Apple after Jobs - more relaxed and charitable atmosphere
0. phoneArena 02 Nov 2011, 07:27 posted on
The atmosphere at Apple has reportedly become a bit more relaxed, and employees have been informed that the company will match their donations to charitable organizations up to $10 000 a head. This is something Steve Jobs referred to as "giving money away" and has been opposing during his years at the helm...
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37. snowgator (Posts: 3346; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
My only questions:
Does relaxed spill over into the ambition of Apple as a company to loose it's edge? If so the product may suffer, and "i" products may stop being top shelf.
Does relaxed mean that those who are the creative driving force are encouraged even more, Apple get's very aggresive and "i" devices becoming more cutting edge? If so, than this monster of a company with all it's resources is going to near unstopable.
55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Great question. The next few products still had a lot of input from Steve Jobs. We will really see how Apple will do with product release 2-4 years from now.
62. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Yeah, they are going to change the world taco.
By the way, can I borrow your crystal ball? I want to find out when you are going to stop spewing bulls**t.
64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Apple already has changed the world. Thank Steve for your android phone.
Try responding to my actual comment
42. gregoryyy3 (unregistered)
Steve Jobs was a brilliant man but a selfish piece of s**t that I hope is burning in hell right now
46. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6963; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
You call 10,000$ donation more relaxed and charitable atmosphere? APPLE have billion of dollars they could at least donate 1$ or 5$ Million dollars for cancer research. This just to show you how greedy APPLE is and cheap they are when it comes to donation.
54. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
How much money or time do you donate?
60. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
A lot more than you.
I actually donate to goodwill every year. I just donated my time for a charity triathalon 2 weeks ago. Having medical training and donating my time for that is very rewarding. I donate clothes, food, and other tangible items all the time.
Now, big mouthed troll,
How much do YOU Donate??
I bet ZERO.
65. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Donating old clothes isn't s**t. How much money do you donate? You ran a successful business right?
68. snowgator (Posts: 3346; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Trust me Taco- the donation of time to charity, no matter what your choice of the cause, is every bit as important as money. It is great remixfa gives of his triathalon ability (remixfa- you are such a show off. Just worked myself back up to a mile, and that hurt!!) and his medical training. Nothing works without money, but all the cash-flow in the world won't help without someone to actually be there when someone needs help.
74. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ha.. no.. i didnt run it.. i just volunteered for it. checking for dehydration signs, passing out water, CPR, first aid, and that kind of stuff if needed. Anyone that has found me on G+ would have seen some pix of my classmates and I. It was quite fun.
I can tell you one thing.. all this school has made me in the worst shape of my life.. then again, sitting at a desk 10 hrs a day studying will do that to ya.. lol. Its all temporary though, as soon as I get time to breathe ill get back into some sort of decent shape.. lol.
69. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2462; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Funny you didn't answer his question? How much do you donate?
He donates his time using the skills he paid to learn. While donating his time he could have easily been working and making more money.
He donates food as well. Once it is donated it has to be replaced, out of his pocket.
Look at Warren Buffet. He is probably one of the most successful people in the world. He donates money all of the time and has pledged (along with Bill Gates) to donate 99% of their wealth upon their death.
Maybe if Steve had donated a little bit (say to cancer research) he would've reaped the benefits of it.
And before you ask, I also donate my time like remixfa does, though not the medical aspect of it. And we usually give around $2000-3000 to various charities every year. So again, what do you donate?
73. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
who said they were old clothes? i dont donate cash as it generally gets filtered through greedy hands and only a small % normally makes it to the person in need. i donate TANGIBLE ITEMS.
And again, you havent answered the question, which proves you dont donate ANYTHING, food, time, money, clothes. And your mom donating your old clothes you outgrew doesnt count.
Yes, I did run successful businesses. I dont anymore. Now, I am a student changing my carreer from business to medical. You can thank your government for destroying the private sector for that. It wont be as much as I was making, but its interesting and still pays well.
You sure do talk a lot of judgmental crap, troll.. but when it comes down to it your just a big mouthed hippocrit that is emboldened by the anonymity of the internet.
77. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@remix and VZWuser76.. so please answer this question?
are you guys better than the people than dont donate?
this is for remix as he is a little slow.. for his weight....
when I mean better as meant better people.. do you guys get special treatment in places for being charitible....?
88. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
thats what i thought... couldnt answer me... without looking like a prick.... being charitible is for your own ego only.. whom are you kidding... to make you feel better... the people that does it for the real reason dont go around gloating....
to be continued.......
86. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2462; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
You're kinda missing the point of charity. You don't do it to get something back, you do it for several reasons. Either to help those in need, to help bring about a cure for incurable diseases, or just to bring hope to people. But no, we don't get passes on speeding tickets or a free steak at the Sizzler.
As far as bragging, that's not what I was doing. But I guaratee that if I didn't put that in their, someone would've asked what do YOU donate?!? So I headed them off. THere's also a difference between donating and donating anonymously. If anything I welcome people knowing I do this, maybe it will inspire them to help as well. Hell maybe it'll just guilt them into helping. And help is appreciated no matter what.
Btw, thanks for your reply. It's been awhile since I heard "What? You think you're better than me?!?"
91. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@VZWuser76...thank you.. if that is the real reason you donate your time among other things... I am sorry I question your motive... most people do it for self comfort... ro to calm their conscious
78. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
bragging that you donate beats the whole purpose of being charitible.... lots of athletes do it for image.. what do you do it.. since you dont have an image
82. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Who is braggin?
I was answering a question by your brother in stupidity, taco. I have never brought it up until questioned.
Why dont YOU answer taco's question.. How much do YOU donate??
Did you really make a fat joke?? lol Seriously. I've seen your picture, gallito.
No, I do get a lot of "thank you"s at the event from the people we help and a warm and fuzzy feeling of thinking your doing something positive for the day. I didnt get a T-shirt or anything to commemorate the event. That wouldnt be real charity, that would be being paid in commodity.
87. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Wow, I noticed our 2 board trolls have nothing to say. You talk a lot of needless crap but when you get called on it you disappear and go troll the other threads.
Gallito, I really wish you would take the same bet as taco. I bet i get a lot of thumbs up the day that its announced that you 2 have to leave the boards and it was all because of a bet with me.
And yes, I AM better than you. Not afraid to admit it. :)
90. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
look you look at my pic you know i am not fat... (bet you on it)... second... I help change lifes... not help them one time... ok... is my job I admitt it doesnt make me feel better because my life is already is.. you on the other hand.. are charitible and make donation.... to make you feel better.... maybe your life needs it.. unlike....me.... you judging people on how much they donate makes anything good you do in life worthless... change people lifes... while you feed them, I show them how to fish.. so sit down and think about that one.. geek.. think before you write...
57. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
inspector, that is a COMPANY MATCH of PERSONAL donations from employees.
Under SJ apple gave ZERO.. never a penny. This is a first for apple to offer such a thing. Who knows maybe we will see Cook actually make a company donation here and there.
75. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
thanks for rephrasing what was on the article...
58. corporateJP (Posts: 2263; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Maybe he should have donated to cancer research earlier in his life instead of not "throwing money away".
85. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Zinggggg.. I think Steve might need some aloe for that burn... Wait.. Nvm guess they don't give that to those in H.E. DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS :)
70. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
He is dead.
He was a giant.
Stop to speak like that about him please
76. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
But why was such never written about Jobs when he was still alive... That he was "selfish", "stingy" and "greedy"?
89. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@ remixfa....look you look at my pic you know i am not fat... (bet you on it)... second... I help change lifes... not help them one time... ok... is my job I admitt it doesnt make me feel better because my life is already is.. you on the other hand.. are charitible and make donation.... to make you feel better.... maybe your life needs it.. unlike....me.... you judging people on how much they donate makes anything good you do in life worthless... change people lifes... while you feed them, I show them how to fish.. so sit down and think about that one.. geek.. think before you write...
you like bet... show your ugly face and I will show mine... hmmmm
so you are better than me.. want to bet?... you only know more about computers and phones than me. other than that.. dont thinks so.... want to bet,,?...
92. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2462; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
It's funny you use an analogy from the bible (teach a man to fish) and yet have this view of charity. Please tell me where it says that if you feel good doing charity, than it's not really charity. Everything we do gives us some feeling, whether stubbing your toe or doing your favorite thing. The point of charity is not what you get out of it, but that you sacrifice and do something positive, because you can't control how you feel about something. I have a big fear of needles but I give blood, and that good feeling I get helps to offset the negatives. You're supposed to feel good when doing something positive. I'm glad that you're helping people through your work. But how is it that we're only helping them one time? I don't just help once, I do whenever I can. And maybe if I help someone, then they help someone, etc. etc.
I have a good life, and I could go without doing good for others, but I have always thought that if you're doing well you should try and spread that around. If you don't want to get involved in charity and like what you are doing to help others, that's fine.
The reason this whole discussion started was because of Steve Jobs' view on charity.. He said it was just giving money away, but if that money leads to a cure for something like cancer, diabetes, alzheimers, birth defects, or heart disease, I woud call that money well spent. It's ironic that he died of a disease that needs funds to find a cure for it, and yet his company is one of the wealthiest in the world and better off financially than the country it comes from.
93. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
i am a good citizen... take care of my family... I have a life insurance for me so my daughter wont suffer at least to pay a large bill for my funeral.... look after my parents now that they just enter their senile stage... most people helped other people, when is their own live that needs help....
example.... Tennesse Titans QB Steve McNair.... looke him up... was a big contributor to charity,,, donated time.. money.... but was not taking care of his own kids.... I do the oppposte I take care of my family so other wont have too... if we all did that... we would have a different world...
94. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2462; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
My Mother had to go into a nursing home (alzheimers) around the same time my dad had triple bypass surgery. I left my job and moved to take care of him. It's not like you have to forgo taking care of your family to do charity.
95. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
never used the word forgat.. just that is just our responsability to look after our own family, so others wont have to do it...