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Apple applies for patent on wireless charging system

0. phoneArena 02 Dec 2012, 14:07 posted on

Apple envisions a world with near-field magnetic resonance charging electronic devices up to a yard away based on a recent patent application made by the Cupertino based firm; on the other hand, interference from such signals could destroy credit cards and other magnetic storage...

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posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:11 36

1. sorcio46 (Posts: 402; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


1) And the don't have even a SINGLE iDevice with that feature, while the others manufacturers have it in some devices.
2) How they succeeded in patenting things that are available in the market?

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:21 29

2. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


It doesn't take a genius to figure out pretty much any blatantly senseless claims being submitted by Apple to the USPTO will get approved no question asked.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:31 39

6. sorcio46 (Posts: 402; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


USPTO should be called
APDAS (Apple Patents database & approval system)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:40 1

89. joey_sfb (Posts: 3006; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Their patents system is seriously flaw. A simple drawing is all it take to sue for a billion dollars. This model will encourage the rich to invest in patents rather then real products.

How will that benefit the U.S economy. Patents can't be export oversea to earn revenue.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:02 1

91. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Instead of making a book about Apple 4 dummies, the dummies authors should write a book titled Apple is a Dummies!!!!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:39 13

22. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1087; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


I mean is this for real???!!!!!!
Oh man the USPTO is too bi-assed (Apple's a$$ and USPTO's a$$ being sown together!) towards Apple just because its an American company!
If this goes on then other manufacturers will just stop shipping devices to the US and then Apple can have all the market to itself and create an absolute monopoly...bunch of jerks!

Bloody they dont have any innovations yet they file for patents on other's innovations and the USPTO approves....shamless case of Money can buy anything...in this case patents for Apple!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:47 4

26. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Bro apples patent is on a truly wireless system involving a kinda magnetic bubble. The wireless charging we currently have isn't actually wireless. It only creates a middle man, which can stop the charging process when u get a call if u pick the phone up. Apples would continue to charge as long as ur n a certain proximity. I had the palm pre, back when I hated Bluetooth, and speaker phones. Every time I got a call I picked it up off the charging dock, and as a result it was never fully charged. The current wireless charging still requires a wire/cord so it isn't truly wireless. I'm with u in this patent crap though believe me I am.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:56 19

28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"The wireless charging we currently have isn't actually wireless."

Wrong! It is wireless.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:57

29. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


No it's not...it's plugged into a wall dude, And the device has to be connected to the port

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:03 17

30. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Dos phone and charging dock is somehow physically connected together with any wires or connectors? NO! And thats mean it is wireless!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:06

31. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


If it uses a wire/cord then it's wired not wireless

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:13 14

33. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Power between charging dock and phone is transferred wirelessly where do you see any wires or physical connectors between charging dock and Nokia Lumia 920 ???

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 03:57 1

100. therealestmc (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


Actually, you are right. What Apple is patenting is contact free/wireless charging, which is different that what is currently available.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:16 8

35. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Riiight.

In that event, cell phones aren't wireless. After all, the tower is connected to the rest of the Internet over ethernet or fiber.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:20

36. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Not talking about cell phones. Talking about wireless chargers

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:47 2

81. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


the base is connected to the plug...the phone being charged is wirleless as no cable or ANYTHING goes into the phone to charge it hence WIRELESS

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:40 8

93. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


then your wireless internet connection is not actually wireless, because it is still connected to cables across the ocean..

your logic must be given a high five..
on the face..
with a table..

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 00:08 1

94. xfire99 (Posts: 544; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


Who is right? The companys that release it, whole world and read onhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging

It isnt called wireless charging for nothing dude. Also u really think Apples that u call real wireless, dont need a power cord connect to the wall outlet too? The power just comes from heaven, blessed by Apple to theirs believers (like u) and yours God have given u all true wireless power....

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 05:33

103. Adithya7184 (Posts: 316; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)


do you remember Sony MW600 bluetooth headset. it also has wires but still it is called wireless Bluetooth headset...this is just an example...:-)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:09 8

32. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"No it's not...it's plugged into a wall dude..."

Are you kidding? Of course charging dock should be connected to something, energy doesn't come from nowhere just like that...

"And the device has to be connected to the port..."

Phone with charging dock is not connected with any wires or other physical connectors.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:15

34. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Plugged into wall = wired

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:25 10

39. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Plugged into wall = wired"

Of course charging dock should be connected to something, energy doesn't come from nowhere just like that but between charging dock and phone there is no wires or connectors and that's mean that power is transferred wirelessly. For some reasons you are unable to understand that or you just trolling?

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:37 1

43. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


No I understand perfectly, and I'm not trolling ur just mad. The current system of wireless charging isn't actually wireless, PA did an article on it some time back. Go look it up n PA's search bar. Apples would actually be wireless, based on its ability to charge from a certain proximity,ie the charger on the coffee table, and the phone on the couch as long as the device is n range. U wouldn't need to physically have it sitting n direct contact with the quote unquote wireless charger.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:50 7

49. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


We were talking not about efficient distance between charger and phone! We had debates about it is wireless or not! It is doesn't matter it is one meter or few millimeters but it is wireless!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:54 4

51. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"U wouldn't need to physically have it sitting n direct contact with the quote unquote wireless charger."

Actually you can lift your device from charger and hold it away in few millimeters. The bigger distance between charger and phone means less efficient energy transfer but that doesn't change the fact that it is wireless charging!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:36 2

88. uliuli80 (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Oct 2012)


Wow, don't ever start a conversation with a person that refers to you as "bro". They have a brain the size of a pea.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:11

78. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


There's a fake game on google play ... Charge your cell phone from WIFI signal ... perhaps someone fed that idea ... :)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:30 4

41. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Apple's "energy spreading" part also will be connected with wires to an power source!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:35 4

42. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


So, you think apple system will auto generate power by itself? Are you serious? It will always be wired to a plug!!! The difference is only it doesn't need to be on the mat, it can be next to it, and you can probably pick up calls and keep it charging, just don't take cards on your pocket or they will be wiped.

(Hey, maybe they will adapt some windmill blades to generate clean free energy and keep the plug away lolol)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:39 1

44. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That last part was funny as heck. Good one, good to see some one with a sense of humor on here.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:47 3

45. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


relax bro, even Apple's wirless power utilization should be connected to a plug, which need WIRES.

in the case you are arguing on, then electric generators should send electricity wireless to your house, so u can use Apple's wirless charger in order to recharge your phone wireless, so good luck with that lol

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:02 1

86. jroc74 (Posts: 5009; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I take it a wireless router isnt really wireless then.... My TV is plugged into a wall, can connect to my ....wireless router.

This is one of those times I cant agree with ya...

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:34

92. joey_sfb (Posts: 3006; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Now i know how made its billion. Apple is profiting from the mentally challenged.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:58 4

53. freebee269 (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


the lumia 920 is not "connected to a port" and it has wireless charging. all you do is set the phone on top of the charging pad. no wire is involved in the connection of the phone to the pad. the pad has to be plugged into the wall but then again if it's not then where is the charge going to come from? i couldnt tell if your comments were serious or you were just trolling. but after readong your comments after this one its obvious you are just trolling.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:01 5

56. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't think he is trolling, I think that he is for some reasons unable to understand all this.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:41 2

68. gustavoace (Posts: 101; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


but you dont need wires to charge your phone... Wireless... A Wireless mouse is just like that.. you have your USB plug connected to the MB...

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 18:49

75. doejon (Posts: 358; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


oh and a wall is a wire?

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:25 7

40. tedkord (Posts: 4975; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


But let's call this what it is - a tactic to keep others from developing it. Apple have no intention of developing this (that would require research dollars). They're just making sure their lawsuit futures are well stocked.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:48

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Uhhh that's what they should do. Patent it so its theirs should they decide to do it. Companies do this all the time, not just apple dude. Stop hating, cuz if google, or micro soft came up with this, you'd have no issue with it

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:33 3

67. tedkord (Posts: 4975; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Google wouldn't patent it, sit on it, then try to ban anyone who develops anything even remotely similar. But then, if Google applied for a patent, they're actively developing it.

Apple brainstorms any possible direction for tech, scribbles a sketch on a napkin, and applies fora patent. Then they wait for someone else to actually do the work to develop it and overcome the problems, and sue.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:48 1

46. -box- (Posts: 3825; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


How is it not wireless?!?!?!! Place phone on pad, do not plug any cable (wire) into phone, phone charges. OMGWTFROFLCOPTER IT CHARGES WIRELESSLY!

That said, I like the idea of multiple devices charging within a set field, but EMI would have to be controlled from not only a data protection standpoint, but also health safety and environmental also as well.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:49

48. darkkjedii (Posts: 11999; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Plug charger into wall. Hmmmmm wire hmmmmm

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:55 6

52. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


whatever u been smoking, give me some :P

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:01 2

55. freebee269 (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


so when apple's new patent comes out and they actually start selling the device and the device needs to be plugged into the wall, will that not be wireless also? or will you then say it's wireless? i'm thinking you will. good job troll.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:18 7

61. JC557 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Wow, so Apple has developed a new tech that can pull energy/ electricity from anywhere, even from your ass?

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 04:39

101. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1087; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Long time no see mate :)

You know what my beef with Apple is about...its good tech and all wireless bubble and everything and honestly I wouldnt stop from buying an Apple phone IF....

For once I would hear less news of patenting coz frankly its become dull now (all the cases and trials) and secondly I would like to see deliver on their past image when they actuaally revolutionized thinggs not incrementally but overhauled the system...thats the Apple i liked not what I see now....I mean they sure they can patent what they like but seriously you dont see anyone else patenting the current mat-style wireless charging or anything else like the S-Pen or Sony's White Magic or LGs homescreen zoom tech or anything else coz yeah sure they're innovstive but please companies have to stop moving forward bu cutting off the competition's legs but rather should move forward by outcompeting each other...just saying

I had an iPod classic once...but that was in another lifetime

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:00

90. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


And that is why Apple is the most selfish, dumb, stupid, wanna-be company of all time.
U DUMBASSES DON'T EVEN HAVE A DEVICE WITH THAT KIND OF TECH, WHY EVEN THINK ABOUT PATENING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope ur company burns down :)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:49 5

11. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 (Posts: 159; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


not just this 99.9 % of apple patenting cases are not applied in any idevice

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:12

16. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


your argument that apple should have it in products is stupid... colleges and research institutions do not make products, yet they patent their technology and do not always give it out..

there is no one with this type of non-cord charging-- please show me an example

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:31 1

19. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


he probably meant wireless charging pads for Energizer, and other battery companies and the Nokia Lumia 920.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:39 1

80. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


none of those are similar to this.. this is an "aura" for charging... not a pad or anything

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 01:10

95. devilfisch (Posts: 35; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


This patent application actually reminds me of WiTricity which has been developed already at MIT by the way.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:14

109. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


but has not been put into a product... which is what the original commentator said

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 02:23

110. devilfisch (Posts: 35; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


There might be no products but the technology already works and has been demonstrated since 2007. Patent noob speaking here but I believe that regardless of whether or not Apple has a prototype or product featuring the technology, I don't think they have a right to the patent as WiTricity already holds patents for the same concept and they have already developed working prototypes too.

But yes, you're right. I don't think anyone needs to release a product to apply for a patent. I think they need to show a working prototype though to apply for one but, like I said, I'm a patent noob so I'm probably wrong.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 00:26

111. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


im not arguing that apple should get the patent.. i was just responding to say that this has not been in the market before in a product

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 06:05

112. devilfisch (Posts: 35; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I see. Pardon me for the misunderstanding then. :)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:37

21. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


It is different technology than usual induction based power transfer. So no one at the moment are using it. At the moment it looks like a legit patent.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:39 1

23. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


i think its not patented yet, as the title says and the article says they have applied for it, am not defending Apple here, but their so called wireless power utilization differs from what Nokia, and other wirless charging pads have, it can recharge batteries -of whatever the thing is- within a higher range, so i think others can also benefit from it

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:19

63. JC557 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


It sounds like typical evolution of such tech though.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:41 3

24. AnTuTu (Posts: 892; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


Kick this rotten Apple..!!

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