Android (and its apps) - that's the best thing about the Nokia X according to a recent poll
0. phoneArena 21 Mar 2014, 23:59 posted on
The Nokia X is a very affordable smartphone, and most customers seem to really appreciate the fact that it can run Android applications...
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1. mayur007 (Posts: 440; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
yap i find this only and only thing in nokia x but still this phone doesnt tempts me ..
4. sam_tek (Posts: 89; Member since: 18 Feb 2011)
wait a sec, i thought google play services aren't availble for Nokia X ! its not really google android just like kindle fires aren't google androids either! am I missing something?
7. sgodsell (Posts: 1293; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Nokia X is just using the Android name. Meanwhile it has no regular Google services or apps. In fact even Steven Elop stated that Nokia X is being used to help bring users over to Microsoft's services and apps. Then later on upgrade them to WP. That's what was said on a video. So if you want a regular Android device, then don't buy any nokia X device.
8. sam_tek (Posts: 89; Member since: 18 Feb 2011)
Precisely my point! then why is PA talking about android? why is nokia talking about android? and why are we all talking about android on this topic. It's not a "google" android people! And if it ain't a google android, it might as well be a WP or any other OS for that matter, as it won't have any of the cool things we all have come to love about the OS in the first place!!
For me, it's just a marketing ploy to leech on "Google" Android's goodness! Nokia X being android is getting ridiculous!
13. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 973; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
you can root it and une duex troi google services !
18. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"For me, it's just a marketing ploy to leech on "Google" Android's goodness! Nokia X being android is getting ridiculous!"
You just answered your own question with your post.....the Nokia X isnt Google's Android....its just Android. Just like the Kindle and the Nook ( the Nook just recently added the Play Store....but the point still stands it was considered an Android e Reader when it launched)
23. sgodsell (Posts: 1293; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Microsoft and Nokia are using the Android name. Think about it. Android is expected to sell a billion Android smartphones this year alone (2014). That's before Microsoft and Nokia released the Nokia X line of devices. WP is expected to sell only 40-45 million smart phones for the same time frame in 2014. That isn't even 1/20th of Android. Microsoft's is worried when it comes to those new Android users which won't be using Microsoft apps and services. That's why Microsoft and Nokia released the Nokia X line of devices with only Microsoft's apps and services. Microsoft is truly scared that the majority of Android users would realize that they can get on in life without ANY Microsoft services and apps, that's Microsoft's real fear.
37. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I agree. MS is trying to get back what they lost to the iPhone and Android.
I thought I would never see the day BB devices near the bottom and on the brink of disappearing.... WP might be in the same boat if they dont turn it around.
33. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1100; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
if it runs Android Apps it's Android. other products run Android open source operating systems. in China Android open source is popular and guess what no google Play store there. I have studied the rooting procedure and the procedure to put Google stuff including Google play store on a Nokia X phone plus keep the Nokia and Microsoft apps if you wish. it's not that hard but the question is how many people will go through the procedure's to do these thing
22. Awalker (Posts: 440; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Many cheap Android phones don't have Google Play services and people still have access to Android apps. There's third party app stores that offer Android apps and you can sideload any Android app including Google Play services.
14. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
A fork of Android can still run Android apps....some , maybe most. Can Android apps run on iOS or WP? Run natively with side loading and not installing some emulator?
Go look up the Kindle or the Nook. Read article about it.....its always referenced as an Android device. The Kindle is included in Android tablet market share totals. Go to Walmart, target and see all those low quality Android tablets with no official Google Play Store...they are still Android tablets.
Why is it all of a sudden a problem for the Nokia X is too?
17. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The Nokia X hasnt been added to Wikipedia yet tho....dont worry it will be soon
20. boosook (Posts: 1037; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
People just don't know it. So many users will buy it and will then discover that they have no gmail, no google maps, no google search, now, drive, plus etc, no integration between the apps and so on. Some users will be able to root it and install the google apps, but the majority will, maybe, switch to Nokia/Microsot services (at least, this is what they're hoping).
24. FadyNabil (Posts: 37; Member since: 10 May 2013)
Nokia doesn't say that this is android,
In the official page, the OS is NOkia X Platform.
However you can sideload android apps.
39. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I see...interesting. Perception is reality in some cases tho. If enough articles mention it running Android....it wont matter what Nokia calls it.
I wonder why Amazon or Barnes n Noble never did that..... Even tho the OS is called Fire OS on the Kindle.....it says it starts with Android and adds on other features.
Cant tell about the Nook because now it comes with Google Play.
2. lyndon420 (Posts: 1769; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Best of both worlds? Sorry...but I see only one world with a competitor trying to live in it because their 'own' world is too depressing.
19. Finalflash (Posts: 1805; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Its a sad day for MS, people won't be buying their WP after this because they bought this for Android on Nokia, anyone who buys this thinking they'll have Google services and not having them will then just lose faith in Nokia and likely return it. You can't force people to like your services by sneaky underhanded methods, you have to make it good so they want to use it.
34. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1100; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Yoo friend we do not know if Microsoft will keep the Xphones once it takes over Nokia I suspect they will. Please take note that Samsung, HTC and others have sold both Android smart phones and Windows smart phones and are still alive and doing so today. Microsoft will not sell any of the 3 Nokia X phones in the USA or developed rich markets. Microsoft could sell an Nokia distribution Android smart phone based on it's Lumia 920 and make a hell of a lot of money here in the states Folks Microsoft is now a devices and services Corporation to be good at this Microsoft has to sell Products for many different customers and that includes Android customers. the X phones wont be popular in the USA but over seas that is a different story folks
3. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3421; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
AOSP should be limited to just Open handset alliance and Dev community. Rest of them dont deserve.
12. whatsa (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
So you're saying google cannot use it.
Googles version is only available if you kiss googles behind
and get legally locked into their eco-system.
Hence why Samsung did Tizen....
If you really feel that way about open source you should be supporting
Mer / sailfish / tizen ubuntu.
Thats where google stole their stuff from...
So they deserve the same treatment....
And come on Droid fans are more open minded I would expect this from apple devotees but not droidites.
21. Liveitup (Posts: 1349; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Droids are the new Apple devotees, WP is the new Droid. Many Android fans are like Apple fans of the 2007-2012 era.
Android is now dominant and even within that community certain OEM's and OS skin takes preference. They don't want to see others come up. They went from being hated on to being haters.
41. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
the truth that wp is failing at no one has intrest in it
26. AfterShock (Posts: 2812; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Why would droidfans hate on something like your wp?
It doesn't compete on any scale I can think of, droid expect to sell a billion, wp 40-45 million.
Services are a non compete, googles are heavily more desired by the world then wp.
Its open to many OEM, so huge handset choice as well as price point, wp is Nokia pretty much.
Wp is trying to ride droid coat tails, but its so fat an useless, it can't even do that well.
Droid dominant, for many good reasons, its better is the main one.
Wp folk are bitter.
27. AfterShock (Posts: 2812; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
For the record, I despise the idiotic wp fans.
They ruin the underdog status by claiming victory and its the best at every step.
I look forward to wp growth, but not its shills.
About wp being all that, its not and we simply all know that contrary to shills an them souring the path forward with bs like the ones above my post.
This article must have hurt them..wp phone is hacked to get away from, yup you got it wp.
28. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3421; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Bro you nailed it. I stand by you 100%
40. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
WP cant be the new Droid....because Android rose towards the top in 2 years.
Its going on 4 for WP.....and its still battling BB for 3rd, 4th place....a distant 3rd, 4th place.
Seriously.....every thing has fans. Watching the NCAA tournament now. Some fans are just more irritating than others. What I will say tho is I will take Fandroids, WP fanatics over iFans anyday.
5. ihavenoname (Posts: 1442; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
+Nice, colorful design
+Nokias own apps
-Low-end phone=bad specs overall, processor, display, camera etc.
-Lack of Google Play
-Lack of Google Apps
-UI looks oversimplistic
16. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3421; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Yeah nokia making android ugly like windows phone 8.
10. nlbates66 (Posts: 303; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
kind of dubious poll to be honest, android apps as opposed to what exactly? It RUNS android apps and not any other sort of app. Would an iOS device or Windows phone device poll even have an option for Android apps? no? Would a poll about an Android device have an option of Windows phone apps? no.
15. jroc74 (Posts: 4966; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I take it you didnt even look at the poll results?
It runs Nokia and Microsoft apps....too. Android apps is just the bigger factor for those that took the poll.
31. nlbates66 (Posts: 303; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
the Microsoft apps as restricted an app set, they're simply a subset of apps that happen to be made by Microsoft, and happen to be available on Android itself, Windows phone and for some probably iOS too, the likes of Skype etc. Note that the Nokia apps(here maps etc), which are NOT available on as many other platforms (not even on android), got almost as many votes
29. Aplusk (Posts: 105; Member since: 10 Nov 2013)
32. kindlefireowner (Posts: 408; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Everyday the Fandroids who comment on this page remind me of those crazy skinheads or radical Muslims when they defend Android. It's just a phone.
35. corporateJP (Posts: 1580; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Get me an XL imported to the United States, then we're good....
38. PBXtech (Posts: 980; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Textbook irony, the #1 voted thing that makes MS' new phones great is Google (Android).
I really wish MS and Google could just get along. Together they could do some outstanding things.
44. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3421; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Android far superior than anything else.
45. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
agree and ubuntu and maeemo sailfish meego linux on these platforms you are free to command script unlike w8 you cant or any other platform
why compromise Android
46. Liveitup (Posts: 1349; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
@Aftershock You can write ignorance and then attempt to pass it off as legitimate, let me counter your points:
In regards to Android selling a billion + and WP selling 45 million of course that is the case Android has way more OEM's Making many more Android devices than there are WP. WP primarily has Nokia, who by the way was in really bad shape when they adopted WP its only with WP they are growing so much so to become the fastest growing OS in the world hitting double digits in many countries. Its not a fair fight anyhow you look besides Android and iOS got a headstart in modern mobile over WP.
Additionally Android has more carrier support, more carrier employee support, Android growth also tems from the fact that Android is a Free OS and cheaper to produce than WP whereas WP had licensing, thus looking more3 attractive to OEM's from a price standpoint etc those circumstances made android growth explode. Android sales are not necessarily a reflection of Android quality its more a reflection of Android quantity via flooding the market with devices. Android and WP are not playing on a level playing field don't depict it as such.
You said services are a non compete, Word, excel, office, Skype, Xbox, Outlook, Windows,Onedrive are all some of the most popular products and services in the world, don't let ignorance get the best of you Microsoft has one of the most popular ecosystem. With Microsoft making WP licensing fees now as cheap and in some cases even cheaper to produce than Android expect more OEM's to jump on board with WP and take advantage of those products and services.
You said WP is fat and useless yet it is the OS that changed design language from skeuomorphism to flat UI. Majority Consumers who uses it loves , take a look at consumers feedbacks and user satisfaction surveys prove that, WP gets called out for app gap, the OS gets rave reviews.
You haters bash While Android has gone WP flat like WP, it has been going flat since ICS 4.0, it even has the WP three dot menu among others things, HTC blinkfeed looks like a dead knockoff of Live Tiles, Xperia Z line music hub is a major ripoff of WP music hub, Samsung Hub also looks Metro. The full screen immersive mode found in Android is taken from WP. The full lockscreen album art in Android is copied from WP, Samsung Magazine UX and the fact that Touchwiz especially in GS5 is looking quite like Metrowiz, Android and iots various OEM skins having menu popping out of the bottom of screen WP did it first, the focus on clean
on simplicity and less bloat, that is due to WP influence. WP did it while and Android rocked the faux leather look in its Gingerbread era, people don't copy a fat and useless OS people, copy things they admire .
I despise idiotic Android fans, the next WP article is going to have the same haters, look for it, yet they got the nerves to
47. Liveitup (Posts: 1349; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Hate on WP, im not always online like some of these Android shills are, sometimes I can't reply in a timely manner but ill reply to the haters who don't see the bigger picture of Android and how it got to where it is today, they call people shill but look at the same Android fans hating on WP in the next WP related or Nokia X article, such irony.
48. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1100; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
folks Windows phone 7 came out in 2010 and was replaced by Windows phone 8 in 2012. therefore Windows phone 8 is a 2 year old OS. the first Android smart phone came out in 2008 so it's a 4 year old OS. I expect Android smart phones to have more features and apps than a 2 year old OS. Windows smart phone owners are aware of these facts but prefer Windows smart phones over Android smart phones for their own reasons. Windows Phone 8 is to be superseded by in a few months by Windows Phone 8.1 giving Windows phone 8 users who upgrade to it new capabilities. Android and Apple Iphone smart phones fans and trolls seem to want the world to be all their way well guess what it is not going to be that way especially since Microsoft bought up most of Nokia smart phone making assets and can make their OWN smart phones. IN the end Windows smart phonbe in another year and half wiil have 95% of androids features and all smart phones will be equal and give buyers a lot of choices which is good for all
49. JMartin22 (Posts: 1221; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Kind of sad when the best thing about Microsoft's Nokia product is the competition.