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Analyst sees AT&T growth slowing if Verizon gets the iPhone

0. phoneArena posted on 15 Jul 2009, 13:05

Researcher Walter Piecyk of Pali Research forecasts that AT&T will lose subscribers and experience slower growth if Big Red gets the iPhone...

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18. E.N. posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:59

I don't think that it matters what company gets the iPhone. If Sprint or/and T-mobile gets the iPhone, sales for the Att iPhone will split. Verizon may have the bigger impact, but we don't know that for sure. Let's not get too Verizon happy.

20. Miacol posted on 15 Jul 2009, 15:31

The really is a matter of Opinion, live and work in NYC, VZW could not provide service where I work (according to VZW engineers we do not have towers pointing to wall street), They could not provide service in the Heights and SOHA (That's Washington Heights and South of Harlem for non NYC folks). Where I know live in Teaneck, NJ oh yeah we have great coverage just not in your section (what?) and where my mom lives (Bogota, NJ) the reception was worse then where I live in Teaneck. I was paying for a service that I did not have, plus I could not travel back home with my VZW BB I had to get another carrier back home, which always sucked. Once we moved to ATT (with the exception of my VZW BB - It's company owned) my family and I are much happier. So again it's a matter of Opinion, oh and by the way I have tons of friends with the same experience as me.

38. Arielnyc2006 posted on 15 Jul 2009, 19:09

I work on Wall st (Trump Building on 40 Wall) and I get excellent Verizon service here so that is BS that "according to VZW engineers we do not have towers pointing to wall street". I also have get great coverage in the Heights.

45. BlackberryUser posted on 15 Jul 2009, 21:31

This is a very good point, Verizon may have the best coverage or phones, but if they don't have coverage where you live you'll choose a different carrier.

46. BlackberryUser posted on 15 Jul 2009, 21:32

Miacol was probably exagerating and they may not have coverage at his particular building.

50. Miacol posted on 15 Jul 2009, 22:00

Right up the block on Wall, New, Broad and Exchange, check it out. And where in the Heights do you get excellent coverage in the Heights (are you talking about Morning or Washington)? I can give you exact locations areas of drop... Though I must say to an extend he or she is right in the Heights, VZW has been aggressively pushing new towers in Washington Heights, but still get 1, 2 bars at max...

62. Arielnyc2006 posted on 16 Jul 2009, 00:42

Were you talking about Morningside Heights area around 112, I don't know about that area, but in Washington heights they have improved alot in the past year.

65. Miacol posted on 16 Jul 2009, 06:53

Well I have seen towers go up and better performance in the Heights (Washington specifically), but there are still large holes in the area. I'm sure VZW will close those holes up, but the overall point is that the network is not perfect, everyone wants to bash ATT, but VZW suffers from similar situations.

83. j.naueattrep posted on 19 Jul 2009, 14:32

I agree. Ever stand in line at a Verizon store and out of the 14 people in front of you maybe one leaves with a new phone and the rest are issues? By the time you reach the front of the line there are 14 more people behind you doing the same thing. Go to an at&t store and don't wait in line----oh, that's right, we take care of people so well the 1st time they are in the store we rarely see them again and there is rarely ever a line.

7. vzw fanman posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:12

interesting...i'm sure the growth would slow too.

9. The Doc posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:17

Did we need an analyst to know this?

12. knightgolf posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:29

Agreed...I'm now calling myself a Head Researcher. And as my first bit of information, I provide this: Should AT&T get their network up to par with Verizon's, it stands to reason they would stand little chance of losing customers should they lose iPhone exclusivity. I'll expect my check in the mail.

32. Kiltlifter posted on 15 Jul 2009, 17:25

THIS COMMENT IS FANTASTIC! LOL

40. Truth posted on 15 Jul 2009, 19:19

It does have to be pointed out. A lot of people think that a phone will make the service better. This simply points out that just cause you have a phone on one carrier that phone on a different carrier will be better.

85. TheCellDepotVZW posted on 19 Jul 2009, 16:58

Actually yes different carriers sometimes do make a difference. I have tried phones that are the same but on 2 or even 3 different carriers and yes sometimes the carrier did make the difference. Mainly network speeds are the big thing. Especally with PDA's, with regular non 3G phones it was not that noticible, of course signal strength being the issue for those people. Sprint, VZW & T-Mobile are going to have 3 different signal strengths on the same phones (same for that carrier). My storm would not run the same speeds if I unlocked it to use on At&t or Even if I could take it to sprint. I would actually prefer to have a storm on Sprint than At&t. But since I can't (or wont) I will use it on my Rev.A 3G VZW Network.

11. cdw2856 posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:28

I don't see a problem with Verizon getting the Iphone. I think AT&T had there chance and the time to improve their system coverage and instead spent the time trying to get the best phone. I think it's time for someone else to give it a shot with the Iphone so we all can enjoy a great phone and the service area to go with it. But in the end I have to agree with Galen20K I wouldn't leave a carrier who has a great service area for one who has the best phone and has no service area or at least not much of one. What are people thinking?

13. cdw2856 posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:35

I also would like to see Verizon take care of those that remained loyal to them through the Iphone mania and offer a small discount if possible on the new Iphone or maybe on the data plan for 6 months something to show appreciation for those who remained loyal to them, maybe it is wishful thinking LOL.

14. stuntz posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:41

sorry never gonna happen...

47. BlackberryUser posted on 15 Jul 2009, 21:34

That's a great idea... I don't see it happening though.

73. Kiltlifter posted on 16 Jul 2009, 16:31

But what about those that are still on Verizon that have no intention of ever buying an iPhone? why should you get compensated for a data plan... VZW would have to pay me to use an iPhone.... A LOT... so a discount would be stupid, unfair, and make users like me angry. It won't happen.

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