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Android is going to become more like Apple because that's what Google wants

0. phoneArena 08 Aug 2013, 14:47 posted on

I'm getting a little bit tired of the constant shouting by Android fans that nothing seems to matter aside from specs. The trouble I have with that argument is that it's based on old, busted logic. To me, it comes off just as silly as when Apple fans continue to claim that Android is laggy or buggy, because both arguments are based on platforms that don't exist anymore...

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posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:52 4

122. 14545 (Posts: 1667; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

That's my point. If my phone does have a hint of lag, WHO CAREs? Anymore it's not enough to even notice, but there isn't hardly anything that my phone can't do. Same can't be said for other OS's.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 20:26 2

138. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

This isn't 2010 anymore, having a flagship in 2013 that has lag on the UI is unacceptable.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 01:03

165. joey_sfb (Posts: 6453; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

If you get easily bored than wp8 will only last you for weeks. I have one and I don't know what to do with it except selling it for a lost. I asking my mom whether she want it.

Mistake..at least my Windows 7 PC I used it for game regularly.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:01 13

5. belovedson (Posts: 1045; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

well thank god for samsung.

the limitations set by apple is a huge reason why i cant stick to ios.

if samsung was the company to push new technology then who knows, we may not seen things like nfc, higher quality audio decoders, better cameras, ram, 1080p, etc. until much later or not at all.

think about that for a second

the day android becomes more and more like apple the more you will find people like me who is ready to abandon ship

tigen? firefox? ubunto? who knows. but this is sheer warning to google

many of us want top specs for the prices we have to pay.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:22 1

24. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

Well what he was getting at is lower price for the same experience, things like air gesture and multi-window NEED to be in android though. And you're giving Samsung more credit than they deserve, they weren't the first to do 1080, and what the hell do you mean by "ram"? Samsung is great but they aren't that great.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:28 15

27. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


what samsung gave

1st bluetooth 3.0 phone what i remember
1st phone to have 720 p and 1080 recording
1st phone to different screen(not normal lcd) some thing thats unique
1st hd phone(note 1)
1st phone with optical zoom
1st phone with bigger display (galaxy s and so on)
1st manufacturer who started trend of stylus
1st to brought tablet phone in the market
1st phone having low price tag(android at at its cheapest) "galaxy y"
when android brought wifi tethring at 2.2 i had galaxy s 2.1 it already had wifitethering but was to limited

everyone followed samsung

correct me if i am wrong

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:57 5

48. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

HTC HD2 had a 4.3" screen in 2009, a year before the Samsung Galaxy S and HTC Evolved 4G were released.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:02 3

51. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)

1st to brought tablet phone in the market

Ever heard of the "Dell Streak"?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:10 1

54. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Damn auto correct.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:24 1

74. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Dude. Read the article.

Performance matters. It's not a hardware thing. It's a hardware AND software thing. Android is now reaching a point where it's getting lean and efficient. With Key Lime Pie, low end Android devices should be lag-free. On Jelly Bean, mid-range devices run with few hiccups.

Throw on a brand new OS, and you'll be in early Android all over again: no number of cores will save you, no amount of RAM will stop the lag.

That's not to say that specs mean nothing, but that good software will run well on any hardware, to the point where octa-core CPUs shouldn't be necessary.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 23:42

158. luxzy801 (Posts: 140; Member since: 16 Jun 2010)

AMOLED: Nokia 2008
HD2: 4.3" 2009
Stylus, trendy since 2002
HTC 7500, first 5" Phablet circa 2007

There is more, i just cant think of it right now.
I think you got it the wrong way, its Samsung follows everybody, along with every other manufacturer these days... Damn, I sound old LOL

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 00:00

160. justsayit (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 May 2013)

1st phone having low price tag(android at at its cheapest) "galaxy y"
what the hell???
samsung phone always has
high price but with very-very-low-end spec
most in low-end phone and mig-ranger phone
i havent see a samsung phone has nice price tag and good spec for the price

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 01:18

167. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 146; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

Samsung was the first to have an amoled screen with a touch sensitive layer...nokia ones werent touchscreen..

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 01:40

168. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

lol I meanr dor starting trwnd

I think that time note 1 was existing

what I remember

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 06:30

180. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)

Sorry but you are wrong. Withouth Apple, Samsung would still make mobile phones which would look like a brick. Without Googles "stolen product" Samsung would be making bada phones.

None in your list were NOT Samsung 1st. Shamesung is just good at copying and lying. Just like HTC with "ultrapixel" camera and "haac mic" and HTC One "design.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 08:51

189. joey_sfb (Posts: 6453; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Yup! would be great if HTC make HD2 with a battery that would last a full day. My friend has it he has to trade it in for another phone as the battery could not last more than 5 hours under normal usage /wo using 3G data.

Make me wonder whether HTC Official or quality control bother to check before releasing the phone.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 09:18

190. Fernandezxc (Posts: 43; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)

without android everything u have said would not have happened

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:03 2

6. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 209; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)

The specs war does happen to be petty. They should focus on the performance.

I mean, there is no lag on WP8 or iOS, and yet the specs are inferior. Both OSes manage batteries better too

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:06 4

9. belovedson (Posts: 1045; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

its been written and rewritten that android is a resource hog. why you guys cant spend 2-3 minutes to read and reread the same issue about android is beyond me

wp8 ios is not heavy. ios is essentially a app drawer and cant multitask. windows needs more time for maturity but at present it sucks. i feel like i was using a beta like eclair or somethi g

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:11 6

16. Credo (Posts: 749; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

Indeed, i love the Xperia Z, my friend owns one, but that battery is very poor .... 1 game for 1 hour and it's battery is dying ...


posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:25 2

77. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Flexible resource hog > walled garden any day.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 06:42

182. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)

WP phones do not have a good battery so that is not true.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:05 14

8. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Unfortunately, and I'm calling this now, you're still going to get jerks who clearly had their eyes closed throughout the article saying "yes, Michael, but the S4 is clearly superior to the Moto X because of its 1080p screen and quad core processor! And the Moto X is overpriced and will fail, because based on the iPhone 5's sales, people clearly won't pay 200 dollars for a phone if it only has a dual core proce-oh wait. Crap."

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:08 2

11. belovedson (Posts: 1045; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

exactly and we need journalist who side for the people instead of companies.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:52 8

43. BadAssAbe (Posts: 461; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)

The s4 is better than than the moto X because of
Stronger Gorilla Glass 3
Bigger screen
IR blaster
Better screen to phone ratio
Best phone camera ( proven)
Glove usable screen

And some better specs like ram, cpu, little stuff

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:57

47. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I couldn't call either one of them the best.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:21 2

69. javac (Posts: 102; Member since: 04 Mar 2013)

Really dude? Android is destroying the competition right now and you still think apple is the hottest thing since sliced bread? look at the sales there is a reason why all apple is on the decline

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:25 1

78. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

So is it the HTC One then? Or perhaps the pure stock Android goodness of the Nexus 4?

Maybe you've taken a liking to the new Lumias?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:31

86. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

So with that logic, the note 3 will be superior to the S4 for the same reasons right?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:27 1

114. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

Bigger screen doesn't mean better, and I'm pretty sure the Moto X has a better screen ratio than the S4. The S4 doesn't have the best phone camera, that definitely goes to the 1020. You can probably use gloves with the screen, hell...they have been selling gloves you can use with touchscreens for a while.

They have the same amount of ram.....so you might be stupid.
CPU, the S4 and and HTC One definitely have faster processors....but Samsung also loads a bunch of bloatware (Touchwiz) that slows down their phones. The active display implements seem cooler on the Moto X than how Samsung implemented them.

All in all, you don't know what you're talking about and are a Samsung fanboy.

With that said, I still won't be getting the Moto X for a few reasons.
1.) Not coming with triband LTE on Sprint
2.) The Moto maker is stupidly only available on AT&T for now. I'm not waiting till November
3.) They're asking too much for those specs, at 99 I think they would have great price. The specs might not make a real world difference (except for phones with the new snapdragon 800...due to the adreno 330), but they do make the phone cheaper, so the price for the consumer should be reflected in that.

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