Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2011, 13:42 posted on
Apple ushered its mobile operating system iOS in a new era today, announcing its fifth iteration, which brings along major updates like a revamped notification system, and widgets...
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134. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
And thats fine. They should take advantage of it.
its the Apple, iPhone fanboys they always wanna mention copying when it comes to their precious iPhone. It doesnt pay to be a fanboy...
Whats really funny is Jobs saying 2011 is the year of the copycats earlier this year...a great post on Engadget reminded folks of that....
7. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
excellent! now I wont have people telling me they dont have OTA and cloud services because they suck and its not worth it thats the future and I'm glad apple agreed :D these features make your smartphone a complete standalone device.... now if we can convince people that NFC is good for them too
8. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yeah, no mention of improving multitasking or widgets, or NFC. Maybe that'll all come next year.
And no iPhone announcement either. The iCloud was laughable; some added features over other cloud services, but the iTunes match feature was ridiculous. Just another example of how Apple wants to rule everything with an iron fist.
29. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So it's free and gives you a ton of storage and syncs automatically across devices, but it sucks? It's free and does way more than google's offering right now.
37. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Google's offerings are still in beta and we will probably see similar functionalities coming out. Mobile backup of everything is something Google already does, and whatever I can't back up over my Google account I can back up using *gasp!* MY INCLUDED SD CARD.
The iTunes match feature, which as I understand it, costs 25 bucks a year for the privilege of RE BUYING SONGS that you already have, is what's really stupid. I get it if there's situations like vette21man's, but I have plenty of music that doesn't need upgrading. And on my Android phone, all I need to do is sync. No bullshit, no "you need to re buy this music." It's just there, no matter WHERE I got it from.
78. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
One of us is misunderstanding the iCloud match service (could be me). You don't need to re-buy the songs. The songs that don't match anything in the iTunes database get uploaded directly from your library to the cloud (rather than using the native iTunes copy at 256 kbps). The $25/year is to keep them all (20 songs or 20,000 songs) in the cloud where you can sync up to 10 devices. I'm not sure where you got the re-buy concept.
101. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So Apple's service is laughable even though it has more functionality than googles? Googles is in beta so that's ok, but Apple's which offers more at a free price point is laughable. Do you see how unreasonable you are? Also for $25 bucks you don't have to re buy anything. Your little brain just can't comprehend it.
One more thing. You spent your entire day off trolling an Apple article who you claim to hate.
1. Why don't you get a life
2. I think you secretly envy Apple products
155. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I misunderstood the iTunes match service. iCloud does sound like a good service, though it still isn't a substitute for expandable memory.
1. I do have a life. I just set Monday aside for WWDC and its fallout because phones are a hobby for me.
2. No, I really do not. Why do you keep saying that, Taco? Doesn't make it any more true.
30. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
I actually like the iTunes match feature. I have some old CD rips that are pretty bad. Instead of re-ripping them, now I can have 256 kbps AAC access to them. No re-ripping required. Saves me hours of time, and I have access to them anywhere. Pretty cool, and cheap, IMHO.
9. EFchris91 (Posts: 22; Member since: 25 Jun 2010)
I'm really disappointed. Sure, there was a lot of great new improvements in software. But I was at least expecting a change to the appearance of iOS. Widgets even, but no. And still, not a hint at a newer iPhone..
10. akatz2134 (unregistered)
Is there a release date set?
11. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
This fall, coinciding with the iPhone 5's release.
12. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I think the fact that they said IOS5 will ship this fall pretty much says a new iphone will ship this fall.
13. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 849; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
Oh look at that, all of a sudden now Apple wants to have camera shutter button. Took them long enough. Now let's put it in the correct spot, make it a 2 stage button, and wait for Android manufacturers to jump on board finally.
73. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Android phones have had 2 stage cameras almost this entire time. What the heck are you talking about? Any current androidphone with or without an actual button has a 2 stage shoot. Press the button lightly to focus, and fimly to shoot. Hold the screen to focus, let go to shoot.
That feature is so 2007. But hey, u had to wait what 2 years to get MMS? and cut n paste? lol
135. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I see you never used a Droid 1 or Droid X1...
14. Lawsuits (unregistered)
Pull down notification bar just like android? Really?
15. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Wow, these are great additions to iOS. Although so far, I only see 7 new additions that I see myself using often, or find really useful.
1. Safari Reader
2. Reminders App
3. Camera access off the lock screen
4. Universal dictionary
5. Split keyboard
6. OTA updates
16. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Isn't it great how at least 4 of those 7 functions are already on, or announced to be on, other OSes?
24. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I think we all know that already, and would've switched to those phones if they really mattered a lot to us. Obviously, they don't, but we're just happy they've added it on to iOS5.
39. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Of course those functions don't matter unless they're on an iPhone. /sarcasm.
68. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Oh please. Aren't you tired of hating already? Apple users are happy with these additions whether or not they've existed somewhere else before. If Apple is guilty of patent infringement, then let them sue Apple.
74. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
safari reader AKA Formatting the page in WAP style like a free flip phone does.. lol. you people are idiots i swear. "its sooo new!!" lol
its amazing, i just double tap my browser on my android phone, and it does the exact same thing.. It has for quite a while.. lol
136. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Cmon, you dont find the revamped notifications useful? I feel its better to be tucked away like that, all in one spot. There are apps on Android that do it the old iOS way, but I never liked it.
I do like the scrolling dock area from iOS. One of my favorite launchers on Android does that.
19. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
WTF apple. OTA is a fail! Will lead to bricks just like android.
Will have to try the rest of features but nothing seems too great.
Bleep twitter, who cares.
21. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Hawk! How are you? Have you managed to brick any more Droid Xs lately?
Btw, I've updated my Droid X twice now, and there are no bricks to be found.
But what do you care, you're the guy who managed to brick 3 brand new Droid Xs in a row, and expected wireless tethering to be free.
38. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
i never bricked a phone.
Didnt have that POS phone long enough to do updates, you know with how slow moto and verizon are with updates.
Why are you even reading this story. OH i know, because you wish mommy would let you get an iphone.
41. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yeah, bullshit. You hate Motorola and Verizon because you somehow managed to fuck up 3 brand new Droid Xs in a row. Or at least, that's what you claimed. You were an Apple guy before getting the Droid X and you were an Apple guy afterward.
I followed the keynote today because of the first cardinal rule of a salesman: know the competition. I wanted to find out what Android, WebOS, Blackberry OS and Windows Phone 7 are going up against now and in the future.
So yeah, Hawk. Baseless insult fail. How does that make you feel?
51. zuno gyakusatsu (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
lol you make it sound like bricking a droid is hard. you basically just have to look at the thing to accomplish that feat...
53. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If you're a genius, maybe that's true. But if you range anywhere from normal to rocket scientist, that's not the case. High end Android phones are extremely reliable. My Droid X hasn't bricked on me at all, no matter what I've done to it. And I know a lot of people that'll swear by their Droids. If you've had the misfortune of owning a low end Android phone, I'd see your point. But the fact remains that as long as you choose the right hardware, you're usually A okay.
55. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
just keeping thinking i bricked a phone. whatever. I wasnt the one posting that their phone bricked because the battery was low during an ota. agian, thats a fail on android.
the sales show which phone is number one and its not android.
56. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, you bitched and moaned because 3 brand new Droid Xs bricked on you in a row. I can't for the life of me figure out how that would happen on its own, so it must have been user error.
If someone chooses to try to OTA update their phone while their battery is low, that's their fault, because you can OPT OUT OF AN OTA UPDATE UNTIL YOU'RE READY FOR IT.
Why do you not get this, Hawk? Are you really this stupid?
And iOS is the number one operating system because iPads and iPods are included in that count. When it comes to phones, Android has been beating iPhone in sales overall for the last couple of quarters. So it depends on what time frame you're looking at.
More iOS devices have been sold since the original iPhone's launch, but Android is catching up quickly.
85. DavidsonJ (unregistered)
You just cant admit that your "high end" Android phones can be pieces of shit, can you sniggly? In the real world, they arent the perfect little devices you swear that they are. I too am a sales rep like yourself, and i get more returns on Droid X's and Samsung Fascinates than any other phone due to defects and over all unsatisfactory performance. And no, its not user error that you swear is always the case. Motorola's have been the worst out of all the Manufacturers. The fact is, their products are consistantly sub-par. Theres plenty of reason to believe that they have a monkey as their sole QA department. Im not alone in this as many stores in my area report the same things with their Android lineup. Ive had 3 complaints on iPhones since its launch on Verizon in February. Ive had 3 complaints about Droid X's since my lunch today. Do the math, whiz-kid.
92. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Who do you work for, direct or indirect? I'm not saying Android hardware never has problems, even at the high end. But I'll be damned if I ever see three BRAND SPANKING NEW Motorolas brick almost immediately.
143. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
I think that's funny. I, too work in sales (indirect channel) and RARELY do I ever see an iPhone customer who doesn't have an issue or complaint. Dropped calls (with Verizon in a good service area), lack of data connectivity, etc. It doesn't matter if they bought the phone through my store, Apple directly, or a nearby corporate store. Android phones, on the other hand, rarely if ever have issues that aren't user error or just complications based on lack of understanding of how the OS works.
138. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Explain how the Motorola Droid X1 is gonna get 2.3 before the HTC Incredible then....and it got it about a week before the EVO 4G....and still before some stock Android phones....
32. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
you nuts? OTA is awesome and your can use the cable anyways if you want to (read the manual) but people like OTA because its simple and fast and you can use your PC for other stuff while it updates.... SO GLAD APPLE ADDED IT
20. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
I will drop of my messaging plan add more data and get an ipod touch now :) Good bye black berry :'/ you could always be my paper weight?
22. iphonejam (Posts: 7; Member since: 12 May 2011)
woow no new hardware maybe a bold move by apple but maybe not very smart considering how many user may switch to other hardware because they are tired of waiting for new hardware its been a year already come on apple you should know better than that we all know that consumers are itching for new hardware and will make the switch to android i know im looking for my new hardware today the new updated hardware is just not enough for me to hang around they could have introduced new hardware with a few things like better cameras and better screen like better resolution and bigger screen for that matter this is a big disappointment for apple lovers if you agree like this!!!!
23. Mikey2323 (unregistered)
All I can say is I'm pretty disappointed.I was really hoping they would completely rehaul the UI due to android passing them out in so many ways.Most phone reviewers constantly say how stale ios is and there right.Its getting so damn old!O well.When is the galaxy s 2 coming out?
27. iphonejam (Posts: 7; Member since: 12 May 2011)
i feel the same way about it i cant believe we all waited a year for this crap who cares about notifications
46. asdfasdfasdfas (unregistered)
You guys are seriously fighting over some of the dumbest shit...you avid phone freaks make up maybe .0002% of the market. Who the f*ck cares if android does this or apple does that. It's a phone at the end of the day and profits/revenue/sales speak for themselves. How many people do you think give a damn about hacking their phones and modding it with all these roms other than the 25 people who read phonearena. Sniggly, please find a gf asap and get laid, you seem very sexually frustrated. And if you're a salesman and not involved with selling anything apple, no wonder you're mad; you make no money! Jesus rollerblading christ people, you think apple cares about the 20 or so people who masturbate to honeycomb and gingerbread because it has widgets and pull down notifications? Apple went years without these "innovations and open source bullsh*t" you guys so worship and still pulled off sales android prays for every night to the linux Gods.
54. Sniggly (Posts: 6942; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You seem like a very angry individual. When was the last time you got laid? It was Friday morning for me. So...yeah. Good job on the baseless argument.
And it's very clear from your comment which side of the argument you fall on.
It's okay, keep buying Apple products. I don't mind. You deserve each other.
59. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2962; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
This guy is a complete idiot. I love how people get soo pissed off about other people arguing about a topic. Kinda beats the whole purpose of getting pissed off doesn't it?
139. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Oh dont take this to heart.....this is just for the iPhone fanboys that always wanna throw up copying when it comes to the iPhone and Android...
You have to remember....most of the time....this comment battles are from something iPhone fanboys started....
Bottom line, iOS users should be pleased with these new additions. Notifications was always a pro for Android vs. the iPhone. Whats happening is the pros n cons list between the 2 are getting smaller n smaller...
144. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
Any salesman who sells Apple would be more frustrated as Apple as a company makes it nearly impossible for a store to turn a profit on their product. Good try though, buddy.
48. Boti95 (Posts: 162; Member since: 05 Sep 2010)
I dont see the difference. The split keyboard was already on WINDOWS 8 anyways.
91. box (unregistered)
Not only that, but Viewsonic and Tap 'n Tap have had the split keyboard for years...
49. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2962; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Basically isheep, we wouldn't be so annoyed by Apple ripping off and stealing from others if they weren't so damn sue happy about how other companies apparently steal from them. What kind of message is that sending? It's okay to steal from others?
Yea Apple sues Samsung for stupid icons looking like theirs, but Apple has no problem flat out stealing Android's notification system. Something that Apple has failed to deliver for years.
58. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2962; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I know. Good for them finally getting a decent notification system. I might have stayed an iphone user if they did this 2 years ago but no. I cannot give credit to Apple for so obviously ripping off Android when they want to sue everyone for everything they claim they invented.
75. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
E X A C T L Y.
You dont see Google suing every person for everything they can think of. Apple tries to be the school yard bully while also being the one crying to the teacher any time someone looks at him funny. I had a coworker like that once. Really annoying and childish.
57. Rich (unregistered)
LOL!! this is great.
this is A(ndoid)pple
Apple Flavored Froyo. lol
63. KickRocks (Posts: 108; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
Isheep rejoice..........Your under rated, fossil of a OS has finally, well almost caught up with the times.......ON BEHALF OF RIM AND GOOGLE (ANDROID). INNOVATORS MY ASS!!! RIM and GOOGLE should sue crapple. ANDROID FTW!!!! SHEEP BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH :)
65. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
wow..... just read through all the comments... Sniggly beat everyone in amount of posts by a long shot....troll.
I am amazed at the ridiculous gripping and hatred/loyalty so many of you people have toward manufacturers and companies.
Get a life!
Yeah, so Apple came out with updates in their OS. These updates already exist on other platforms. Who cares? Did they rip others' off? Yeah. Do other manufactures rip each other off? Yeah.
Get a grip damn it! It's not the end of the world!
77. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i love people that bitch about people bitching.. your only adding to the bitching.. but its even more pointless because your only point is to stop bitching... while your bitching as well.. lol. dont you see the insanity!?!? lol
you have to remember, a lot of us actually work in the industry so we get quite into whatever is going on. if you cant hang with the big kids, quit whining because we wont let ya play. :)
115. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Aight Kid... Been in the industry for over six years now... And I enjoy antagonizing as much as anyone else around here...
Just bitching about bitching... that's all.
70. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I don't think Apple ripped anyone off. That swipe to pull down gesture is part of their api ever since. Several iphone apps have been using that gesture even before android came out. So if Apple decided to use that gesture to view notifications, they can.