Analyst sees AT&T growth slowing if Verizon gets the iPhone

0. phoneArena posted on 15 Jul 2009, 13:05

Researcher Walter Piecyk of Pali Research forecasts that AT&T will lose subscribers and experience slower growth if Big Red gets the iPhone...

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58. YouLostTheGame posted on 15 Jul 2009, 23:49

Um, last I checked, the current "ATT" is from a merger with the old ATT and Cingular. That might shed some light into your question of "why did they have so many customers before the iphone?"

61. The Spartan posted on 16 Jul 2009, 00:31

...dude, wtf is that? Seriously, you're going to compare EURO 3G to 3G American, say American sucks, then go say you're leaving VZW to go to AT&T? Dude, read your stuff before you post those mindless ramblings. And since you're talking about "Euro to American", do understand that your provider is co-owned by the largest Euro provider? Oh, and AT&T merged with Cingular, that's where all those customers came from. What'd you do, wake up in a cave 2 years ago? Facts and truth my ass, ROFL.

68. Miacol posted on 16 Jul 2009, 07:05

Spartan the Merger between ATT Wireless and Cingular Wireless to form the new ATT Mobility occurred in December of 2006 and renamed in January of 2007, way pass the 2 years so if customers wanted to leave they had plenty of time. Oh and by the way, the iPhone added 3 million users bringing ATT to 77 million (before 3GS launch) and VZW brought Alltel to add 10 million to get to the 80 million today. So he is speaking the truth, because if customers wanted they could have canceled their plans, once their contract was over and moved on. And Yes he can compare the Euro and American 3G because hey are GSM/HSPDA/HDPA+. CDMA/EVDO is used in the USA, Korea, Philippines, and Latin America (which is disappearing because VZW sold VZW Latin American to the company owned by TeleMexico which is in the process of switching the CDMA/EVDO towers to GSM/3G).

81. The Spartan posted on 18 Jul 2009, 13:13

...Did you even read my comment, you god damned retard? I was referring to how AT&T had all their customers (not losing them, thanks for big 'ol F in reading comprehension), that's great the iPhone added 3 million and VZW added 10 with Alltel, I really don't care. And finally, he SHOULDN'T say anything about Euro to American, b/c he's an American user who's trashing American coverage, saying Euro has much better network, then goes on to talk about how wickedly badass the American 3g gsm AT&T network is, right after he got done trashing the crap out of it. Read before you most, you retarded s.o.b. Man I hate dumb people. *Edit: And what in the **** does the VZW Latin have anything to do with what I said? Nothing, you...I'm done. I can't do this anymore...-throws hands up- IDIOTS.

90. Miacol posted on 20 Jul 2009, 11:38

Spartan, sorry it was not meant for you it was meant for facts&truth, got the names confused.

92. facts&truth posted on 20 Jul 2009, 15:58

how was it meant for me. Doesn't make sense . Oh and the merger of cingular and the old attwireless was in 2004. It realy was. research it.

93. facts&truth posted on 20 Jul 2009, 16:07

You are so hot headed and silly. I didn't down our 3s. Its what we have and I'm thankful for it. But, facts are facts. If euro 3g is better right now, so what it just is. How does it make me less patrioctic because I state the facts. It doesn't. I love my nation just as much as U do, but I will step up and say we need to come up in some areas . That gos for my family, friends, church, ect. The truth hurts sometime, when it does, say ouch and keep on going and improving. Bottom Line.

57. VSS_55 posted on 15 Jul 2009, 23:48

LOOK! Wheels are ROUND! apple and ATT sells LOTS of iphones (like 1/4 of att's customers) so if VZW sold the iphone VZW = lots of iphones. I love when people post obvious things. I love more that people are paid to do research on common sense. Well those wheels COULD be round but we should probably spend several million on experiments to proove it....

63. facts&truth posted on 16 Jul 2009, 01:10

Once again, U fools have no idea of what your talking about. First off, Cingular bought out att wireless. Cingular was still in controll and att wireless was no more U fools. Then AT&T the compamy merged with SBC in which SBC had the controlling intrest. Well then, The New AT&T/sbc took 60% stock in cincular wireless and it then became apart of the new AT&T as well. Which has always been and still is Big Red's #1 contender. Also U fools, Iphones are only 13% of AT&T's customer base. 1 more thing, AT&T is 100% American Owned. Its Big Red thats half owned by Europe's Vodafone. Check that out U nuts. These are well documented facts. Also, if Europe's 3g is better than ours, so what, their ahead of us in that area. It makes us no less, we just need to catch up. When I lived in the UK, they didn't lock down our phones nor did they put you i bondage for 2 or 3 years. It was only 8 to 16 months which was optional with much better phones and prices. And I'm still gona stick with AT&T when my bigred contract is up. Everything I said is Well Documented!

66. drewsky posted on 16 Jul 2009, 06:53

Well said.

69. Miacol posted on 16 Jul 2009, 07:07

Don't worry facts&truth we got your back and your 100% right.

80. jherz6 posted on 17 Jul 2009, 21:00

The only reason AT&T is VZW's number one contender is the iphone and thats all if they didnt have it AT&T would be a minor player in the big four. VZW is still VZW they havnt had to merge with anyone to stay afloat or to hide a bad reputation like Cingular did. AT&T not doing a lot of advertising true that but neither does Verizon, that will change when and if VZW gets the iphone. Well documented really prove it.

64. bokfu74 posted on 16 Jul 2009, 01:54

I'm going to state the obvious since no one els (that I have read) has. Sooner or later all the fanboys are going to have to quiet down and take a nap. At some point all the carriers are going to have to (begrudgingly) "agree" on technology choice. It just quite simply just doesn't make sense to continue to operate multiple networks covering the same territory. So enjoy exclusivity while it lasts *sigh*. We are yet in another stage of consolidation (and innovation) like every dynamic system (companies, populations, geographic boundaries, social trends, music, etc). And please continue to leave desperate emotional comments!

70. Miacol posted on 16 Jul 2009, 07:09

I have to agree, I think all the towers in the USA should be set to GSM/3G/LTE and carriers should compete on services.

75. YouLostTheGame posted on 16 Jul 2009, 23:32

That's the way everything is shifting anyway. Sooner or later, LTE is going to have replaced the CDMA and GSM networks here in the states on both VZW and ATT. So, at that point, it's going to come down to services provided, customer service, reliability and the such. However, if VZW continues down the same path they've been traveling, they're going to still be on top due to the fact that they consistently score top marks in third party consumer research. Just sayin. And at least for me, I'm glad that VZW is a privately held company between VZ Communications (55%) and Vodafone (45%). That helps ensure those pesky unions steer clear and also helps in helping a company being able to stay focused on running a proper company, rather than dealing with the pesky bureaucratic bullshit. Not unlike what ATT went through a few months back.

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