Analyst sees AT&T growth slowing if Verizon gets the iPhone

76. durkadurkha posted on 17 Jul 2009, 16:33 0 0

Never going to happen, Apple doesn't even let carrier branding on their iPhone let alone allow Verizon to run it's own APP store!

77. jherz6 posted on 17 Jul 2009, 20:34 0 0

And so what if they dont, Rim has there own app store and it doesnt seem to bother VZW one bit.

87. Miacol posted on 20 Jul 2009, 10:31 0 0

RIM is far more flexible with items like that Apple not so much, Apple is a big stickler for making sure everything is labeled Apple.

84. TheCellDepotVZW posted on 19 Jul 2009, 16:46 0 0

Well thats what would happen if you put a phone people actually want on a Network People Actually Want!!! I personally think it would make Apple tons more by giving a phone to VZW since so many people want it that way anyways. There are loyal At&t customers out there that would not switch, but I dont think there is enough of those people to keep it een remotely close to the way it is now! Sorry At&t...

88. Miacol posted on 20 Jul 2009, 10:33 0 0

You do realize that with the iPhone ATT only added 3 million new customers. The remaining balance of iPhone users were already ATT. I don't care if they put one on VZW as long as Apple keeps the GSM track alive and offer new phones as well. Now mind you what ends is the exclusivity that does not meant that Apple is abandoning ATT.

19. Miacol posted on 15 Jul 2009, 15:25 0 0

lol your so funny, the Most Horrible Carrier in the Entire world, that's just precious, thanks for the laugh. Now everyone keeps talking about an iPhone for Verizon, but there is something everyone forgot an exclusive contract for 5 years (or was it only for 3 years, which still puts them into 2011) with ATT established in 2007 which was extended in 2008, so I'm not sure why this keeps coming up, I know people love to talk but this is a bit much.

26. jherz6 posted on 15 Jul 2009, 16:35 0 0

I dont know where you get your info however the exclusivity ends next year, and thru a reliable source VZW will be able to carry the iphone as early as next year.

27. Miacol posted on 15 Jul 2009, 16:39 0 0

Not sure where you got your source that says it ends next year, I would re-check that source, though I could be wrong, but I thought the original contract was signed for years in 2007 and was extended in 2008 for another year.

44. BlackberryUser posted on 15 Jul 2009, 21:29 0 0

Everybody has thrown around dates on these forums and articles, but the rumor is that Verizon will have the phone next year. Typically these rumors are based in thruth a little bit and they've been around for a few years. I don't think AT&T is the worst carrier, but nobody can honestly argue that losing their exclusive rights to the iPhone would hit them hard. The actual date is irrelevant as it will eventually happen, even if it's a couple years down the road after LTE is fully rolled out. At some point AT&T can't offer enough to keep an exclusive contract.

54. lolipopjones posted on 15 Jul 2009, 22:16 0 0

With what? Verizon will be using CDMA for voice and LTE for data even up to 2014 that info is provided via VzLearn LTE transition. Any phone on VzW's network will have to be gateway devices meaning they will not be capable of simulitanious voice and data. A GSM iPhone will be worthless on Verizon's network because while it will be able to use the Data network (LTE is backwards compatible.) it will not be able to use voice. VzW's LTE is for Broadband Access via Data Cards and bragging rights. They will not use LTE for voice so anyone with GSM phones have no use of VzW's network. The other problem is how likely do you think Apple will want to make a CDMA/LTE phone? Verizon's "superior" network is a joke. A large network is no use if the handsets they sell are trash. I am sure Apple is going to discontinue their app store for VzW to put their trash App Store on it along with its garbage Vcast rhapsody....

82. j.naueattrep posted on 19 Jul 2009, 14:16 0 0

I have worked for Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t. Through those experiences I have gained a larger understanding between the differences in the carrier networks and technologies. Being placed under a CDMA network like Verizon will hurt the Iphone due to it being a single use only network. What I mean by this is that Push Email only works when you are not in a phone call. Internet only works if you are not doing anything else on the phone. In At&t and T-mobile networks, however, GSM (which is what the entire world uses short of tiny companies in the US, Verizon, and Sprint), is a vastly superior technology that allows it's users to be in a phone call, receive texts, get push email, and do so on-the-fly all at the same time. We also have the size issue to iron out. Take for instance the V3 Razr in At&t and compare it to a V3 in Verizon: The Verizon phone is a lot thicker due to having to have the CDMA component put in. The battery life using CDMA on the Razr is a measly 3 hours talk time compared to the SAME phone and battery in at&t of 7.5 hour talk time. We can make more calls, send more data at TWICE the speeds (Verizon 1xEV 1.5Mbts, At&t 3.6Mbts) and still have more battery left that the Verizon versions. We have more tower locations, larger calling base, and our bandwidths can handle larger loads.

94. j.naueattrep posted on 21 Jul 2009, 14:37 0 0

Ahhh, but those same customers would complain of 1 hour usage time from a full Iphone battery using LTE. The transfers combined with the incredibly higher call usage drain under Verizon's CDMA network would make the Iphone all but useless. Plus, placing the CDMA component and a larger battery inside of the current Iphone housing would make it roughly the size of a brick. It would make a good paperweight at that point.

8. vzw fanman posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:13 0 0

there have been way more articles to bash verizon though...

10. The Doc posted on 15 Jul 2009, 14:20 0 0

If you think about it, it doesn't need to be proven. It's more common sense than anything. Whether people like it or not, VZW is the BEST carrier in the U.S. Of course people would want a carrier that took a cool device and made it a better phone! But I still don't think we needed an analyst to tell us that...