every bad situation, the good side is Samsung is make stronger and people like me has started to notice them. I am sure there are ex-Apple fans that feel the same as me stop buying into Apple and move to their competitors instead.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 21:01

40. willard12 (Posts: 699; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


If only you could lead Mxy down this path.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 22:00 1

41. joey_sfb (Posts: 2547; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


there a saying from where I am from that, if Jesus, Prophet Muhammad and Buddha can't convince everyone who am I to even try..hehehe!

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:41 2

2. eN16HTMAR3 (Posts: 98; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


Anything they have to do to kep that NO.1 spot. I hope that Google goes after Apple for all the new improvments/ features in iOS 7 beings they are all available on Android and have been for quite some time.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:43 2

28. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


NO. 2 spot.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:46

3. silencer271 (Posts: 149; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


lol apple and samsung are just like there sheep.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:02 4

10. techaman (unregistered)


i guess you have a windows phone and since you have no apps and can only make phone calls and take pics you have to jump into other chats. windows people are like there cows slow and old.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:21

24. Sauce (unregistered)


Lmao +1000

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:47

4. donfem (Posts: 515; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


All about stiffling the main problem. Epic fail.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:47 11

5. Doakie (Posts: 1099; Member since: 06 May 2009)


I freaking hate Apple.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:48 3

6. eN16HTMAR3 (Posts: 98; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


What Samsung devices are they trying to add to the ban as well? That is kinda of a important aspect to this story. Hence Samsung phones like the Droid Charge and other of that nature wont make a impact beings they are not being manufactured aymore. Now, if they are trying to ban the Note series wether its the two or three, the S4, S3, etc. Then we have a issue.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:04

11. techaman (unregistered)


it is the note 2 next will be my gs3 god help them if they come after my gs3. the only phone i have had for 2 years and would still keep it for another 2 years no problem, i mean i got 2 gig ram its all good.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:24

13. Shatter (Posts: 1967; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Why do people think ram helps devices so much? Know the performance difference between a PC with 16GB of ram and 64GB of ram? None. No normal user will use more than around 8GB of ram max right now. On android no device needs more than 2GB right now, its getting close though to Samsung put 3GB in the Note 3 for some future proofing.

What matters way more: CPU, GPU, read/write speed, latency. People always upgrade their ram to "Speed up their PC" after 8GB the benefit is next to nothing unless you are doing stuff like encoding and rendering.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:46 2

29. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Ram does speed up a PC. More ram = fewer trips to the disk, which is inherently slower. It also allows for more multitasking.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:48

31. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


As far as Apple is concerned, all Samsung phones should be banned. Competition scares them.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 15:52 2

7. SugarShockFrantic (Posts: 71; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


typical

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:24

14. Bootutu (Posts: 184; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Jeeeezus!!!

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 16:37

19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


No new lawsuits, just keep tacking onto the old ones and keep them active. What's the difference if the outcome is the same?

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:03 4

22. GeekMovement (Posts: 1499; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


Pretty obvious that Apple wants to cut competition in the market.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:35

27. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1551; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


That's pretty much their game these days. I have been disappointed with them lately.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:05 6

23. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6129; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Apple please stop crying like a lil girl. You already damage your image. Plus the Gov't is shutdown.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 17:47 2

30. twens (Posts: 517; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I like what Apple is doing and American government as a whole. They think they are pulling samsung down but instead they are making Sammy strong. Sammy has evolved and matured over the years if you are a good observer of their tech. Each year they drastically improve on every single thing. The more Apple sues Sammy the more they will find ways and means of incorporating new tech into their phones to sway people away from iPhone. The galaxies are selling and they are selling like hot cakes. The note 3 is a phone Apple will wish to build but they simple can't. It is years and years ahead of every single iPhone including the prototypes in their labs. F**K apple in their rotten stupid Ass.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:23 1

33. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1190; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Wouldn't they have to have a completely different trial to determine if these models infringe on patents? It's not like they can win a case and say "Oh, by the way, can we throw these newer devices on as well?" And it kinda sounds like they want the court to revisit the patents that were already ruled on. They must be the only company I know that treats a win like a loss. If this keeps up what competitor won't have a phone that they believe infringes on their IP? Also, why aren't they asking to be monetarily compensated for the infringement? If this isn't trying to set the market using the courts I don't know what is.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:50 1

34. Trismegistus (Posts: 32; Member since: 21 Aug 2013)


This just hammers in why I can't in good conscience purchase Apple products. I'm a little leery of Samsung's litigious nature as well, but nobody has gone to the degree that Apple is.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:53 2

36. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


Apple is losing customers. Thats why they are acting like the playground bully and using the court system to get their way instead of beating them outright like Samsung is doing to them. I don't like how Apple is doing business and it makes me not want anything to do with their products.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 18:56 3

37. ddeath (Posts: 154; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


Besides gold plating their products and make it appealing to gold lovers, not much interesting stuff has been coming out from them since iPhone 4.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 22:56 1

42. ilia1986 (unregistered)


And this is why apple must be destroyed.

posted on 16 Oct 2013, 23:35

43. Topcat488 (Posts: 1110; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Apple serves the "stockholders & corporations",,, their people too.

Even though Samsung employs more Americans than Apple does!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 03:21 2

44. marekzy (Posts: 4; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)


Don't buy apple - it simple

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 07:46 1

45. xfire99 (Posts: 410; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


The more u want, the more u have to lose later!
Sooner or later, peoples will get tired o that Apple doing right now and they will lose more then gain by keep suing.
Peoples will thinks: "why ban Samsungs phones? Are they better then Iphones?"

Apple are making free commercial for Sammy and just wait and see the show.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 16:09

48. rusticguy (Posts: 2818; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Last 1 billion dollar commercial ... Apple is yet to get even a cent.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 09:47 1

46. Champion (Posts: 12; Member since: 14 Oct 2013)


Because apple iphone 5c sales are poor..

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 16:08

47. rusticguy (Posts: 2818; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Expected. As 5C fails Samsung will be dragged to court. Old Apple technique which now is stale and stinks. To make it worse the govt protects them and then tries to educate the world on "democracy" ... prevalent double standards.

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 11:54

49. rabidhunter (Posts: 90; Member since: 05 Jul 2013)


Go home Apple, you're drunk.

Fix ios7 crashes, security bugs, BSOD, and accelerometer issue. In other words, clean your own house first.

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