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Apple A7 chip specs and details surface

0. phoneArena 30 Oct 2013, 06:10 posted on

Apple is notorious for not sharing any hardware details in its launches and instead shifting the focus on the experience, not the tech specs…

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posted on 30 Oct 2013, 06:11 3

1. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


lovely chip! Now lets see it on a platform that can utilise it!

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 06:20 10

3. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


+1. What's the point of such a powerful chip if they can't make it record true 720p in slo-mo videos....smh !

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 08:00 1

12. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Better looking games is about all that makes sense for these chips.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 10:15 2

17. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


No point in running 'better looking games' if it has to run in 4 inch non-HD display !

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 10:17 2

19. papss (unregistered)


What about the air?

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 15:41

26. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


Forget the air. This is a phone we are talking about. Full HD isn't really needed but if apple wants to compete then they need to implement in. We cant hold on to retina displays forever...

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 10:22 2

21. eldyagustius (Posts: 177; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)


I was satisfied with the only 4" display.. for me it's not a big deal.. this is a smartphone, not gaming phone.. probably if you look for the better looking games only by its screen size, go buy a tab or maybe even a PS4 with the Full HD TV.. you gone wrong if you want to find that experience only on smartphone :)

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 10:32

22. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


'I was satisfied with the only 4" display' ....Good for you. But the world prefers 5" displays over 4" that doesn't mean the entire world is being unreasonable because u don't find it plausible.

'for me it's not a big deal' - sounds like you are compromising and compromises should not be made for a $800 dollar phone (UK off-contract)

'you gone wrong if you want to find that experience only on smartphone' - I am not gone wrong. Those requirements I mentioned are currently available on all 2013 android models.

Seems like someone is living in denial :)

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:00

32. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Some people don't like large devices. You do. You dont speak for what the rest of the world wants. Some people prefer pockettable devices that are comfortable to hold and easy to slip into and carry around in any size pocket without feeling it at all.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:33 1

33. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Moto X is basically the size of the iPhone 5S and has a 0.7" larger screen. Your comment is 70% invalid.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 23:08

35. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


The Moto X is 7mm wider than the iPhone.

Thats the almost same width difference and in hand feel as going from a Galaxy S4 to a Note 3.

Furthermore. The Moto X is not the rule. Its the exception. I love what Google's vision of an Android device should be. Almost bought a Moto X myself.

posted on 31 Oct 2013, 01:58

38. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


I am not speaking for the rest of the world but the world itself is. There is a reason why all other manufacturers Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Oppo, Lenovo, ZTE, etc. except Apple have a 5" device. Its because the world is demanding so ! And the proof is they are selling well. So its not wrong for me to say the world is prefering towards 5" devices.

And PapSmurf's reply#33 was directed towards your 'pockettable devices' statement. He meant to say several other devices have larger displays and yet are only marginally bigger than iPhones.

i.e. 0.7mm doesn't make a phone 'unpockettable' but 0.7" is a welcome screen bump.

Stop believing Apple's BS !

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 10:16 1

18. papss (unregistered)


Which is standard for apple. Say what you want but the games do run better on my ipad 4 than any I've had before.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 13:19

24. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Even though I am a big Android fan I'll admit iPad 4/air is better than any tablets out there (factoring out the price that is).

But, often when I use my mate's iPad 4, I've found the graphically intensive games crashes a lot. I frequently encountered that when playing injustice.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 18:53

31. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Yeah because Slo-Mo resolution is an absolute deal breaker for me. They probably curbed it for power draw or thermal purposes anyways. The iPhone is an extremely space constrained device. Its not a mobile TV like Android flagships. There will be sacrifices here and there.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:34

34. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


There were sacrifices everywhere...

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 23:10

36. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Elaborate? Or stick with baseless comment? Your call.

posted on 10 Nov 2013, 04:21

42. fteoOpty64 (Posts: 8; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


"if they can't make it record true 720p". This is a limitation of the camera module/capture chip rather than the SoC. Small and cheap camera modules do not have the size nor power and quality of camcorder camera modules. You can see why no cell phone camera can beat a Go-Pro Hero 3 camera module!. Anyone would love to have such a camera in their phone!.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 16:42

30. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


"Now lets see it on a platform that can utilise it!"

It's on the *perfect* platform to utilize it actually.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 06:18 4

2. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 2117; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)


Apple your the best.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 06:20 8

4. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


*you're

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 08:12 11

14. HeWhoDoesNothing (Posts: 157; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)


No, they're not.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 16:37

27. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


Is this pantomime?

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 06:32 6

5. mr.techdude (Posts: 571; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Ohhhhh Apple u make me cry when u innovate a chip that can reach 1.4 ghz, ouhhhh, 2.3 ghz is not fast at all no lets go with 1.4 ghz.
All jokes aside but I have to admit when it comes to speeds for gaming and most apps nothing beats ipads and iPhones (coming from an android fan). No matter if android devices have 2.3 ghz the iPad air will beat that in real life performance. Imagine a 2ghz apple chip. GOD DAMN!!!!

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 07:18 2

7. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


ARMv8 (A7 1.3GHz) vs ARMv7 (S800 2.3GHz) I think.... Not sure though :/

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 07:28

8. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Still not sure what the benefit is :S

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 07:53 1

11. gixxerrider311 (Posts: 25; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


It's kinda like with AMD vs Intel CPU's, AMD advertises their chips to be quad core but in real time performance an i3 will outperform the A6 even though it's only a dual core. Apple really did an awesome job with their A7 chip.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 08:10 2

13. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


The problem with your desire is that it's unreal. As it is built in 28nm if you clock that beast higher it would heat too much. To go higher in clock speed they would need to go lower in the node scale> 20 or even 16nm.
They have done enough by creating a chip that can go against the lower Haswel core of intel (that are built on 22nm)
And I actually find that chipset is GOOD NEWS for Android too, as it will (hopefully) stop the stupid trend of "more cores is better" and will start the trend "BETTER cores are better" as far as you have at least 2 of them.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 14:53

25. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


its not about ghz but consuption, that A7 at only 1.4Ghz is taking almost as much power as the S800 at 2.3Ghz.
An A7 at 2.3Ghz would consume a gigantic amount of power...

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 16:38

28. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


"Ohhhhh Apple u make me cry when u innovate a chip that can reach 1.4 ghz, ouhhhh, 2.3 ghz is not fast at all no lets go with 1.4 ghz."

Wat ......

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