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Android isn't iOS, so why do we try to define it the same way?

0. phoneArena 26 Aug 2014, 22:52 posted on

One of the biggest reasons for Android's success is in the hardware variety. There is an Android smartphone that fits everyone's preferences, size needs, and budget. The basic aim of the platform is to be incredibly adaptable and malleable, so why do people continue to try defining Android's success through the lens of what Apple has done with iOS? The comparison makes little sense when looking at market share, and even less sense when looking at how the platforms are built and how that affects the resulting hardware...

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posted on 26 Aug 2014, 22:57 22

1. Busyboy (Posts: 410; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Too long for me to read lol

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:17 3

7. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8922; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Lol for real! The to spend two minutes and read this essay haha.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:48

13. Mrmark (Posts: 162; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)


Hahah! More like a tech novel.

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 09:56 1

51. Charlie_boy (Posts: 64; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)


I like BusyBoy's comment. It's short and meaningful.
It's so different from this typical Michael H article.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:44 7

10. Mrmark (Posts: 162; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)


Started with the first two sentences and then scrolled down ... Looked at a couple photo charts ... Saw your comment ... Gave a thumbs up.. Posted a reply.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:37 3

21. Busyboy (Posts: 410; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Lmao. I don't come on PA to read essays, I come here to read biased reviews, bait articles and repetitive rumours.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:55 3

24. neela_akaash (Posts: 176; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Android is great because it is highly versatile than ios. Android is being upgraded to replace a laptop someday, but ios is still focused just for phones and tablets.

The android doesn't have any comparison with ios at all. Better compare it with windows and mac os...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:07

26. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Something tells me you're being sarcastic.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 02:45

33. Cicero (Posts: 494; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


So your day is over. Good night!

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 22:58

2. NateAdam8 (Posts: 225; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


They do the same for every other Mobile OS.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:01 13

3. swiekekodok (Posts: 58; Member since: 19 Jul 2014)


Android is no.1 mobile OS.why? ---> hardware variety

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:44 12

11. sgodsell (Posts: 1435; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Its not just hardware variety. Its a lot of other things. Its also price. Its ecosystem. Its customization. Its user experience.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:06 4

17. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


I think it's more important to forget what's number one, and find out which platform you like the most, and works best for you...
.........
Most of the things that Android fans might think makes Android number one are subjective, and aren't factually things that you can say are better.. The same goes for iWP.... The only metric that could factually make Android number one is market share, and that's a terrible way to choose a device...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 03:42 3

36. nasznjoka (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


So? why should you choose an os that you know for sure it is inferior in everything compared to the present OS? if you want simplicity go iphone if you need customization,geeky kind of system go android. Why have you chosen wp? fanboyism is the more terrible way of choosing a device than market share

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:07 2

41. colinkiama (Posts: 53; Member since: 23 Nov 2013)


No he isn't a fanboy. He chose the phone because he likes it. And he wasn't influenced by other people.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:43 2

42. nasznjoka (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


No he choose because it's a microsoft's

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 15:42 1

49. bwhiting (Posts: 173; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)


I choose wp and android devices. I chose a WP device because of the features it had that I wanted. It was more of a business oriented phone that had good battery life for me. An Android because it helped me enjoy customization and rooting if I wanted.

Microsoft is not by far great at everything but it does what I need to get done. It is quick and responsive and offer some customization - may not be a lot but it offers a but more at times.

Just because someone chooses a WP doesn't make them a fanboy of the company, just that it offered something that they wanted and needed on their daily usages.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:45 2

44. elitewolverine (Posts: 2068; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


I chose wp and android. I enjoy my wp because so far it simply just works. I also liked that since wp7 i was able to do office documentation without worry about formatting. I have powerpoints that right now i get from customers that have put it through a 3rd party program that i have to once more fix.

I used to enjoy rooting, but at the same time i usually had more issues than just simple android. It is fun, but as i started to not really care about mobile gaming since my needs are done so by xbox and pc, i dont care what games are on the device. I dont have the time to play them.

Inferior in everything is very subjective too. Does it make calls? text? access to apps (not count)? can i edit my documents? can i play music? can i download songs? can i take great pictures? For the majority, vast majority, all three os's can do this.

Dealing daily with live actual normal people and not people on PA, half if not more, dont even know what version of android nor even know that it is android to begin with.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:09 7

4. dsDoan (Posts: 223; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


"Amazon on the other hand, is designed to be able to run on a wide range of devices across price points and form factors."

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:40 3

9. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 342; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)


I was like what???

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:28 3

19. Luuthian (Posts: 219; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


Noticed this too... Should say Android.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 07:54 2

47. Scott93274 (Posts: 1352; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


You mean to say that someone else actually read the article? lol.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:13 4

5. fzacek (Posts: 2206; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


Very well written article, Michael H...

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:15 3

6. Phonedingo (Posts: 174; Member since: 16 Aug 2014)


Great read.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:38 4

8. JMartin22 (Posts: 1245; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Finally, an intelligent article that doesn't like to gloss over the surface and takes an in-depth look at the facts and the state of affairs that concern the two platforms.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:46

12. gigaraga (Posts: 1381; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


TLDR. Although it looks like an interesting article. Just need more time~

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:52

14. nithyakr (Posts: 80; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)


ohhh!!.. I dont need Android Kitkat or Android L because I have the latest Google Play services !
(Sarcasm of course!)

"If you were to look at the Windows OS version adoption (or even MacOS for that matter) in a similar chart" ?? So its Ok to look at Android Through the lens of Desktop OS to justify the OS distribution Fragmentation.

We'll stick to mobile OSes for that matter. And Even MacOS is not fragmented like Android.
You can see that nearly 20% of users are still in Ginger bread and Developers must take extra effort to get their applications work on GB in the way that it works on Kitkat as well.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:59 1

16. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


I did think that was a very worthless argument as well... Why not compare it to WP when WP is the next most fragmented MOBILE OS out there?
......
There's not just two ways anymore.. We have the all in house approach of iOS, the middle of the road approach with WP, and the open approach with Android

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:11 5

27. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


For the most part, you really don't, nith. If you use Android you'll know that most new features that come to apps and services get pushed through the Play Store now. Granted, the core updates are still important, but they're not nearly as important as, say, iOS. For instance, Google Now gets updates all the time, while updates to Siri have to come through the OS. iOS updates happen quicker, but whether you're getting the update to the app separately or through the core system, it's the same difference.

Also, even though on iOS the version number may be the same across four devices, it doesn't mean all four devices are equal in experience. Apple cuts off features from old devices (sometimes for good reason, sometimes for bad reasons) so they don't lack fragmentation so much as disguise it as best they can.

posted on 26 Aug 2014, 23:55

15. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


This is a good article defending why Android, and iOS should be respected in their own rights because they are very different, and can't always be so directly compared....
................
So, Michele H.,,, are you going to do another article stating how WP is also different in it's own right? There are also many variables that separate WP as far as what it does well, and not so well... I'd like to see your unbiased opinion on that..
..........
Nevertheless, it's a good article, and I understand the point it gets across.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 07:39 1

46. tadaa (Posts: 257; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)


i don't think there is a need for an article like that as michael makes his point clear on the difference between OS'es. it just happened he used android as a variable, but i think his opinion on wp would likely be the same.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:15 1

18. HildyJ (Posts: 179; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Great article on the OS and apps but I would add one comment on the hardware vis-a-vis optimization - specs keep going up. Today's midrange device can compete, if not beat, last year's high end. Each quarter (month?) brings more powerful devices that make optimization far less important.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:34

20. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


True... I never thought about how they make optimization less, I wouldn't say important, but necessary... Good point!

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:42

22. WallStreetWolf (Posts: 86; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)


There is no better. We have a choice no matter how you split it. What works for you might not work for them due to a variety of mitigating circumstances.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 00:46 1

23. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 688; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Of course the data from 2010-2013 on the OS chart is relevant; it tells the story of how Android evolves and how that evolution has been shifting over the last four years. Seeing just the data from 2013 till now does not give you any idea of what's to come in a years time, which is necessary given the need for development and the ambition of market relevance of more than a few months...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:06 2

25. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Outstanding article. You effectively coalesced all of the counterarguments against people waving their arms and screaming "fragmentation!" without justification. The conclusion could have used a better "last line," I think, but that's essentially nitpicking. Unfortunately, I don't think this is going to change a lot of minds.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:41 3

28. D.Lamore (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


"Apple tried desperately to control the conversation and use many of the same Mac vs PC arguments to put down Android before it could get going. Unfortunately for Apple, history repeated itself and Android took over the ecosystem."
Android will still dominate in desktop in the near future

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:51

29. 13Elves (Posts: 93; Member since: 21 Feb 2014)


Well, perhaps schmidt shldnt have stolen it and tried to recreate the ios experience then. Google is 100% responisible for putting that concept into ppls minds.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 02:01 1

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yeah, except that isn't what happened. The only thing Google really tried to do the same as iOS was make a touchscreen centric device.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 01:56 2

30. D.Lamore (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


Imagine how backward the world would be in mobile technology and how costly smart phones would be if evil apple was allowed to control the market. If not android ,iphone 5c would cost about $1500 , imagine that . God bless Google

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:48

45. elitewolverine (Posts: 2068; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Because there was no other OS's out there offering 'cheap' phones...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 02:15

32. GJanee (Posts: 214; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)


do i smell hypocrisy? phonearena always tries to define wp and ios the same way as android. jussayin'...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 04:32 1

40. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


No, not really. The only way WP gets compared to anything is through market share/sales, which frankly suck. Otherwise its system characteristics are not compared to Android by Phonearena.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 02:54

34. SIGPRO (Posts: 507; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Well they both SUCK!

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 03:25 2

35. zaza991988 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


There is a mistake here. second Paragraph: "Amazon on the other hand, is designed to be able to run on a wide range of devices across price points and form factors". I think you mean "Android" right ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 04:25

39. LikeMyself (Posts: 302; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)


It starts a little before! Here: " because of WHAT the software/hardware relationship CAN afford. ANDROID, on the other... "

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 04:06 1

37. boosook (Posts: 1089; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Michael, this is a great article!!!

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 04:22 1

38. duartix (Posts: 111; Member since: 01 Apr 2014)


Excellent article.
Please disregard the comments from the DAD impaired who can't read two paragraphs of text.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:11

43. wreis (Posts: 17; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


Nice fundamentations i agree

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 14:36

48. chuongster (Posts: 33; Member since: 13 May 2012)


in for strong read

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 19:55

50. roscuthiii (Posts: 1873; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I always look forward to Michael H. contributions. While I may not always agree with him, it can't be argued that he doesn't do his homework and lay out the facts in depth.
He's done a great job stating why Android shouldn't be compared exactly with iOS, However... The title of the article is a question which isn't technically answered.
I'd like to address the rhetorical question of why we as a relatively intelligent demographic tend to do this.

Paraphrased - "[People] see [it] as [they] want to see [it] - in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions."

It's ingrained in the human condition. We simplify. We generalize. We boil things down to only that which revolves around us as the center of our own universes.
This causes polarity. Anything not In is by definition Out; the very basis of the Us & Them mentality. (Closer to Us vs Them really.)

While this can be wildly self-evident in broader and more emotionally charged topics like religion, politics, race, etc., technology doesn't escape this mindset unscathed. The duopolies that exist(ed) in tech are numerous, too numerous to list here... a whole new post would be needed. Even with all the 3rd party options that have been available in the tech space, they amount to little more than also-rans unless there comes a profound shift by the two primary place holders.

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