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Another analyst confirms new iPhone to come with 4" 1136x640 pixels screen and 500 nits brightness

0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2012, 02:30 posted on

His analysis why Apple is doing this states that there is user experience to be gained with having a larger display, but 4.3" and above displays seemed the tipping point for Apple when phones become unwieldy and requiring "visibly larger" batteries. The 4" size design with the above specs won as the perfect tradeoff between comfortable one-hand use, which Apple is very fond of, maximum app compatibility, and battery life, notes the analyst...

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posted on 06 Jun 2012, 02:45 6

1. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


If the 4" screen rumor is true, I can't help but to wonder who made that decision. Is this Tim Cook listening to the cries for bigger screens or did Steve Jobs come to his senses and included it in that 5 year plan we heard about. Either way it's a good move, but why be frighten by .3 more inches when other manufacturers are making 5"+ screens? How long wil Apple and Microsoft allow Android OEMs to have 100% of those customers? Clearly consumers have shown there is a demand for it, so supply it!

And please, don't call it "The New iPhone"! "The New" distinction is kinda silly seeing as though there will be another new iPhone coming next year.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:10 6

4. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


Why are they making it longer? They should be able to fit in a 4' screen into the existing shape. All they have to do is reduce that enormous bezel!

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 09:00 4

16. Synack (Posts: 677; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


ITS SO STUPID. What f**king moron decided that making the phone LONGER would solve everyone's problem. Is it so hard to make the damn phone just a little wider and a little longer? God Apple is so stupid.

This phone is going to look retarded like that. It already looks retarded in the pictures.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 10:42

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


These are rumors so we really don't know at this point.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 13:05

34. Leo_MC (Posts: 1691; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)


Pitagora tells us that the size of iP can fit even a 4.5" screen.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 10:44

21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Bigger isn't necessarily better. It's a personal preference and not a technological advantage. At this point the smaller screen hasn't hurt Apple's sales so I don't know that it's an issue at all.

I think android HAS to do stuff like giant screens to differentiate themselves from Apple since the OS doesn't.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 13:13

35. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)


the OS doesn't differentiate them from Apple.... yes it does. Their OS is completely different.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 02:57 8

2. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Why can't apps be optimized for any screen resolution like in Android devices? Seriously I have yet to use an app with two ugly black bars on the sides of the screen. So why should iPhone users have to suffer with them? And iPhone users attack Android for fragmentation.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 09:31

19. ian132 (Posts: 28; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)


Ya exaclty google made it easy for developers to put in code that detects the screen size automatacally. And your right about the fragmentation thing

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 10:44

22. saiki4116 (Posts: 388; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)


in iphone all the resources use static referencing like put a resource at some pixel,whereas in android to support all screens uses the same box model which is used in CSS.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 10:45

23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Huh Apple doesn't have fragmentation all the apps work. I'm sure Apple has a solution in place if the screen dimensions are different.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 12:29

31. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Actually Siri only works on the iPhone 4S, that's fragmentation. It's a lot easier to make sure apps work on 3 devices (because Apple won't update the OG iPhone and the iPhone 3G to iOS 5.1.1) than it is to make sure apps work on hundreds of devices.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 12:33 1

32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Missing one feature isn't nearly the same thing as only 10% of devices running your newest software almost a year later.

The 4 and 3GS have all the other features. It's pretty indisputable that Apple offers great long term support for their devices.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 12:44

33. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Yep Apple does a great job at keeping their devices up to date. Then again it's very easy for them considering that they only have 3 currently supported pones, which were all manufactured by them. On the other hand, Android has hundreds of devices manufactured mainly by 5 companies. That makes updating phones a lot more difficult.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 14:02

38. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


That's not exactly true. There apps I can't download on my OG iPad because I don't have a camera.

Also Apple hasn't allowed Mac users using Snowleapard to use iCloud. Why??? Greed of course! By making Lion required for iCloud usage, those who have Leapard, Snowleapard, or even Tiger have to either upgrade their software, which is a minimum of $30. Hardware upgrades are often necessary as well in order just to run the new software. So there is a lot of fragmentation with Apple that may not be as obvious because of these kinds of situations.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:10

42. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


more nonsense from you as usual

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 00:12 1

43. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Probably sounds like non sense to you because you know nothing about anything tech. You're a wannabe Apple fan who only owns an iPhone, and you have no idea what the requirements are for being in the Apple Ecosystem. Where as I have had to upgrade my RAM and upgrade to Snowleapard just to activate my iPad because ...IT WAS A REQUIREMENT. And now they want to force people to upgrade Lion just to use iCloud.

I tried to dumb it down as much as I could. But if you still dont get it, maybe you should try remedial courses.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 01:10

44. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Sounds like you should stop buying Apple. Seems like you're really unhappy with their products. You'd have to be dumb to keep buying stuff you don't like.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 01:30

45. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


And that's exactly why I haven't. My OG iPad is possibly my last. But who knows, maybe if Tim Cook can help Apple stop the a$$hole behavior like suing competitors because they can't compete, and start making compelling products again... I may support them, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:04 11

3. iShepherd (Posts: 38; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


If Apple can deliver 5 rows of icons instead of 4 on the new iphone I will take back all the bad things I said about Apple no longer innovating.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:11 6

6. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


Hahahaha!!!

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 07:02

15. ilia1986 (unregistered)


lol nice one

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:10 6

5. valapsp (Posts: 557; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


This is too long with the same width.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:58 4

9. loken (Posts: 462; Member since: 09 May 2012)


sorta like de xperia ray

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 05:04 1

11. VonRondo (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


I agree. The phone does not have the same visual appeal with a 4" 16:9 aspect ratio. It could be a big screw up for Apple. Too long and skinny. I hope they stick to 3:2 aspect ratio and go to 4" screen, or even 4.25 would be great.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:29 2

7. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)


Another fail analyst...

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 03:34 7

8. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


I agree.. The iPhone 4s' bezel is too large.. The resolution is weird.. 640x1316 WTF? Is that innovation?! lol.. I think they are too worried to decrease the 326 ppi "Retina" display that they all bragging about.. Look how Sony Xperia S display, 4.3 in., 720p resolution with eye popping 342 ppi..

I know it, that's the disadvantage when you don't build your own components.. lol

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 05:08 3

12. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I agree. The resolution seems very random. It seems like it will be impossible to properly convert a video. It seems like there is a meeting every year where engineers ask themselves "what is the least we can do to call it a new model?"

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 10:47

24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


No one makes all their own components. Considering the new iPad's display I don't think Apple will have any issue keeping a retina display.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 11:27

29. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


The resolution stated here is a typo: it should be 1136x640 (like in a title) instead 1316x640.

Resolution of 1136x640 makes sense: it's only 176 pixels higher than previous screen (960 px) and with same width (640 px), and that makes:

- 16:9 aspect ratio instead of previously used 3:2
- cca 4" diagonal
- exactly 329 ppi density like in previous Retina display

The only question is how they are gonna solve backward compatibility.

This analyst(s) provided theory that older apps will be shown with black bars on sides.

THIS IS THE KIND OF UN-ELEGANT SOLUTION THAT APPLE WOULD NEVER DO.

It just wastes too much space for nothing, given the fact that they think to extend the size of iPhone in general! This is totally unergonomic!

Instead, I think they will use extra 176 vertical pixels to incorporate virtual home button - like I visualized in my concept render. That way they will use extra pixels in a smarter way when we use older apps, and use widescreen for everything else. And of course, this way the physical dimensions of iPhone could be preserved, with increased screen size and easy one-hand use.

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