Android rises as RIM sales fall stateside, Samsung grows its lead as US top phone vendor
0. phoneArena 31 Aug 2011, 04:16 posted on
Android is the leading smartphone platform in the US and it’s quickly growing its lead as the share of the mobile OS jumped to 41.8% in the second quarter…
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I'm sure there must be at least a few people using bada in the US, even thought it won't be as much as the 10 % bada users in france.
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, i tried to tell ya, bada doesnt exist here peter. :)
17. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
We all try to tell him, but he is just to much fun to be rude to....
18. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
i know that there is not alot of bada users in the US...
Maybe Samsung will launch the Wave 3 in the us, and then the market share in hte US will increase...
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ya from 0.0 to 0.2% :)
you have to get past the sales reps who push what they know... which is iOS, Android, and to a lesser extent (by far) WP7 and BB.
45. brant (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
There not going to mention it because like going to be like .2 percent or it not being sold by carries so it make it difficult to track.
2. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Anyway, seems like WP7 isn't doing to well, guess most people don't like the UI, or maybe ther operators simply don't want to sell WP7 as much as android. Remember reading an article about that at phonearena earlier.
10. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Nice try at the slam of W7, Peter- not quite right. If you look at the graph, it is listed as "Microsoft", in otherwords both W7 and the old Windows Mobile which was just discontinued at the beginning of the year. The overall percentage of Microsoft support OS's has dropped- Windows Mobile was a large percentage of smartphone platforms until early 2010, when it started getting it's tail whomped on by Android, prompting Microsoft to scrap it and start over again with W7. The discontinued Windows Mobile is the reason why the drop in sales in Microsoft.
Sorry, buddy, but you better get your licks in now on your mortal enemy W7 while you still can. I fully expect it to take off next year. Nokia alone will help push it to around 10%, and throw in the Asian markets it is now going to be supported in that it wasn't ever before, and growth is assured. However, I am sure Bada will get to a point that in a couple more years it might even have a chance to be listed on these graphs on it's own, not just lumped in with "other".
19. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Let's wait and see if WP7 take of or not, my guess is that it won't.
I guess you all can agree that is is either a sucess or fiasco for WP7 now in the coming months with Nokia WP7, and 2nd generation of WP7 phones.
bada is already listed as a OS and not in other, in surveys here in europe.
34. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
While I am with you that it is a put up or shut up time for the W7 crowd, it is going to take longer than "the coming months". Android and iOS are so ingrained in the minds of consumers, chipping into their lead is a long process. But, as more and more feature phone users move to smart phones, W7 can compete. As RIM users have moved away from that platform, W7 can compete. There is no doubt W7 HAS TO have growth in 2012. In my humble, unimportant opinion, they need to be at least 15% of Smart phone sales world wide going into 2013. 20% would be a pure victory.
And Bada is growing quite nicely in the markets it is in. The stats show it. It has appealed to the huge whole in the market Symbian left. So, in those markets it will go head to head with W7. We will be watching...
21. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
and one more thing.
You say that the reason micrsoft percentage dropped is because of MS discontinuing winmo. Sure that is probably the reason, but if WP7 is such a sucess, why is the overall percentage for MS decreasing ?
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
because windows 6xx had a 10% userbase while WP7 has around 5% of the user base. It will shrink for now as they windows 6xx people upgrade to other things.
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sorry, let me correct myself.
of the total windows userbase, somewhere between half and 2/3rd of the userbase is still windows 5/6xx devices. The rest are WP7 sets. As those windowsXX devices get upgraded to other things like ios/android/ and yes WP7 the total "windows" segment is going to shrink even though WP7 itself is still expanding.
Also, this chart is for america. WP7 is much more popular in europe than in america right now partially because those evil sales reps (like me) sell what we love.. and thats android.
I love some WP7, but it needs that mango upgrade, some more apps, and a few more phone choices before it becomes a real player.
29. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I know that MS market share is decreasing because Winmo 6.xxx is being discontiued.
My point is, MICROSOFT IS LOSING MARKET SHARE BY DISCONTINUING WINMO 6.xxx and instead switching to WP7.
Had WP7 been a success, MS would have had at least the same market share as with Winmo 6.xxx, otherwise they could just stick with Winmo 6.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sometimes you have to take a step back to take 2 steps forward.
MS made the right choice in killing windows 6xx off.. it was a horrible monster. WP7 is vastly superior to w6xx even though it does much less, for now.
and, if we get a bada in the store ill play with one, i always play with the new stuff. :)
43. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
what does wp7 do much less on? and ya peter wp7 is gonna become the third ecosystem in the coming months... it won't be a quick change but i think wp7 will take some of bb's and others shares..
44. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
and--as soon as microsoft releases windows 8 with its metro and wp7 integration, i expect to see a huge jump in wp sales
btw can't really call it wp7 anymore... its just wp... haha
47. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
No i don't really think WP7 has a chance to be the third ecosystem.
There has been so much hype about WP7 being the third ecosystem, that most people has seem to forgotten to look at the market share...
bada has more market share than WP7, and with samsung backing bada up, it is very likely bada might be the 3rd ecosystem.
30. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
And can you at least promise me that if you get the Wave 3 where you work as a sales rep, can you try and push that, pleeaaase ? : )
35. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
@ remixfa - about the choice of W7 handsets: Sigh .... so true, so true.
49. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
You should be carefull. As a fellow sales rep I think we both know we're not suppose to be pushing a certain brand or phone but yes to ask our customers questions and find a device sutable for their needs not ours.
3. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Eat from that rotten Apple, Green Android! EAT IT!!
36. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Android is eating the RIM Blackberry, too. In fact, based on personal experience, more 'Berries are being eaten by Android than are Apples. Two friends that upgraded to the new Bold 9930 managed to brick the handset during activation. One friend switched for an EVO 3D after seeing mine. The other is waiting to see the Bionic.
Maybe the graphic should have shown the Android robot munching a blackberry?
37. ilia1986 (unregistered)
It doesn't matter, Even if it's 9000 BBs lost compared to 1 Apple killed by Android - I'm still happy.
As the ancient saying goes - it's fine to kill 1000 people to get to 1 rotten traitor.
4. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Spoiled Apple inc. is very bad taste for Samsung and people stop buying it.
5. romrom (unregistered)
people use more of everything, but battery technology hasnt improved at all.. battery wont even last 3/4 of a day when you turn on 3g, let alone gps.... so am stuck with 2g/edge whatever you call just to make a full day,,,btw been using android (htc hero, desire hd, xperia arc, and xperia mini pro)....
32. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Battery technology HAS improved drastically. 10 years ago a Samsung brick phone would have had a 340mAh huge fat brick for it's battery.
Now a sleek SGS2 has about 16xx mAh - 4 times the capacity at half the overall size.
Sure, phone software has progressed 600x times since 2001, but that's not to say battery advancements haven't been made at all. It's just that their speed has been naturally slower than the advancements in phone software and OS.
6. maxxx (unregistered)
in 2012 Blackberry will die
12. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Not likely die. But, if QNX doesn't take off at launch, or they wait too long to get them to market, Blackberry will have a very long 2013 as they have to restructure....
33. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I think that BB will be like Nokia. Only this time they will embrace Android.
7. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 474; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)
Lookw like Steve jobs and iPhone will have something in common, both might be cancelled out!
8. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
This is exactly what Apple doesn't want- Samsung becoming top US vendor. Well, they don't want Samsung competing with them anywhere else in the world.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
samsung has been the top US vendor for a little while now. Remember they also sell a ton of feature and flip phones as well. The race is a little closer when you look at just smartphones.
9. Nandhini (unregistered)
There seem to be a good number of people who like WP7 more than Android! WP7 can't match the apps on Android, but the Hardware and UI could be a plus. A study conducted by SocialNuggets on user posts shows that WP7 has had more positive comments than other Platforms since January 2011 -http://socialnuggets.net/smart
15. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Good tid-bit for those of us who like W7!! Thanks for the graph!!
If we can get more than 1 selection to each carrier and some support from sales people in the showrooms, W7 will get the traction it needs to become the solid #3 by the end of 2012, which is a resonable goal for them.
14. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i love how everyone is on here trying to pimp their non android/ios OS preferences.. lol
16. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
You say it like it is a bad thing, remixfa.... :-D
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
nah, i think its funny. ive been in a very joking/sarchastic mood lately if u cant tell by my posts. maybe its because taco, miz and the bunch seem to be on vacation.. lol
31. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
It has been peaceful... maybe they just joined a iPhone blog where they can bash anyone they want. Probably a lot happier.
38. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Or.. their 1 month Apple warranty ended.
20. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)
*Fires up his ole Nokia 5150
Whatever operating system that it is using.
Why is not it listed?
39. ilia1986 (unregistered)
That sir is the best OS in the world! lol.
Seriously. I think you can even assign different ringtones to SMS messages! Thats MORE customization right there than the iPhone LOL.
22. kdsgs2 (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Jul 2011)
Samsung leads the android bandwagon and apple cant stop it.
Go green robot eat apple.
26. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
Robot eats apple ..where are the sheep at?? taco the jiz 530,gallo with is droid x anybody???I don't think we will see them today because they all know the SG2 is in town a sheeps worst nightmare lol
40. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Nah nah nah naaaah!
I'm only gonna jailbreak, jail jailbreak your iPhone. I'm only gonna jailbreak, jail jailbreak your iPhone.
Now listen to me iSheep.
Before I leave yer Apple
They call me fandroid
I don't wanna deceive ya
If you bind me with iTunes
I'm not easy to please
I will tear you apart
Told you from the start - I want widgets and delight.
There's no point trying to hide it
no point trying to evade it.
I know I want FREEDOM
I don't have it with what I'm getting.
And you know SJ gonna get me back for being so cold
like a big bad Android, I'm born to be free to the bone
If you bind me with iTunes I'm gonna tear you apart
Told you from the start.
41. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
If Adolph Jobs is such the genius, how could he not know that if you are going to run a business where you buy all your parts from the outside, and you sue one of your best component makers and try to ruin them....all your friends will get tired of looking over their shoulders and run for cover.
You can't take your ball and go home if the ball is not truly yours to begin with.
46. Ik (unregistered)
History is about to repeat itself. Just watch how microsoft's WP7 will steal the game in no time.
50. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Apple will survive because even if they raise the price of the iDiotPhone to 500 on contract to compete the sheep will buy, no matter what they can't buy to have the phone they will buy.......
MUST HAVE iPHONE,
MUST HAVE iPHONE,
MUST HAVE iPHONE,
52. jack1059 (unregistered)
Im honestly surprised that MS sales have continued to slide. Id of thought that WP7, competant enough but not my cup of tea, would have gone a long way to somewhat reversing MS's fortunes. I never expected massive sales gains, but i wouldnt have thought they'd continue to slide.