Analyst spells out the new Nexus 7 tablet specs: WUXGA display, quad-core Snapdragon, same sub-$200 tag
0. phoneArena 10 May 2013, 01:36 posted on
Waiting for Google's I/O conference next week? So are we, as the company might do a trick, pulling out an updated Nexus tablet out of the proverbial hat. KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo issued a note to clients the expected specs, which mostly jibe with what we've heard so far, at least regarding the higher-res screen...
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1. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
Doesn't matter it will probably cost more outside non-google play countries
10. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Unfortunately that's true, anyway Asus (contrary to what LG did with the nexus 4) maintained a favorable price/performance ratio even where the nexus 7 was not subsidized by Google. Here in Italy the nexus 7 starts from eur 199 and though the price can't be compared with the US price, it is still one of the best tablets around for that price, if not the best. That's why I'm happy that the next nex7 will be made by asus again (but I also hope that google will open the devices store soon, unless they want to give up entire markets to microsoft)m
16. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
yes, but the most important is to teach people spend money for the online services (+ ads) so subsidized great tablets are just for more developed countries....understandable = go after effectivity
despite my country suffers from this attitude :)
but this solution is great for world's progress = throw out overpriced incapable Microsoft + Apple = don't pay for OS = pay just for services = and the future bright :)
18. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
Google doesn't subsidize nexus devices...please guys
it is just a lame excuse used by LG to justifty their pricing
26. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
so according to above .......next version of android is 4.3......
35. sharks (Posts: 184; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
True. But for whatever price it may be, you'll get yourself VERY decent hardware, with a classy 323 PPI at a price that beats any other tablets of that size (including the iPad mini and upcoming iPad mini 2) outside non-Google store countries.
2. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5659; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i'll probably get one if there's nothing new regarding a 10.1" tablet whether it's a price drop of the N10, a new variant of the N10 or a new 10.1" tablet altogether. i'd love a Nexus 8 though. o:
43. AFnerdTP (Posts: 86; Member since: 15 May 2012)
i second this. love the tab 7.7.. waiting for an upgrade of similar size.. you may have my thumbs up.
3. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Sounds like a nice upgrade to the Nexus 7, but I'm still waiting on a 8" or 9" Nexus tablet with similar specs, maybe with a Snapdragon 600 instead. Hoping to see an upgrade of equal proportions on the new Nexus 10.
9. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
APQ8064 is a great processor, it is for example in nexus 4. Snapdragon 600 is a mild upgrade from APQ8064, it has same graphics (adreno 320), it only uses new Krait 300 cores which is a very small upgrade, I believe it has more memory bandwidth. Snapdragon 600 costs 30 bucks which is way too much for a 200 buck tablet. So that is why I wouldn´t use Snapdragon 600 or even a better processor like Tegra 4.
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I know the S4 Pro is very capable in the Nexus 7, but I was saying to use the Snapdragon 600 in an 8" or 9" tablet.
The Snapdragon 600 is a pretty moderate step up from the APQ8064 in both CPU and GPU power, as you can see here;
The S600 (whether in the GS4 or the One) outperforms the APQ8064 in all tests, most of which by a fair margin. The APQ8064 is perfect for a low cost tablet like the Nexus 7, but the Snapdragon 600 would be better suited for a 8" or 9" tablet that would cost a little more, which is what I was saying.
30. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
SGS4 has a modified S600, but if you look at HTC ONE vs Nexus 4. Then it is almost the same in GPU performance, actually Nexus 4 has more performance than ONE or SGS4 because it has 720p display. Benchmarks are easily optimized and that is why ONE or SGS4 has ´´more´´ performance, look at xda or anandtech. S600 has is a very mild upgrade to apq8064 (nexus4). Krait 400 cores are an upgrade but not 300. The S600 is looking way better in benchmarks than apq8064 so that it seems like a great upgrade.
31. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Even when comparing the HTC One to the Nexus 4, it still is a moderate upgrade in CPU power. That's due to the 200 MHz bump and also slight architecture differences that give Krait 300 an advantage of about 20-30% overall.
With GPU power, they are about the same, but the One still takes the lead by a small margin overall; which is even more impressive considering how much higher the resolution on the One is.
I've looked at XDA and Anandtech, I actually put links to Anandtech in my previous post, and the Snapdragon 600, whether the modified version in the GS4 or the stock version in the One, is a moderate upgrade in CPU and GPU performance to the APQ8064.
34. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Yes Qualcomm is really owning this year, faster processor (S600 vs apq8064) and less energy. This idea of making a hybrid between A9 and A15 is ingenious, I have no idea why no one else is doing this. I hope that in 2014 Qualcomm will make a hybrid between A15 and A57, nothing will stand in its way :).
About GPU : entirely theoretical Nexus 4 should have more performance because ONE has 115% more pixels and exactly the same GPU (overclocked a bit) so it is impossible for ONE to have a lead there. Just look on 3D Mark benchmark for smartphones, Nexus 4 leads there with like 70-80%.
36. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, Apple is kind of doing it with their Swift architecture; considering the A6 chip in the iPhone 5 is dual core clocked at 1.3 GHz, it scores fairly well in CPU benchmarks. Though I doubt they match the low power consumption that Qualcomm's chips have, it's definitely better than A15.
12. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I don't think you'll ever see it.... Google focused on 7'' and 10'' and there's no room in between. Either you choose 7'' or 8''. That said, and being a nexus 7 owner, I think that 7'' is a great size.
4. Scarambay (Posts: 57; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Google might seriously want to consider opening a Play Store in India given the huge number of potential customers for Nexus Phones and Tablets.
8. cezarepc (Posts: 632; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
No offense but India is not a consumer country yet (in the webspace sense). Yes a lot of people in India will definitely buy Nexus devices but what will Google get out of them? Google gets revenue from people with purchasing power (I'm not being racist), I'm referring to people who click on ads and eventually purchases something or registers/subscribes to a paid service, and majority of these kinds of people are from first world countries that's why the Play Store (for devices) are available only in these countries.
Sad news is most South-East Asian nations also aren't getting any Google-love.
17. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Indians are notorious penny - pinchers...they won't spend a dime on apps (where google thrives) trust me,....I've had so many Indian co workers and they all rely on pirate Apk sites as their main source of paid (cough) apps
I have given my Indian friend an excellent $400 deal to sell my Note 2 to him and all he said was "Lower it even further, it's still pricey"
39. tech2 (Posts: 2738; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
1. You are selling a used device. The warranty of which will end shortly.
2. The device is 6 months old and the successor (sort of, difference of only 0.5 inch) GS4 is available on market.
3. Price on amazon for unlocked version is $550
4. You aren't going through any commercial channels to sell him i.e. websites or vendors. Otherwise you'd have to pay 2-5% of your sale value to the website.
5. I don't know what country you are from but in UK a vendor was selling it for £230 (used).
All that for only $150 cheaper ?
You see the thing is indians are not stupid. We value money and so we like to think rationally before spending. Lastly, even though you may be correct in your own way but calling an entire race penny pinchers because of an individual is a sign of bigoted and racist personality.
FYI, that was his polite way of refusing the offer as you are his so called 'friend' !
19. indianapple89 (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
I'm from India, and Google already offers 16 and 32 GB WiFi-only versions of Nexus 7 via its Play Store here.
23. cezarepc (Posts: 632; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
But the price is not subsidized. In this case Google will earn from the hardware sale.
28. indianapple89 (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
Maybe compared to the US version, the price is on the high side. But its still less than what Asus was selling them for earlier directly. Also taxes are on the higher side.
Still for about Rs. 16k (~ $290) its still cheap here for the specs compared to the competition. Not to mention, regular updates from Google and the stock experience.
29. cezarepc (Posts: 632; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
True. The regular updates and the vanilla experience is more than enough to justify the Nexus 7 price. I was wondering, since you're from India, are there any 7" Micromax tabs? Their A116 Canvas HD is selling like crazy and is being rebranded everywhere. Good value for money device.
5. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
I want a minimum of s600 or tegra 4
15. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)
Give me a break... S4 Pro is still a solid performer with Adreno 320!!
You want a S600, S800, T4 tablet... make your own tablet and stop complaining...
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Considering it will cost about $200, a 7" full HD tablet with the S4 Pro is a VERY good deal.
6. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
How can it have those specs for that price?
Sounds a bit too optimistic, this
13. FlushGordon (unregistered)
They will sell it at a loss/break even scheme hoping to recoup their losses through app purchases from the Play Store
7. cezarepc (Posts: 632; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Got my Nexus 7 2nd half of last year and it's still a great performer. Some games shows lag but overall it's still a great piece of Android awesomeness. I'll probably get the 2nd gen when my tab starts to struggle with at least 40% of the latest high-end apps.
11. galanoth (Posts: 355; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
I'd really like a Nexus 8 inch instead of 7 inch though.
20. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1166; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
If all that's true, that's going to be my first tablet. I only hope I don't have to keep hitting the refresh button for too many days to get it :D
21. funnyguy (banned) (Posts: 244; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)
Nexus 7 again???
With soft keys of stock android you don't even get 7 inches you get 6.8 inches or something..
Make it a Nexus 8 google...
And give it for free ....
That's the only way to compete with apple ....
40. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9513; Member since: 14 May 2012)
"And give it for free ..."
Please re-read what you've wrote because that made no sense at all.
42. funnyguy (banned) (Posts: 244; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)
What i mean is that since android is open and free, with adds...
They should put some coca cola and nike advertising stickers on the nexus and give it fee..
Its gonna be a perfect adds in an out experience...
22. kanagadeepan (Posts: 749; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
OH... Yet another analyst giving time pass rumors....
33. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
I'm in if those specs are true. Especially if they can price a 16gig model at $200.
37. downphoenix (Posts: 2563; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
If its at least 16GB memory for that price, it will be MINE, although I would honestly probably pay $50 more to double memory :)
And it will also be the highest resolution device I'll have. My TV and PC monitors max at 1366x768 and my phone is 1280x720.
38. funnyguy (banned) (Posts: 244; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)
Reading the title I thought it was a quad core snapdragon and same 200$ Lag...
But it sais The same 200$ Tag not Lag..