Android has not "developed to expectations" says Michael Dell
0. phoneArena 13 Oct 2011, 16:04 posted on
Speaking at Dell World, Michael Dell pledged support for Windows and Microsoft and blamed the poor showing of the Dell Aero and Dell Streak on Android instead of blaming the hardware; another Dell executive said that the pair were launched in limited quantities anyway, to gauge customer reaction...
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56. chris da computa guy (unregistered)
I LOVED THAT LINE.... I couldn't stop laughing... it was priceless... LOVED IT!!!
2. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
this reminds me of wile e. coyote sulking back to the drawing board.
3. effzee (unregistered)
if I could thumbs up #1 I would!!!
4. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
What a dumbass blaming android. Its your inferior products. Other android phones sell quite well.
38. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Dell is not winning because it's not trying,compared with others they have a small product line they can't even backup properly
66. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
My question is What expectations did they have of android. I agree that they havent really tried that hard in their android lineup releasing some really s**tty products. The Streak's 5inch screen was cool for a phone but not for a tablet. I dont even know what that thing was phone or tablet. It was targeted to a small customer niche. Not to mention its problems it had like having donut. Really. They are blaming android for that. What due they expect android wont save the fact you messed up so badly.
5. toaster (Posts: 114; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
Face it, the Streak sucked.
It was stuck on Donut until very recently. WVGA resolution is a major no-no on a 5-in screen, and what is with the battery? Not just the life, but how it would shut off if you laid it flat, and only a battery pull could coax life out of it.
None of those are Google's issue.
68. paynekiller (Posts: 139; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I remember how many people were saying about how the EVO 4G was going to be garbage once the Dell Streak was outed.. how did that turn out?
28. Dennis12 (unregistered)
Man ur really thankful he died? Dude these r jus phones man,and he,and apple started this technology race that ur calling locked down. Wowww man,and jus so u know I love android,and iOS. Thankful he died? I hope that was jus talk...
34. sniperace (Posts: 95; Member since: 20 Aug 2009)
If it wasn't for the Iphone we may not have the adroid phones we all know and love today. It was the iphone that origanaly opened peoples eyes to what a smart phone should be. Back when people were walking around with flip phones and PDA's when most blackberrys didn't even have a camera and windows 6 was the best you could get...how many apps were you downloading then? Thank you Steve Jobs and Apple for changing the game...without you my Galaxy SII may not have been possible.. 1 love.
32. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Dude you were doing great until you said "thank god Jobs has finally died"
No, no, and no. That was wrong, nobody should be happy when someone dies. I don't care if you are pro android or pro apple, nobody should celebrate and be happy for somebody dying. Be happen he retired, be happy he got fired, but not died.
9. pyrothrax (unregistered)
and then when you expected the iPhone 5, practically orgasmically waiting for it to be rolled out last oct 7th... then all yah got is a 4S.... it slaps right back at you.....hahahahahahahha
23. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
So wait, you're trusting the word of a guy who at one point said he'd liquidate Apple and give investors their money back?
Michael Dell's company is okay at producing cheap machines that run well for a year or two, but he has a history of talking out his ass.
36. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Dell is a joke, even their wp line will fail because they put no effort on their smarphones. But he should ask samsung and HTC see what they think
77. saiki4116 (Posts: 379; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
they sell laptops like peanuts................
27. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
So you are talking the word of this idiot, the guy who runs Dell. Has DELL ever released one single popular high end android(or Windows phone for that matter)? No, didn't think so.
If this was coming from Samsung, HTC, or Motorola then yes laugh away. But Dell has never released one popular phone period.
30. Stuntman (Posts: 835; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
The truth is HTC and Samsung are making a lot of money because of Android and the fact these companies make good devices. Dell is not successful because they make poor devices in spite of using Android. I still see people using the HTC Dream which is the first ever Android powered phone. Dell has no excuse but themselves.
45. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Motorola Droid, huge success due to good specs at the time and good marketing. HTC EVO, huge success for the same reasons. SGS2, huge success for the same reasons as above. Is the picture becoming clear Mr. Dell?
Motorola, HTC, and Samsung have all had huge success thanks to Android. In fact it was Android that saved Motorola from going down.
The big three have all had huge success and their best sales thanks to Android.
40. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
When a valid argument has failed to be produced all what's left its going for the fanboys
46. gtrxman (Posts: 122; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
And I suppose that his loss of market share in PC's and Laptops is because of Windows...
8. snowgator (Posts: 3556; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Pretty easy blaming Android. A lot better than those pesky facts that your devices were buggy and unpolished.
10. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Dell computers and tablets are not selling as expected, next time Mike will blame on Microsoft 8 Dell tablets for poor selling. Dell need to improve on hardware not on Android OS Google is improving every day.
11. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Let's put a crappy 5 inch "tablet" running only a 1GHz processor with android 1.6 while phones are running 2.2 and not advertise it at all, make it way over priced and then when it fails, blame it on Android.
LOL yea good one.
12. speed4evr (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I believe failed with the Dell Streak, took forever on software update and couldnt compete with other Android devices. They blame the Android Ecosystem for the Streak's failure. Many Android devices were successful at the beginning like Original Moto Droid & Nexus One, Dell didnt properly market & maintain the device. Current Gingerbread devices are cream of the crop and very user friendly/reliable. I also think for devices to be successful in the US they need strong carrier advertising. Thats my 2 cents on mr dell's comments.
13. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
I stoped reading when the article said "...says Michael Dell"
15. speed4evr (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Yes lol. I agree, unfortunately the part Android has not "developed to expectations" caught my attention. Im computer/phone nerd so most technology/os articles grab my attention.
14. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)
Dell. Yep that's the joke and punchline all in one...
17. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
make some better sh*it next time you as*wipes
35. sniperace (Posts: 95; Member since: 20 Aug 2009)
Brutal straight to the point ...I love it !!! lmao!!
18. bossmt_2 (Posts: 449; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
I love my Dell PC and Laptop, but their smartphones suck. Dell needs to get with the times,
19. Chip (unregistered)
DUMMY STATEMENT OF THE DAY:" Michael Dell said that Android has not "developed to expectations". HE NEEDS TO EDUCATE HIMSELF ON ANDROID....ANDROID SELLS 576,900 UNITS A DAY....WHATS DELLS EXCUSE FOR MAKING SORRY ANDROID PHONES NOBODY WANTS....
21. joe45 (unregistered)
I used to work for Dell computer as a travel tech lemme tell u Dell..your sale team are morons and sell up EVERYTHING to your customers which ISNT true..I fixed all your sales teams screw ups!
25. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
So Taco, will you be another one to trust the word of the guy who said that were he given control of Apple he'd liquidate it and give money back to investors?
41. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I think you blew a fuse. You know what helps? A life
24. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
Dell reminds me of Acer a while ago. Why do these weak OEM's blame Android when they fail to make captivating Android gadgets? You don't hear Samsung or HTC complaining, even though they are paying a lot of money to Microsoft for using Android. But they have been making the most successful Android products.
It's amazing that Dell and Acer throw their weight behind WP7 and choose to ditch Android. ZTE, Samsung and HTC have found ways to make both Android and WP7 profitable for them. It's time Dell did the same.
26. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It doesn't surprise me that Michael Dell would say something so entirely f**king stupid.
Funny thing: my manager and another guy were just talking about the Streak today and laughing at what a piece of s**t it was. They said a ton sold at first, but they were returned because they sucked so badly.
33. biophone (Posts: 1910; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its makes sense though. He is not going to admit how much crap the streak was so was else is there to blame. bingo.
29. Mozarrt (Posts: 301; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
The Dell Venue Pro is a pretty good phone, just had some bugs. I think Windows Phone is the way forward for them.
31. stupidodello (unregistered)
I think Michael Dell better disband DELL and give back the shareholder money back.
37. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
lol, Dell products, in general are poor - my last HP computer lasted 5 years....
43. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Leave android then? one crappy manufacturer that leaves space for someone good to have building android phones and tabs
44. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
With all the money Dell has made over the years, you would think they could afford to straighten up the "E" in DELL rather than leaving it lean to the right. If they're not into perfecting their product, I'm not going to buy it. :)
48. Libra501 (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
i dont know why all fandroid crying like this.
49. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
We're laughing, laughing at the moron who said this ridiculous thing about Android.
57. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Good question libra501. You must be new to PA. They ALWAYS cry like this.
50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
He's right that android leads to bad customer experiences. This is the beginning of androids decline in market share. A lot of manufacturers will be switching to windows. It's a more stable platform with better support. Also they won't have to worry about lawsuits since windows actually came up with their own look and feel instead of copying iOS.
58. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Aside from dell and acer? Who are this all manufacturers, also what on android causes customers to be unsatisfied? Slow updates? That's manufacturer to blame little bug quashed? also manufacturer to blame. Ms is not in charge of dell to provide better support. Look how little issues nexus phones have, al so why you said ms is not copying? Metro UI? Aside from thaf what's not taken from other OS's?
61. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's the point UI is different. Dumb fandroids claim copying on things like ota updates and voice controls. These are features that have been around forever. It's like saying android is copying because they have a web browser. It's how you implement the feature that should be unique.
You don't have to believe me, but you will see that with iOS 5, more iPhones on more carriers, manufacturer dissatisifaction with android and the resurgence of Microsoft, android will take a dive.
63. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I don't think it will go away, yes some manufactures will leave but those are the one's that have not achieved any sales. They will try and see if they will become important on Another os just to fail to the big players. Making a smarphones with a partner is 50-50 work you can't expect google to solve the issues your overlay caused to the os, android will have people migrating to manufacturers that are doing a better job at it and circle repeats over and . Yes android will not have a gigantic market share but they won't be chucked away And not by ios5 and mango. Also seriously I used an iPhone and my friends have iPhone and why do I fail to see they are a copy? Android feels completely different than ios.
78. Axial (unregistered)
Taco50 is actually making some valid observations here.
I wouldn't necessarily agree that Android leads to bad customer experience. Most people (average Joe with a smartphone) who use Android have it as their first smartphone and thus do not know what the Apple or Microsoft experiences are like, so they can't make an assessment and are perfectly fine with what they have.
However, Microsoft has been working in the dark to undermine Android, and with the licensing deals as well as the new marketing push, they might just succeed in stealing market share away from the same.
Also, you can't tell me that iOS or Android invented notifications, touch screen interfaces, web browsers, media players, etc. Those are all very generic elements that any OS can incorporate. All operating systems borrow ideas from one another, period.
As for Michael Dell's intelligence, that has nothing to do with this. It's his marketing team to blame here. They try to go it alone and sell all of their devices by themselves. Who here honestly goes to Dell's website to look at phones? I don't. I browse their Alienware lineup (which has improved vastly since 2006) and their Ultrasharp monitors, but never think about Dell phones and tablets. They need to make carrier agreements and sell through additional channels. They also need to advertise. Advertisement is key. It's the same reason why WP7 hasn't taken off as hoped and why iOS devices are doing exceedingly well.
51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm sure fandroids think they're smarter than Michael Dell. He runs a successful company and is rich. What are you guys doing?
53. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
just because a company is successful doesnt mean everything they shyt is gold. go pick up a streak and tell me its a top notch tablet