Anonymous leaks a million Apple iOS device IDs, obtained from an FBI laptop
0. phoneArena 04 Sep 2012, 02:36 posted on
The hackers group Anonymous, and its Antisec segment in particular, has released a million and one Apple IDs that it says were chillaxing in an FBI Dell computer. The hackers used a Java vulnerability to steal information from the FBI laptop, but the question is not how they got it, but rather what are iOS UDID numbers doing in there in the first place...
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2. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What was that about braying jackasses ripping on Google because they felt Google had too much info on them?
7. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Oh you mean like how Google maps can zero in on your location? Google has a ton of info, don't try and act like they don't.
Do you have to be so colorful? It makes it difficult to take your comments seriously at times when you're using potty mouth language.
8. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Google maps uses geolocation and GPS? Say it isn't so!
11. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
You must not know the fiasco behind Google Earth.
16. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Let me guess, it involved people being paranoid about their private data and a bunch of Apple fanatics talking about how great Apple is at privacy?
20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Google is a big company with a lot of power in searches. Do you really like the idea that they can know your exact position whenever you use your phone or their search engine?
15. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
A map and GPS app....that knows your exact location?!?! What is the world coming to!?!?!
The madness must stop!!!
10. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Hey, there's an Apple maps coming out pretty soon that's going to try to imitate Google.
Also, watch this.
12. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I take it you wont be using Apple's map app then huh.
17. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I didn't realize "jackass" was considered a swear. Considering your penchant for making s**t up, I'm not surprised you'd make that claim.
And a GPS app would be less useful if it wasn't as accurate as it is. That's what you get for using a phone that actually has a REAL GPS receiver.
22. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Well you do cuss a lot in your comments. It's like you can never post a comment without keeping it PG in terms of language.
GPS is one thing Google having tons of info on your location, preferences, and other stuff is another.
23. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Why does swearing bother you so f**king much?
And if Google planned on using its knowledge of me to sinister ends I would agree with you. However, their whole motivation is to generate ads I'm more likely to click on. And frankly, on the occasions when I have clicked on those ads, I have usually benefited from their presence.
Google is a private company, not a government with guns and jails. They've also proven to be resistant to world government efforts to access their information for censorious or politically controlling issues.
I mean, really, what ARE you worried Google will do with your info? Give me a scenario, Mxy, and make it realistic.
27. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
It makes your comments look very childish. Its bad that I expect a cuss word every time I see a comment from you.
I'm pretty sure they don't need tracking data that is heavily detailed and specific for ads. The amount of info they have out there is staggering. It doesn't help that Google is essentially a monopoly in its own market. Too much power.
A private company that knows more about you than you do about yourself.
28. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What's childish about swearing? As I recall, swearing is something adopted as one grows older.
And you still didn't provide a realistic scenario in which Google's possession of personal data could be a problem. Shall I give you another chance?
30. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Swearing all the time in your comments does make you look childish. I did not say there was anything wrong with swearing. You just swear too much.
Google Earth pointing out top secret locations.
31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You're talking about the government's top secret locations?
*rolls my eyes* That's not a scenario which personally affects you. Unless you're going to tell me you're really in the CIA.
Besides, I have no love of government, and I feel it's wrong that they've been allowed to create their culture of secrecy to begin with.
32. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
It's not who's involved. It's the principle. They just have too much data and information on its users.
Why do you defend them?
33. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Because there is really nothing to be afraid of, and what info they do use is put to work benefiting their customers.
If it were, say, Apple, I'd be more worried. Apple isn't an ad company. Apple doesn't need to know everything about you.
But even Apple is just a private company. No guns, no prisons. They're annoying, but not scary.
34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
How is Goolgle any different? Google is no more private than Apple is. I didn't say Apple was an ad company. Why does Google need to know so many details to show users ads that often times the users doesn't even care about?
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'm saying that the fact that Apple is a private company is why I'm NOT afraid of them.
First, let's establish what details Google knows (if you let them). They have your location sometimes. They have your name sometimes. They might have your search history.
All of this is optional info, and all of it can be used to better target ads for you. What else can you name that Google even has?
36. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Address, contact info, pretty much anything you do on an Android phone can probably be tracked by Google. Have you seen how Google Now can easily be tailored to fit your searches and day to day activities? That is too much information right there.
Google knows a lot more than you want to deny. It's the truth and I'm not trying to scare you. I'm educating you.
37. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, if you VOLUNTARILY AGREE to give such info to Google, they have it, and they spit it right back at you with services like Google Now.
Unless they have nefarious plans with that data, I really don't understand what the problem is with having a choice to voluntarily give them information.
38. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
You don't understand the problem because you don't want to see the potential problem.
39. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
They came under scrutiny because people misunderstood their policy. In case you haven't noticed, they are no longer under scrutiny.
24. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
I would be worried if Google's motto was "To be evil" but it isn't.
25. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Let me ask you something:
In a GPS or map app....if it doesnt have my location, preferences.....how it it gonna recommend whats nearby?
So...this is why Google Maps is so much better than Mapquest, the mobile and desktop version? Think Apple wont do similar to make their maps and GPS app good?
29. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
This goes beyond that. It's very creepy how much info google has on you. Do you really want a giant like that keeping that much confidential info around? With Google Maps and Earth, finding a location is almost too easy.
26. JonBjSig (Posts: 176; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
I cannot even begin to imagine, let alone comprehend your bizarre thought process behind that statement...
3. swagat73 (Posts: 11; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)
LOL, who asks for them? Use m-seal for this leak.
4. Peter27 (Posts: 233; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
I am pretty sure the iFans will try to pretend that nothing had happened and will buy iPhone 5 regardless.
18. Lift_Off (Posts: 152; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
Ya people most likely will. same way android users will buy the newest android phones regardless of how much info Google has.
5. andro. (Posts: 1998; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
This could be big security risk for ifans after all it has been widely and angrily reported that apple through iphones and iOS 'small print' has spied on ifans names,address,usage,location and continual movement month by month as well as the never fully answered possibility than I phones can take a secret random picture of the user and send it to 'nowhere'
6. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
It's the FBI. I don't care if the FBI has my info in fact, I assume the FBI has my info already. Who care if they have my UDID? The FBI obtaining my UDID or any of the other info in this article hurts no one. You know way? Because their the FBI. What the hell is the FBI going to do with your UDID or Apple info that should concern you?
You know what does concern me? Some whack-job, cult like, hacker group call "Anonymous" having my UDID; Apple info; name; location; address; etc...because, you can't trust "Anonymous". And if "Anonymous" decided to do something fraudulent with your info guess who would your #1 resource when trying to stop them...the FBI.
9. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
It really depends on which side you're on...
Sure the FBI has had your info already.
Sure Anonymous has your info now.
Question is, who's doing what with them?
Anonymous' attack is more of a "Look FBI, we just hacked your system and you're full of f*cking liars."
If I remember correctly there was an article here about the government saying the iPhone was unhackable by the FBI.
13. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Why the hell does the FBI want this info? Conspiracy theorist, unite!!! lol.
14. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Invading privacy just for the sake of it? I dont think thats a good thing. Even if it is the FBI.
Makes all those shows and movies about the govt spying on ppl seem true.
19. pats4thewin (Posts: 29; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)
maybe the FBI wanted anonymous to hack their systems so they could make it better? although im guessing not if there was real info leaked to them. either way, good read.