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Analyst thinks BlackBerry 10 is nothing but "a gambit intended to facilitate a sale of RIM"

0. phoneArena 23 Jan 2013, 20:27 posted on

It feels like we just keep going in circles with RIM and BlackBerry 10. For a while, it seems like RIM is on the verge of selling the company to anyone who shows the least bit of interest, then RIM looks confident looking to the future, and back again. Now, in light of RIM CEO Thorsten Heins' new comments, it has swung the analysts thoughts all the way to the idea that BlackBerry 10 is nothing but "a gambit intended to facilitate a sale of RIM"...

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posted on 23 Jan 2013, 20:32 3

1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5279; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I would agree - nothing like trying to pump the share price going into sale negotiations.

But who would be the buyer?

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 22:18

9. Bernoulli (Posts: 1396; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Not Nokia

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 00:48 1

13. jsdechavez (Posts: 676; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Microsoft and Nokia maybe..

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 01:47

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5279; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


For what reason? The patent portfolio could be picked up via an asset sale. Buying the company brings all manner of headaches (hardware division chief among the headaches).

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 08:51

29. BB.real.pppooorrr (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


Both Nokia and RIM will die soon.... it's natural nokia would not buy BB, buying BB will accelerate the death of Nokia

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:40 3

17. BB10.Dee.AD (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


RIM clearly don't understand their situation at all.

IF RIM, the MASTER of QWERTY/BBM can't survive in their own game, who can play RIM card and survive?.... In other world, RIM is TOTALLY JUNK.

Whoever who buy RIM will be like HP/PALM!!!!!!!!!.

I think RIM would be better to return the investor money, and disband the company

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:42

31. jroc74 (Posts: 3959; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Google or MS.

They both could take RIM hardware and do something with it. They both could take BBM and do something with it.

Apple would only do something with the software.

posted on 29 Jan 2013, 12:15

34. frmrVZguy (Posts: 34; Member since: 10 Mar 2012)


BB Z10 looks a LOT like Motorola-DROID-X2_id5235 (use this as a search term)
and implies a tie-up of some kind. But since BB hardware is effectively an "accessory" to the service, it seems that a tie-up with MOTOROLA expertise with high security communications might be the way to out-source a waning hardware business as the software is developed to "piggyback" on other OSes

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 20:35 4

2. Jphones (Posts: 230; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


like I said before rim just needs to stop it BB10 may look promising but is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to far behind everybody else. They won't be able to endure long enough to see their market share climb above abysmal

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 20:40 7

3. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


ITS GETTING CLOSE TO LAUNCH DATE..............DONT LET THEM PERSUADE YOU RIM! YOU ARE DOING GOOD

(sorry for caps)

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 21:49 2

7. MC1123 (Posts: 1220; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


totally agree... as far as i know, people will just talk and write s**ts if they are jealous coz they know someone (in this case something) is far more better than they are(lets say in their bias platform)!

coz clearly BB was made for business and that BB Balance is one the best! apple cant do that, and even android phones...

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:43 3

18. BB10.Dee.AD (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


You need to undertand this..

RIGHT NOW, in the US, UK, Europe, Australia, Singapore, HK.... ALL THE POWER USER & RICH user already moved away into Android & Apple (AA). Once you gone into AA, you won't go back into BB.

The one that use BB right now is ALL THE POOR that CAN'T AFFORD good smartphone. This poor soul WON'T BUY BB10 Product. If they were able to afford BB10, they WILL use AA instead..

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 07:45 1

24. Valdomero (Posts: 120; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


Let me correct you, there are many cheap Android phones out there, so don't say you have an Android phone because you're wealthy because that's not true.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 08:49

27. BB.real.pppooorrr (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


let me be the one to correct you.

It is true that Android have so many cheap phone. Android user is from rich to poor.

but BB user RIGHT NOW is considered lame. non-smartphone user who only do BBM. 99% of BB user right now buy BB because of BBM.

LAME!!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 08:28

25. jsdechavez (Posts: 676; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Yup, haters like to see you down.

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 21:06 8

4. rusticguy (Posts: 2810; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Who cares really what analysts think? They are most of the time PAID to think a given way ...

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:52 6

23. BB.WP.don.fight (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


Yes, mostly were paid by Microsoft to make WP looks attractive
Even iPhoneArena also does it.

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 21:33 1

5. Johnnokia (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 May 2012)


I don't exactly know why the other companies are interested in buying RIM if they are going to kill the brand name .. Are they interested in their patents ??!!.
For instance, what HP did when they acquired Palm?
No thing, just produced the epic fail TouchPad and HP Veer, and then they killed WebOS.

I love BB and feel sad to this story.

Who have a clear idea about this issue, I wanna know please ?

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 21:58 2

8. MC1123 (Posts: 1220; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


analyst dont know a thing.. they just keep on talking s**t! no one can predict what will happen to the future!

this is one of the worst jobs in the world (the other one being a paparazzi)!

HP bought palm for they think webOS is really futuristic, and all people think of that as well! but HP has a very bad leadership! bad CEO thats why they are going down now! (same as nokia, very very bad CEO, MeeGo was the future, they are just afraid to see that)

also same as google motorola, motorola dont make a buzz after they are bought by google, but i hope that will change this year!

unlike the situation of RIM and BB, they have the almost perfect combination... they have good leadership and good CEO, coz the past CEO before still think touchscreen and iphones are just toys and its platform will be just fine..but CEO Heins change that with BB10..

they also have huge support to the devs.. i mean 70,000 apps at launch?! thats amazing! and they will reach 100,000 apps in no time! they might achieve that in less than a year, unlike WP, they just got the 100,000 apps after 2 years!

so again, alalyst talk s**ts... and clearly this writer dont shock me about writing this things since he always write bad things for BB and RIM image... sad story that forbes still accept him!

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 22:33 2

10. Johnnokia (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Thank you so much for your answer.
You are right, I hope Nokia will kick Stephan Flop ASAP.
Nokia is a great company and capable of producing amazing devices.
I don't know why they did not produce their own operating system yet !.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 00:31

12. Edmund (Posts: 645; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


The top Analyst firms are pretty good at what they do, trust me. You're thinking of credit rating agencies like moody's, Fitch, DBRS, and Standard & poors, who spend most of their time bending over for wall street.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:48

33. jroc74 (Posts: 3959; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


As for Motorola after Google bought them...Motorola phones are always one of the best selling phones on Verizon.

Motorola isnt the same as Palm. Nobody was buying Palm anymore...I kinda see that happening with BB...and WP to a certain extent. Nokia right now is saving WP.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 08:50

28. BB.real.pppooorrr (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


I agree with you. I don't understand it either. Most of BB patent is around BBM and push email.

For push email, Google, apple, Microsoft also have patent around it.

For BBM, there were what's app, GoogleChat, Apple iMessage, Skype, etc.

So, I really think BB patent WORTH NOTHING. RIM is surely lazy, they don't have anything good.

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 21:41 2

6. faisolbauuz (Posts: 121; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)


Well yeah i dont see anything new from BB10 the swipe ui is a copy from nokia n9 and the hardware cannot beat the 2013 android flagship RIM need to do some big moves here

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 00:23 2

11. Edmund (Posts: 645; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


RIM is run by a bunch of idiots. Rather than just adopt Windows Phone and license out Blackberry Messenger/Mail (like Nokia are doing with Drive) they chose to be stubborn and develop a fourth platform that nobody really wants, including the business and government sectors.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 04:02

16. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


A platform that no one wants. That's a stupid statement. There are too many around waiting to switch to BB10 when it arrives.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:45

32. jroc74 (Posts: 3959; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I wouldnt say no one wanted it.....but its almost a niche market for them now. I remember these same posts in Palm articles....

I like what I see from BB10.....I hope it can survive....

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:45 6

19. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


And everybody wants Windows Phone...............YEAH RIGHT!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:51 2

22. BB.WP.don.fight (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


AGREE!!!
NO ONE WANTS WINDOWS PHONE
NO ONE WANTS BLACK BERRY

BB should pick Android, and focusing on messaging (their strong point)
RIM is not a company that were on the level fighting on OS level.

Let's the real company (google/android) do the OS for RIM

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:50 3

21. BB.WP.don.fight (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


RIM user and WP user should not fight among each other
both were death platform
and the fight is like girl fight over nothing....

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 01:10

14. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


RIM needs to make a true Keybroad SmartPhone, kinda like the OG Droid but better with their own twist. Most Blackberrys had a keyboard, why remove their key difference?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 05:46 4

20. BB10.Dee.AD (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


Because....

ALL THE EXPENSIVE.... (READ: GOOD PROFIT) don't have keyboard.
REASON: because the user who want to buy expensive device want LARGE SCREEN.

So, who bought QWERTY based BB style phone?? It's the non-smartphone user. The dumb-phone/feature-phone user. The one that won't buy expensive phone.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 08:30

26. jsdechavez (Posts: 676; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Make Sony Ericsson P series phone wannabe.. You know, the one with the full touchscreen but with the removable flip qwerty keymat.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:33

30. phonemirer (Posts: 111; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


they should make torch w bb10 and flagship 2013 specs, z10 > i5

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