Apple applies for patent on wireless charging system
0. phoneArena posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:07
Apple envisions a world with near-field magnetic resonance charging electronic devices up to a yard away based on a recent patent application made by the Cupertino based firm; on the other hand, interference from such signals could destroy credit cards and other magnetic storage...
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1. sorcio46 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:11 36 2
1) And the don't have even a SINGLE iDevice with that feature, while the others manufacturers have it in some devices.
2) How they succeeded in patenting things that are available in the market?
2. Giggity posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:21 29 0
It doesn't take a genius to figure out pretty much any blatantly senseless claims being submitted by Apple to the USPTO will get approved no question asked.
6. sorcio46 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:31 39 0
USPTO should be called
APDAS (Apple Patents database & approval system)
89. joey_sfb posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:40 1 0
Their patents system is seriously flaw. A simple drawing is all it take to sue for a billion dollars. This model will encourage the rich to invest in patents rather then real products.
How will that benefit the U.S economy. Patents can't be export oversea to earn revenue.
91. Nadr1212 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:02 1 0
Instead of making a book about Apple 4 dummies, the dummies authors should write a book titled Apple is a Dummies!!!!
22. PhenomFaz posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:39 13 1
I mean is this for real???!!!!!!
Oh man the USPTO is too bi-assed (Apple's a$$ and USPTO's a$$ being sown together!) towards Apple just because its an American company!
If this goes on then other manufacturers will just stop shipping devices to the US and then Apple can have all the market to itself and create an absolute monopoly...bunch of jerks!
Bloody they dont have any innovations yet they file for patents on other's innovations and the USPTO approves....shamless case of Money can buy anything...in this case patents for Apple!
26. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:47 4 15
Bro apples patent is on a truly wireless system involving a kinda magnetic bubble. The wireless charging we currently have isn't actually wireless. It only creates a middle man, which can stop the charging process when u get a call if u pick the phone up. Apples would continue to charge as long as ur n a certain proximity. I had the palm pre, back when I hated Bluetooth, and speaker phones. Every time I got a call I picked it up off the charging dock, and as a result it was never fully charged. The current wireless charging still requires a wire/cord so it isn't truly wireless. I'm with u in this patent crap though believe me I am.
28. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:56 19 1
"The wireless charging we currently have isn't actually wireless."
Wrong! It is wireless.
29. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:57 0 17
No it's not...it's plugged into a wall dude, And the device has to be connected to the port
30. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:03 17 0
Dos phone and charging dock is somehow physically connected together with any wires or connectors? NO! And thats mean it is wireless!
31. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:06 0 18
If it uses a wire/cord then it's wired not wireless
33. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:13 14 0
Power between charging dock and phone is transferred wirelessly where do you see any wires or physical connectors between charging dock and Nokia Lumia 920 ???
100. therealestmc posted on 03 Dec 2012, 03:57 1 0
Actually, you are right. What Apple is patenting is contact free/wireless charging, which is different that what is currently available.
35. Zero0 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:16 8 0
In that event, cell phones aren't wireless. After all, the tower is connected to the rest of the Internet over ethernet or fiber.
36. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:20 0 16
Not talking about cell phones. Talking about wireless chargers
81. taz89 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:47 2 0
the base is connected to the plug...the phone being charged is wirleless as no cable or ANYTHING goes into the phone to charge it hence WIRELESS
93. bayusuputra posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:40 8 0
then your wireless internet connection is not actually wireless, because it is still connected to cables across the ocean..
your logic must be given a high five..
on the face..
with a table..
94. xfire99 posted on 03 Dec 2012, 00:08 1 0
Who is right? The companys that release it, whole world and read onhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I
It isnt called wireless charging for nothing dude. Also u really think Apples that u call real wireless, dont need a power cord connect to the wall outlet too? The power just comes from heaven, blessed by Apple to theirs believers (like u) and yours God have given u all true wireless power....
103. Adithya7184 posted on 03 Dec 2012, 05:33 0 0
do you remember Sony MW600 bluetooth headset. it also has wires but still it is called wireless Bluetooth headset...this is just an example...:-)
32. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:09 8 0
"No it's not...it's plugged into a wall dude..."
Are you kidding? Of course charging dock should be connected to something, energy doesn't come from nowhere just like that...
"And the device has to be connected to the port..."
Phone with charging dock is not connected with any wires or other physical connectors.
34. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:15 0 13
Plugged into wall = wired
39. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:25 10 0
"Plugged into wall = wired"
Of course charging dock should be connected to something, energy doesn't come from nowhere just like that but between charging dock and phone there is no wires or connectors and that's mean that power is transferred wirelessly. For some reasons you are unable to understand that or you just trolling?
43. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:37 1 10
No I understand perfectly, and I'm not trolling ur just mad. The current system of wireless charging isn't actually wireless, PA did an article on it some time back. Go look it up n PA's search bar. Apples would actually be wireless, based on its ability to charge from a certain proximity,ie the charger on the coffee table, and the phone on the couch as long as the device is n range. U wouldn't need to physically have it sitting n direct contact with the quote unquote wireless charger.
49. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:50 7 0
We were talking not about efficient distance between charger and phone! We had debates about it is wireless or not! It is doesn't matter it is one meter or few millimeters but it is wireless!
51. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:54 4 0
"U wouldn't need to physically have it sitting n direct contact with the quote unquote wireless charger."
Actually you can lift your device from charger and hold it away in few millimeters. The bigger distance between charger and phone means less efficient energy transfer but that doesn't change the fact that it is wireless charging!
88. uliuli80 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:36 2 0
Wow, don't ever start a conversation with a person that refers to you as "bro". They have a brain the size of a pea.
78. rusticguy posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:11 0 0
There's a fake game on google play ... Charge your cell phone from WIFI signal ... perhaps someone fed that idea ... :)
41. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:30 4 0
Apple's "energy spreading" part also will be connected with wires to an power source!
42. weinerslav posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:35 4 0
So, you think apple system will auto generate power by itself? Are you serious? It will always be wired to a plug!!! The difference is only it doesn't need to be on the mat, it can be next to it, and you can probably pick up calls and keep it charging, just don't take cards on your pocket or they will be wiped.
(Hey, maybe they will adapt some windmill blades to generate clean free energy and keep the plug away lolol)
44. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:39 1 4
That last part was funny as heck. Good one, good to see some one with a sense of humor on here.
45. asseek posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:47 3 0
relax bro, even Apple's wirless power utilization should be connected to a plug, which need WIRES.
in the case you are arguing on, then electric generators should send electricity wireless to your house, so u can use Apple's wirless charger in order to recharge your phone wireless, so good luck with that lol
86. jroc74 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 21:02 1 0
I take it a wireless router isnt really wireless then.... My TV is plugged into a wall, can connect to my ....wireless router.
This is one of those times I cant agree with ya...
92. joey_sfb posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:34 0 0
Now i know how made its billion. Apple is profiting from the mentally challenged.
53. freebee269 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:58 4 0
the lumia 920 is not "connected to a port" and it has wireless charging. all you do is set the phone on top of the charging pad. no wire is involved in the connection of the phone to the pad. the pad has to be plugged into the wall but then again if it's not then where is the charge going to come from? i couldnt tell if your comments were serious or you were just trolling. but after readong your comments after this one its obvious you are just trolling.
56. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:01 5 0
I don't think he is trolling, I think that he is for some reasons unable to understand all this.
68. gustavoace posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:41 2 0
but you dont need wires to charge your phone... Wireless... A Wireless mouse is just like that.. you have your USB plug connected to the MB...
75. doejon posted on 02 Dec 2012, 18:49 0 0
oh and a wall is a wire?
40. tedkord posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:25 7 0
But let's call this what it is - a tactic to keep others from developing it. Apple have no intention of developing this (that would require research dollars). They're just making sure their lawsuit futures are well stocked.
47. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:48 0 6
Uhhh that's what they should do. Patent it so its theirs should they decide to do it. Companies do this all the time, not just apple dude. Stop hating, cuz if google, or micro soft came up with this, you'd have no issue with it
67. tedkord posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:33 3 1
Google wouldn't patent it, sit on it, then try to ban anyone who develops anything even remotely similar. But then, if Google applied for a patent, they're actively developing it.
Apple brainstorms any possible direction for tech, scribbles a sketch on a napkin, and applies fora patent. Then they wait for someone else to actually do the work to develop it and overcome the problems, and sue.
46. -box- posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:48 1 1
How is it not wireless?!?!?!! Place phone on pad, do not plug any cable (wire) into phone, phone charges. OMGWTFROFLCOPTER IT CHARGES WIRELESSLY!
That said, I like the idea of multiple devices charging within a set field, but EMI would have to be controlled from not only a data protection standpoint, but also health safety and environmental also as well.
48. darkkjedii posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:49 0 4
Plug charger into wall. Hmmmmm wire hmmmmm
52. asseek posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:55 6 0
whatever u been smoking, give me some :P
55. freebee269 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:01 2 0
so when apple's new patent comes out and they actually start selling the device and the device needs to be plugged into the wall, will that not be wireless also? or will you then say it's wireless? i'm thinking you will. good job troll.
61. JC557 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:18 7 0
Wow, so Apple has developed a new tech that can pull energy/ electricity from anywhere, even from your ass?
101. PhenomFaz posted on 03 Dec 2012, 04:39 0 0
Long time no see mate :)
You know what my beef with Apple is about...its good tech and all wireless bubble and everything and honestly I wouldnt stop from buying an Apple phone IF....
For once I would hear less news of patenting coz frankly its become dull now (all the cases and trials) and secondly I would like to see deliver on their past image when they actuaally revolutionized thinggs not incrementally but overhauled the system...thats the Apple i liked not what I see now....I mean they sure they can patent what they like but seriously you dont see anyone else patenting the current mat-style wireless charging or anything else like the S-Pen or Sony's White Magic or LGs homescreen zoom tech or anything else coz yeah sure they're innovstive but please companies have to stop moving forward bu cutting off the competition's legs but rather should move forward by outcompeting each other...just saying
I had an iPod classic once...but that was in another lifetime
90. Nadr1212 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:00 0 0
And that is why Apple is the most selfish, dumb, stupid, wanna-be company of all time.
U DUMBASSES DON'T EVEN HAVE A DEVICE WITH THAT KIND OF TECH, WHY EVEN THINK ABOUT PATENING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope ur company burns down :)
11. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:49 5 0
not just this 99.9 % of apple patenting cases are not applied in any idevice
16. Lucas777 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:12 0 3
your argument that apple should have it in products is stupid... colleges and research institutions do not make products, yet they patent their technology and do not always give it out..
there is no one with this type of non-cord charging-- please show me an example
19. asseek posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:31 1 1
he probably meant wireless charging pads for Energizer, and other battery companies and the Nokia Lumia 920.
80. Lucas777 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:39 1 1
none of those are similar to this.. this is an "aura" for charging... not a pad or anything
95. devilfisch posted on 03 Dec 2012, 01:10 0 0
This patent application actually reminds me of WiTricity which has been developed already at MIT by the way.
109. Lucas777 posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:14 0 0
but has not been put into a product... which is what the original commentator said
110. devilfisch posted on 04 Dec 2012, 02:23 0 0
There might be no products but the technology already works and has been demonstrated since 2007. Patent noob speaking here but I believe that regardless of whether or not Apple has a prototype or product featuring the technology, I don't think they have a right to the patent as WiTricity already holds patents for the same concept and they have already developed working prototypes too.
But yes, you're right. I don't think anyone needs to release a product to apply for a patent. I think they need to show a working prototype though to apply for one but, like I said, I'm a patent noob so I'm probably wrong.
111. Lucas777 posted on 05 Dec 2012, 00:26 0 0
im not arguing that apple should get the patent.. i was just responding to say that this has not been in the market before in a product
112. devilfisch posted on 05 Dec 2012, 06:05 0 0
I see. Pardon me for the misunderstanding then. :)
21. PhoneArenaUser posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:37 0 0
It is different technology than usual induction based power transfer. So no one at the moment are using it. At the moment it looks like a legit patent.
23. asseek posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:39 1 0
i think its not patented yet, as the title says and the article says they have applied for it, am not defending Apple here, but their so called wireless power utilization differs from what Nokia, and other wirless charging pads have, it can recharge batteries -of whatever the thing is- within a higher range, so i think others can also benefit from it
63. JC557 posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:19 0 0
It sounds like typical evolution of such tech though.