Android rises as RIM sales fall stateside, Samsung grows its lead as US top phone vendor
0. phoneArena 31 Aug 2011, 04:16 posted on
Android is the leading smartphone platform in the US and it’s quickly growing its lead as the share of the mobile OS jumped to 41.8% in the second quarter…
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1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I'm sure there must be at least a few people using bada in the US, even thought it won't be as much as the 10 % bada users in france.
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, i tried to tell ya, bada doesnt exist here peter. :)
17. snowgator (Posts: 3598; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
We all try to tell him, but he is just to much fun to be rude to....
18. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
i know that there is not alot of bada users in the US...
Maybe Samsung will launch the Wave 3 in the us, and then the market share in hte US will increase...
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ya from 0.0 to 0.2% :)
you have to get past the sales reps who push what they know... which is iOS, Android, and to a lesser extent (by far) WP7 and BB.
45. brant (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
There not going to mention it because like going to be like .2 percent or it not being sold by carries so it make it difficult to track.
2. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Anyway, seems like WP7 isn't doing to well, guess most people don't like the UI, or maybe ther operators simply don't want to sell WP7 as much as android. Remember reading an article about that at phonearena earlier.
10. snowgator (Posts: 3598; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Nice try at the slam of W7, Peter- not quite right. If you look at the graph, it is listed as "Microsoft", in otherwords both W7 and the old Windows Mobile which was just discontinued at the beginning of the year. The overall percentage of Microsoft support OS's has dropped- Windows Mobile was a large percentage of smartphone platforms until early 2010, when it started getting it's tail whomped on by Android, prompting Microsoft to scrap it and start over again with W7. The discontinued Windows Mobile is the reason why the drop in sales in Microsoft.
Sorry, buddy, but you better get your licks in now on your mortal enemy W7 while you still can. I fully expect it to take off next year. Nokia alone will help push it to around 10%, and throw in the Asian markets it is now going to be supported in that it wasn't ever before, and growth is assured. However, I am sure Bada will get to a point that in a couple more years it might even have a chance to be listed on these graphs on it's own, not just lumped in with "other".
19. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Let's wait and see if WP7 take of or not, my guess is that it won't.
I guess you all can agree that is is either a sucess or fiasco for WP7 now in the coming months with Nokia WP7, and 2nd generation of WP7 phones.
bada is already listed as a OS and not in other, in surveys here in europe.
34. snowgator (Posts: 3598; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
While I am with you that it is a put up or shut up time for the W7 crowd, it is going to take longer than "the coming months". Android and iOS are so ingrained in the minds of consumers, chipping into their lead is a long process. But, as more and more feature phone users move to smart phones, W7 can compete. As RIM users have moved away from that platform, W7 can compete. There is no doubt W7 HAS TO have growth in 2012. In my humble, unimportant opinion, they need to be at least 15% of Smart phone sales world wide going into 2013. 20% would be a pure victory.
And Bada is growing quite nicely in the markets it is in. The stats show it. It has appealed to the huge whole in the market Symbian left. So, in those markets it will go head to head with W7. We will be watching...
21. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
and one more thing.
You say that the reason micrsoft percentage dropped is because of MS discontinuing winmo. Sure that is probably the reason, but if WP7 is such a sucess, why is the overall percentage for MS decreasing ?
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
because windows 6xx had a 10% userbase while WP7 has around 5% of the user base. It will shrink for now as they windows 6xx people upgrade to other things.
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sorry, let me correct myself.
of the total windows userbase, somewhere between half and 2/3rd of the userbase is still windows 5/6xx devices. The rest are WP7 sets. As those windowsXX devices get upgraded to other things like ios/android/ and yes WP7 the total "windows" segment is going to shrink even though WP7 itself is still expanding.
Also, this chart is for america. WP7 is much more popular in europe than in america right now partially because those evil sales reps (like me) sell what we love.. and thats android.
I love some WP7, but it needs that mango upgrade, some more apps, and a few more phone choices before it becomes a real player.
29. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I know that MS market share is decreasing because Winmo 6.xxx is being discontiued.
My point is, MICROSOFT IS LOSING MARKET SHARE BY DISCONTINUING WINMO 6.xxx and instead switching to WP7.
Had WP7 been a success, MS would have had at least the same market share as with Winmo 6.xxx, otherwise they could just stick with Winmo 6.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sometimes you have to take a step back to take 2 steps forward.
MS made the right choice in killing windows 6xx off.. it was a horrible monster. WP7 is vastly superior to w6xx even though it does much less, for now.
and, if we get a bada in the store ill play with one, i always play with the new stuff. :)
43. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
what does wp7 do much less on? and ya peter wp7 is gonna become the third ecosystem in the coming months... it won't be a quick change but i think wp7 will take some of bb's and others shares..
44. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
and--as soon as microsoft releases windows 8 with its metro and wp7 integration, i expect to see a huge jump in wp sales
btw can't really call it wp7 anymore... its just wp... haha
47. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
No i don't really think WP7 has a chance to be the third ecosystem.
There has been so much hype about WP7 being the third ecosystem, that most people has seem to forgotten to look at the market share...
bada has more market share than WP7, and with samsung backing bada up, it is very likely bada might be the 3rd ecosystem.
30. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
And can you at least promise me that if you get the Wave 3 where you work as a sales rep, can you try and push that, pleeaaase ? : )
35. snowgator (Posts: 3598; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
@ remixfa - about the choice of W7 handsets: Sigh .... so true, so true.
49. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
You should be carefull. As a fellow sales rep I think we both know we're not suppose to be pushing a certain brand or phone but yes to ask our customers questions and find a device sutable for their needs not ours.
3. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Eat from that rotten Apple, Green Android! EAT IT!!
36. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Android is eating the RIM Blackberry, too. In fact, based on personal experience, more 'Berries are being eaten by Android than are Apples. Two friends that upgraded to the new Bold 9930 managed to brick the handset during activation. One friend switched for an EVO 3D after seeing mine. The other is waiting to see the Bionic.
Maybe the graphic should have shown the Android robot munching a blackberry?
37. ilia1986 (unregistered)
It doesn't matter, Even if it's 9000 BBs lost compared to 1 Apple killed by Android - I'm still happy.
As the ancient saying goes - it's fine to kill 1000 people to get to 1 rotten traitor.
4. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Spoiled Apple inc. is very bad taste for Samsung and people stop buying it.
5. romrom (unregistered)
people use more of everything, but battery technology hasnt improved at all.. battery wont even last 3/4 of a day when you turn on 3g, let alone gps.... so am stuck with 2g/edge whatever you call just to make a full day,,,btw been using android (htc hero, desire hd, xperia arc, and xperia mini pro)....
32. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Battery technology HAS improved drastically. 10 years ago a Samsung brick phone would have had a 340mAh huge fat brick for it's battery.
Now a sleek SGS2 has about 16xx mAh - 4 times the capacity at half the overall size.
Sure, phone software has progressed 600x times since 2001, but that's not to say battery advancements haven't been made at all. It's just that their speed has been naturally slower than the advancements in phone software and OS.
6. maxxx (unregistered)
in 2012 Blackberry will die
12. snowgator (Posts: 3598; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Not likely die. But, if QNX doesn't take off at launch, or they wait too long to get them to market, Blackberry will have a very long 2013 as they have to restructure....