Android security experts reply to Google's accusations: not charlatans, the malware threat is real
0. phoneArena 23 Nov 2011, 03:04 posted on
Last week, Google’s open-source software captain Chris DiBona radically wrote off the malware threat for Android. The engineer explained that the sandboxing models and underlying kernel simply don’t allow the traditional virus issue…
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1. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
First. Figured Google would pull this card. Virus and malware threat on Android is very real.
2. bigboy029 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Jan 2011)
I agree. Of course, people very tech-savvy will most likely not fall for malware tricks, but some people that dont know phones and apps too well might. It's just one of the downsides to having an open market like android does. (There are benefits too, of course)
6. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
So real, in fact, that after owning several Android phones over the last two years I have had to cross my fingers every time I unlock the phone just PRAYING I don't have any malware.
OH WAIT! Nope.
Siamese twins are very real too but how many people are born joined at the skull?
By the way miz, you know you are pretty much the only person on this site who makes sure to point out they are "first"... what are you trying to prove?
8. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
No, iamcc, I have seen plenty of others, yell \"FIRST!\" on here....something you will not catch me doing, even though I have been FIRST! on a few stories, lately :-)
10. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Maybe I just don\'t notice it as much but I can count on one hand how many times I\'ve seen people do it other than miz.
In that case I stand corrected. Sorry miz.
11. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Now, I was just first on the story of APPLE BLACK FRIDAY sales....and I did mention FIRST!! - See MIZ, that is how the BIG BOYS play :-()
3. sumdude (Posts: 50; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
It seems like a real issue to me. I picked up an autorun .exe off of a Youtube video stream on my first DX. Buffering turned out to be downloading through the flash player. As luck would have it the video was about malware. App. hung, then I had to pull the battery to restart. Powered back up, taking 3x as long to boot than normal.Home screen showed that Lookout was taken offline, restarting took forever and when it did come back, it looked and scanned normal but it was very decieving because my Lookout account was shut down and I was unable to access it seconds after I tried logging in. I had 2 temp folders in my sd card that didn't belong there. Which were empty but could not be erased. Lookout insisted their product would have caught it if it was malware, I'm dumh but not dumb enough to believe that. That phone crashed for good a few days later. I also think threadjacking is in the works cuz .jpgs have tried downloading content onto my phone as well. Only reason it failed is because of the datasaver feature that blocks all downloads from the Net in settings.
9. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Funny, whenever I get something downloaded to my PC or when visiting a site, McAfee tells me if it is good or not...You just have to be more careful.
4. snowgator (Posts: 3456; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
For all the people I have known with an Android phone, nobody has gotten an infection on their device. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
For all the people I have known with a PC, it is rare to find anyone who HASN'T gotten a virus at least once. Very few.
The result of my very accurate, well researched study? OS's on smartphones are not at the same risk for malware, virus infection, or demon possessions. Is there a threat? Well, sure. Especially on Android. There is also a threat of me winning the lottery. And I play the same 6 numbers in the Mega-Million two times a week. But the odds just do not show that even a small portion of people who play the lottery get cash back. And the facts are very few Android devices get infected. Just doesn't happen much. Until someone shows otherwise, simple common sense will be just fine as a preventitive measure.
5. putes (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Look these companies are using the virus fear to promote sales just like finding WMD in Iraq. I guess they are trying to adjust and stay relevant in a post PC era. I installed an anti-virus checker and it found nothing after two years of heavy usage.
Since it is more likely that you'll lose your phone before getting hit with a virus these companies should be promoting their other features to generate sales such those mentioned like Antitheft, remote lock, backup, parental control, Web filter, etc.
7. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I never heard nor seen malware on an Android phone......putes is correct - corporations are using fear to sell their mobile anti-malware apps. I am not saying malware does not exist, but, you can open the code of an APK in root explorer or on a PC to ensure it is malware free, if you are that worried.
Doublemypc.com.....now stuff like that you to worry about more than Malware on your Android device.
Now, for real issues on an OS, check out this link from 2 years ago:
15. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Dood this is over 2 years old. Is that the best you can do?
12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Android is more secure than iOS. You're just going to have to get over that, Miz.
things that make big headlines and things that are reality arent always the same. if you read the article, the guy basically says his antivirus software doesnt protect from much, and it doesnt need to.. its more of a "family filter" software.. lol.
14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
We have weekly malware articles about android not ios. Please don't bring up your tired quote about e hacking competition as you're misrepresenting facts as usual.
21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
really? prove me wrong taco.
9 times out of 10 anything you say is a "fact" is wrong, and anything you say im wrong about, is infact.. a fact.
23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Have already proven you wrong many times. I'm worn out dealing with the RVI
13. Hildy (Posts: 34; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
As Google pointed out and a number of comments emphasized, viruses are for all practical intents and purposes non-existent on Android.
OTOH, there is malware - apps which will do bad things if you install them. And that is the key - if you install them.
If a security vendor would allow me to modify permissions for apps or even to block certain apps from accessing the network without having to root the phone, I'd consider it. But those that I've seen are about functions, as F-Secure admits, like antitheft, remote lock, backup, parental control, and web filter, many of which I don't need at all and others that I'd rather have a specific app for instead of a bloated suite.
16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Last quarter the Android mobile operating system (OS) became the most “popular” platform for new malware. This quarter Android became the exclusive platform for all new mobile malware. The Symbian OS (for Nokia handsets) remains the platform with the all-time greatest number of malware, but Android is clearly today’s target.
17. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
A recent study has found that Apple's iOS is still untouched by malware, whereas users who choose Google's Android platform are 76 percent more likely to encounter funky software, making it the most susceptible mobile operating system in the world
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19. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2914; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Weren't you the one calling for posters to be banned for trolling? How is this any different. Nowhere in the ARTICLE do they mention anything about iOS, yet here you are trying to start a flame war.
I guess I don't understand the double standard you have. If this were reversed, you'd be reporting people left and right. So what's the difference?
24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Did you miss networkdood post and remix post?
27. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2914; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Funny, they were responding to Miz, who was the first one trolling. I said in my post that you were not the first to troll on this article, but you are the one who always calls for people to be banned, yet you do the same thing. So again, why the double standard?
20. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2914; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Since you are fond of links, what about these:
26. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
No OS is 100% secure. Android is the least secure by a long shot though.
18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Androids please don't pull the will over your own eyes. Open leads to less secure.
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
our will is fine. ifools, please pull the WOOL from your eyes.
and quit trolling taco.
25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Not trolling. You guys deny the facts. I posted some for you. Android at this point is THE malware platform of the world. Open is good for some things, but not for security.
You guys should not deny this. Trolling PA will not keep you safe from viruses.
Combine this with the fact most android users are very fond of pirating software, music etc and the risk increases.
28. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2914; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Yeah, and no iOS users have ever used p2p or torrents to get music & movies right?