Andy Rubin might have not left Android amicably
0. phoneArena 03 Apr 2013, 09:13 posted on
Just a couple of weeks ago Google surprisingly announced that Android head Andy Rubin is stepping down from the project he created and will be replaced by Chrome...
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23. cheetah2k (Posts: 1491; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
How about PA do something useful for a change and line up an interview with Andy and ask the questions??
Could very well be the first non-propaganda article ever seen on PA!
2. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Change is good. Thats the silver lining in this recent google's executives shuffle.
3. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Sounds complicated, Andy Rubin steps down, Sundar Pichai steps up, Google chief executive Larry Page pushed Rubin out of there...................
6. MikeG77 (Posts: 401; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
I think that Page saw Rubin as a threat to his control of Google and was worried that if infighting were to occur that he could get ousted. I think Rubin has every right to be concerned as he has been heading Android to where it is at this point and he smart enough to realize that Samsung could really hurt Android AND Google if they get too big. Samsung could negotiate a higher percentage of advertising revenue or stop using android entirely which means less money for Google.
8. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Well, if Page think like that, he's wrong. Rubin is not a threat, he handles Android (Google) very well. But " stop using android entirely which means less money for Google." is not a good idea, what's next OS for Samsung if it stop using Android?
1. Windows Phone? A BIG NO, only Nokia can make a true WP.
2. Tizen? Not so attractive, just a start.
3. Symbian? Its dead, but if Samsung can revive Symbian back alive, I need to salute to Samsung for that.
9. MikeG77 (Posts: 401; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
If its not that then what????
Now in regards to it hurting Android/Google and Samsung its simple math. If Samsung pressures Google and Google has to pay them more for whatever revenue generated means less money in Google's pocket. Now if Samsung decides to step away now you you have less Android devices being sold which in turn means less advertising revenue for Google and ultimately a drop in stock price.
Oh and Rubin is a threat to Page regardless of what you think. If you worked for a company and help build something from the ground up yo wouldn't want someone coming in and making changes that aren't needed. By removing Rubin now Page possibly has someone in like Pichai that may be more receptive to his ideas.
13. MikeG77 (Posts: 401; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
LOL thanks. This whole situation just doesn't make sense to me why Rubin stepped down. I guess only time will tell.
16. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Your welcome. In my opinion, Rubin is still the best and can handle Android very well.......
But, we will just wait for the answer.
24. cheetah2k (Posts: 1491; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
MikeG77 could be on to something here. From all accounts of the pure popularity of the Galaxy range of handsets, and Samsung's customisation of Android (touchwiz), I'm thinking Google needs Samsung more than Samsung needs Google at the moment.....
25. Just.Saying (Posts: 132; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)
Well, there is Ubuntu. The open-source Linux-based operating system. Mark Shuttleworth is the first south african to travel to space so im sure he can be the first south african to take on google head on. I mean, Did Larry Page visit Space - Just Saying. South Africans can take on the big boys.
26. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Oh.....Ubuntu! I almost forget that!
29. Jack1192 (Posts: 35; Member since: 30 Mar 2013)
Nice theory about Saffers. Don't forget Elon Musk, he is from South Africa as well.
27. Jack1192 (Posts: 35; Member since: 30 Mar 2013)
number 3, is exactly like number 1. Only Nokia can revive Symbian, and for that matter make a true symbian device.
It doesn't seem to me that Samsung will alter course. They are just prepping up Tizen to make sure Google knows that Samsung is not completely reliant on Android, and that they are building a strong back up plan in the form of Tizen.
p.s. I am still cursing Elop to this day.
30. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Hahaha....according to some users, they said that Symbian is dying before Elop came to Nokia.
Take it easy dude......But I agree with you!
18. RomeoJDR (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
I think your onto something. Page saw Rubin as a primary threat to his position with Android raising Google's profit margin exponentially. What easier way to prevent someone from gaining enough traction with the board to take over the thrown then to cast them off to a lower profile position? Android is a strong platform that continually to take market share from iOS while improving with each version with big new features in contrast to iOS's incremental upgrades. Why would anyone get demoted for a job well done? If Rubin felt Samsung becoming too dominant was a potential threat I would listen to him.
4. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
If this is true, I don't understand Andy Rubin's theory.
1. The better, the more Android devieces for Google.
2. Samsung chose Android, not the other way around.
3. If it has to, Samsung is the one who have to worry Android's dominating in their devices and may consider second best.
Samsung might ask something special treat from Google and he might not like it.
but hell can they ask some? Aren't they your best customer?
28. Jack1192 (Posts: 35; Member since: 30 Mar 2013)
Samsung gets a chunk of the revenue Android is making thru adverts.
5. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Wow, he changed his Facebook profile indicates he left unamicably?
7. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Lol must be a slow news day...if there really was an issue between page and Andy dont you think in a world where everything is leaked we would have heard murmurs before and after andy leaving... Sometimes things are what they are and there isn't no ulterior motive... People leave or change jobs all the time.
11. BackHandLegend (Posts: 80; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)
I honestly don't think the direction Google is headed. They removed ads because of the new guy, and forced some third party apps to back down (not just ad removers). While it was against google's rules to make ad blocking apps they didn't really care and made no big deal about it, but let me tell you. I'd rather be safe with an adblocker on any device, than face harsh consequences later, because you never know if and when one day an ad is infected and steals your information. If things keep going the way they're going, I and a lot of devs who make custom roms are switching to Ubuntu OS. I ask that many of you not put up with Google's bulls**t and do the same.
14. MikeG77 (Posts: 401; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
No matter what OS you deal with your going to have issues BUT i agree with you on the privacy concern.
21. BackHandLegend (Posts: 80; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)
Yes, but canonical has never been about ads. They provide Ubuntu at no cost and all they do is ask for donations. Plus linux OSes are among the most open source.
12. Dion25 (Posts: 42; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)
Both Companies have backup plans, if things ever went sour between the two. Imo I'd say Google still holds the Ace. Samsung Mobile doesn't get to be this big without Android. The hardware is excellent, but without the OS it's just great Hardware. If they for whatever reason dont use android any longer, there's still, Sony, Htc, Lg, Motorola, and many others. However can Samsung survive with only their Tizen OS?
15. MikeG77 (Posts: 401; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
If you look at all the manufacturers you mentioned none of them really have the capacity to produce/sell as many devices as Samsung.
17. Dion25 (Posts: 42; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)
I meant as a whole. Maybe not one of them can match exactly what Samsung can do from a market/distribution point, but as a collective, they can. Samsung has grown to where they are, thanks to in large to android. I'm sure Sony, Lg, Motorola, would up their production to fill Samsungs void if given the opportunity.
19. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
He had even threatened chief of Motorola .... no wonder Samsung said Andy was hard to work with ...
20. Stuntman (Posts: 835; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
Now I'm very wary whenever someone I his or her FB profile info.
22. DavidRedpath (Posts: 7; Member since: 03 Apr 2013)
I made a compass app to pay tribute to Andy's work at the helm (Google Pay - Andy's Compass). It's coming out he may not have been the most friendly towards Google's partners today, I'm sure Android didn't get where it is today by not stepping on a few toes