Android was on 75% of all smartphones shipped in Q1, crushes competition
0. phoneArena 16 May 2013, 08:17 posted on
We have long ago started speaking about a duopoly in the mobile world as Apple started it all with the iPhone, and then with the quick rise of Android…
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1. tedkord (Posts: 4929; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
List of rationalizations and excuses to follow.
11. bucky (Posts: 1493; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
This is an android website. You fight amongst yourselves.
17. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I am amused that the "Android rulez!! NO iPhone rulez!!!" flame wars have turned into a Samsung-HTC pissing match. iPhone is barely even in the discussion.
23. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
iPhone will live on as long as people don't want to think too much and just want a basic and pretty smartphone from a major vendor.
38. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4155; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I am really impressed with Windows Phone though.
They gained 133.3% from last year. That is a pretty good start for them at least.
+1 for that comment.
Some people will not chqnge & those people will stay loyal to Apple until they utterly get sick of it.
51. JunkCreek (Posts: 403; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
with a magically, revolutionary and unbelievable price?
46. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Both are terrible phones with an army of retards backing them, save your money and wait for note 3, Sony Honami or Nexus 5.
47. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Not "rationalizations or excuses" - FACTS. More than 95% of the phones that make up that 75% figure are $99 3.5" QVGA el crappo handsets purchased by parents for their pre-teen/teenage children.
49. taikucing (unregistered)
but still better than iphone
56. Doakie (Posts: 1262; Member since: 06 May 2009)
I call Caca del Toro, show me sources for your made up 95% "FACTS"
58. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Please explain how thats even remotely possible when Verizon doesn't have that many types of Android phones.....
2. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
See also: PC, Mac and Amiga ca. 1993. And of course Android sales outnumber iPhones - there are a heck of a lot more of them to choose from.
54. JunkCreek (Posts: 403; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
and still, the Android (OS) users are much than Apple (iOS) regardless type/models. See thr truth.
Nowadays, compactibility and cross platform capability are much more important than exclusivity/lifestyle.
59. JunkCreek (Posts: 403; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
am talking about the OS user. OS USER. Not the type or device brand.
They just didn't want to see the truth.
3. shy2papa (Posts: 209; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
The fight now is going to be between BB10 and Windows Phone MS needs to do something to add more app BB10 as 120,000 apps in less than 6 months against MS 145,000 in 3 years
6. freebee269 (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
bad information. wp8 store had 125k apps on launch. wp8 needs new apps that dont work with wp7 since it doesnt share the same tech as wp7. so it's more like 125k at launch with 20k added in 6 months.
10. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
In Google ecosystem we have fragmentation, in Microsoft they have "abandonation"(WP7.5) which is worse?
15. freebee269 (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
lol good question. dont know that answer. but if i had to guess, i'd say abandonment.
28. Shaznek (Posts: 43; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
Cause the devices that are stuck at 2.3 and represent 44% of android are stil supported and receive updates from google.Right?
31. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Cause every single device which was launched before WP 8 did´nt get update
37. Shaznek (Posts: 43; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
WP7 =>WP7.5 =>WP7.8 and yes there will be some devices stuck on WP7.8 but i dont think they are that many cause they didnt sell as much as WP8
40. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
I can not talk about numbers, what I know is what I said, that when MS release WP8, they ignored every device that was made for WP7.5.
And now I will speculate a little, one big reason for large fragmentation on android is that there are many low end devices that can't upgrade to newer versions, that will always happen, and now, nokia is releasing a lot of low and mid range WP, that scenario will make WP ecosystem be as fragmented as android ecosystem? For me this is a yes.
41. Shaznek (Posts: 43; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
They couldn t upgrage them to wp8 because the hardware was old, same reason many android 2.3 devices weren t updated to 4.but still they did push the 7.8 update that brought some wp8 features which is better than getting nothing.And we will see which devices won t be upgraded to the next WP version, maybe some low end devices wont get the update,but sill fragmentation is still going to be much larger on android,also due to the work that manufacturers have to do to update their skins of android(which sometimes they don't bother to do) whereas on WP microsoft pushes the update directly to all the devices that can support it.
43. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Ow, I forgot about manufacturer changes, you are absolutely right
44. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The problem is that those WP7.x devices aren't old enough to be obsolete. The Lumia 900 and 610 are barely over a year old but because they started out with outdated single-core processors, they'll never see 8.0. Call it bad timing, blame MS for controlling the specs, but for Nokia to launch a flagship like the 900 and then strand it on the previous OS nine months later is poor form.
55. JunkCreek (Posts: 403; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
but, 2.3 still has support from official developers while WP 7.x was abandoned by the official developer and even "the maker".
see, compactibility wins.
16. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
And aren't a significant chunk of the BB10 apps quick and dirty Android ports?
4. FlushGordon (unregistered)
A typical Apple shill's response would be :
"That doesn't tell the whole story, Apple had the lion's share of the profits"
Yeah...but how long can they'll be able to sustain it before they'd end up like Nokia?
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5847; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Apple's challenge is to not rest on its laurels. BB/RIM made that mistake. If Apple can't update its UI and start to compete with what is available from the Android community, they will see a continuing slide in its market share. Even with the most margin/unit sold, if you don't sell units, your profits dry up. Which is why Apple's share price isn't doing so good - the investors are concerned about future sales volumes.
5. aveaphane (unregistered)
Just wait for the. S4 and iPhone 5s sales in Q4 the 92% will become larger
8. ryq24 (Posts: 507; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
There is nothing to be surprise about. Even the cheapest phone runs on android while iOS is too expensive and windows is still struggling just like blackberry .
25. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
what do you mean, an iPhone 4 is free.....w/ upgrade
30. ballaonnabudget (Posts: 34; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Yes for people in the US. Think outside the box (or in this case the continent) where there are no phone subsidies and a full priced iphone is a weeks wages for some people.
9. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
iOS is to Android like OSX is to Windows, so the numbers are just fine for both companies.
13. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
There wasn't any room for a third OS in the Commodore/PC/Apple-Mac wars though. Where does that leave WP and BB?
18. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Third OS is Linux, of course it have nothing to do with both WP and BB.
What I was trying to say is that when apple have real competition they never get first on sales report(so far from that actually) because they don´t aim every customers, but just a part of that.
That is what people need to understand, apple don´t need and want to be the first because they will always have a slice of the pie, and those people will never cease to use apple products as long as apple keep making good products FOR THEM( a very beatiful walled garden)
21. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Yeah, and Linux never made it to consumer PCs, so it doesn't really count. And I get that Apple has been raking in record profits and ridiculous stock prices despite the rapid rise and domination of Android. That counts for more than mere market share.
But I like the idea of a third OS option. I have no loyalty to BB and as I see it BB10 is over a year late to the party. WP is different enough that I think it deserve 3rd place. But even with MS and Nokia pushing it, will it make it?
26. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
I think the 3rd is WP, but microsoft should integrate WP, Windows and it ecosystem more, if they were raelly integrated it could it bring a lot of customers to MS, because of the strengh of windows pc plataform
32. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Live tiles definitely look better on a phone than on a laptop. I'm very curious to try WP, but am I ready to commit to it on a 2 year contract? I can see a lot of pluses in having Office built into a phone, and Nokia has great build quality and custom apps, and they're focusing on camera quality... but coming from an HTC Android I might get bored of Metro quickly.
36. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
First I´d like to say that I know that is not tha same, but I installed a WP8 launcher and after 3 days I was exausted of those tiles. How can they live without a notification system?
I have tons of apps on my home screen and some widget like a calendar, mail and etc... and WP does not offer nothing of that.
I don´t believe a hardcore android user can go to WP and be happy, there are too many compromises.
But the worse part is that I use, maps, talk ,gmail, drive, agenda, books and a lot of other things from google that I do not want to give up to start usin bing, outlook and other MS apps ecosystem.
Saying that I think its much easier to use WP if you never used any android before, that is why I think that when nokia launches a lot of low and mid range WP smartfone they are doing the right move, because they are getting people that are starting to use a smartphone
42. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I get what you're saying. WP doesn't need a "starter mode" like some LG and Samsung phones are coming with. I found Android plenty intuitive, but then again I used to use DOS and can still make my way into a Windows registry.
I'm at a point where my Android screens have pretty much been set in stone for over a year. I know what I like and what I need and I don't really change it up. I don't game much (although I noticed two big Android/iOS games, Osmos and Plague Inc, are not available for WP), and as for Google apps, I stick with Maps and Gmail and occasionally Talk. I guess I'd call myself a casual user.
What frosted me about my HTC is that it was part of the pre-One X crop and therefore stopped getting OS updates a year ago. If I DON'T want to root, want timely mfr/carrier updates, and solid build and voice quality, my choices now are down to Motorola and Nokia, and Nokia has the clear edge in camera quality.
45. marbovo (Posts: 654; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Don't get updates is a s**t, that is why I have a nexus, for me, do not use the last version of the android is the first cut off when I buy smartphones. but then again, if you think that can leave google products behind and know what is expecting you on other OS you should try it.
33. Arpad (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
Noooo but Windows also had fragmentation!.....oh wait they won the race.
Like Android is doing now.
12. Slammer (Posts: 1060; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
It doesn't matter what an individual feels is the best platform. We can debate all day and all night as individuals. What matters, is the choice of total users as a collective. This decides the most popular. This then equates the percentage of what represents overall individual choice. Just as Mac users frowned on Windows, it didn't matter. Windows was the overwhelming choice of the world.
Coming from both sides of the fence, I love how Android tailors to an individual's needs. This is why I predicted 5 years ago that Android would be the world choice for the average person.
20. SIGPRO (Posts: 462; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)
Damn WP is growing fast! This because of the King Nokia :)
22. akki20892 (Posts: 3551; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
WP is growing slowly. WP get 3.2% share because of Nokia's hard work.
24. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Tell me, how many phones windows sold?
Please, maybe you know something I don't?
34. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I took a survey of 30 coworkers, friends, and family and I found only one WP (Lumia 900). There's your 3.3%. :)
35. Avenger337 (Posts: 59; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
Android takes the cake by unanimous decision, but the question is will not let me sleep is knowing which operating system will be the third, BB10 fighting for his life, windows phone 8 is not the end of growth, Tizen is coming out, Fire fox and went, Sailfish Jolla's way. It's party has more guests than chairs so that one or two will leave here despite having a good intention to occupy the third place.
48. roldefol (Posts: 2971; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I think Microsoft is still too strong in the tech space to take nth place lying down. They must know mobile is the future or they wouldn't have (misguidedly or not) made Windows 8 so touch-friendly. Blackberry isn't in such great shape now that enterprise users are moving on to WP8 and iOS and to some extent Android. As for the rest, I guess we'll see what happens to Tizen and Firefox, but it's going to be tough standing out in an established mobile market.
50. Avenger337 (Posts: 59; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
is true colleague, the problem is that in the case of WP8 is already clear that it does not grow as it should, so that it will be the third ecosystem WP is just a myth, BB10 just missing out and more competitors. It is true that Android and iOS are well established but the 8 percent that is free of market share is still being fought and how I see things say that windows phone will be the third ecositema is na fallacy. Nokia is not going to be attractive as before unless new routes go bsuscando success.
57. JunkCreek (Posts: 403; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
try using Android as Nokia's alternative OS.
But, that won't be happen. Eloop wants Windows to rules Nokia.
53. adoptop70 (Posts: 20; Member since: 29 Apr 2013)
if care is not taking by other OS platform android will gain 95% of d market bcos of their open source every manufacturals are producing 4 android in all worths of life to d extent that a new babe of 2day wants 2 use android bcos of d lowend,midrange,high