Analyst says RIM has no suitors
0. phoneArena 26 Aug 2012, 17:08 posted on
Town Hall Investment Research analyst Jamie Townsend told clients last week that RIM's chances of finding a suitor are bleak and while CEO Thorsten Heins has said that the company is open to licensing BB10, there has been no interest so far...
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1. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
I think bb10 is to late. I think Samsung should buy it to make it better if they can. I just think that Samsung might want to wait for them to lose some more market share, and get a better price.
2. fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 07 Mar 2011)
need some help where can i get a nexus 7? coming to the U.S for a week..really want one
5. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The nearest Radio shack should have it. If not, order the Nexus ahead of time straight from Google Play and have it delievered to where you're staying, just pay attention to the shipping dates to make sure it will get there while you're there. Or, if you're staying with a friend, just have them order it and pay them back when you get there.
12. lyndon420 (Posts: 3845; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
More to add to the patent portfolio among other reasons. May as well do something with the company before it just up and dies.
7. Gawain (Posts: 418; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)
RIM has the Canadian and US government obstacles to face as well. Samsung, being a Korean company and ROK being a tight ally of the US, probably would not face a "no" from the US antitrust folks, but Canada is pretty tight about keeping things that are "born Canadian" to "stay Canadian." Nortel is a prime example.
Having said that, I think RIM has a couple more cards to play other than to simply sellout. I seriously think they should examine options with BBM and BES.
8. axllebeer (Posts: 271; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
I used to think that allowing BBM to be allowed on other platforms was a mistake, but now it sounds like a good idea. It really is the best instant messaging system on a mobile device available. Is it the be and end all to stick with BB, no of course not. But if it was released on Andriod and iOS for $.99, anyone that has used it before would grab it up in a heartbeat. Even if only 25% of Android and iPhone users worldwide purchased it for that price, it would be decent enough revenue for RIM to make it worth their time to design a full version for those platforms in my opinion.
11. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Same question - why? Amazon can partner with a hardware manufacturer and avoid the 'baggage' that would come along with a RIM acquisition. For that matter, every potential acquirer of RIM has to consider the baggage that would come along with any acquisition. Which is why there is no interested suitor.
13. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
i actually kinda agree... i dont know why is google and microsoft there... theyu have android and windows phone that is on top right now.... so amazon needs to have its own hardware and software.. and RIM is the best choice...
14. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
stupid haters... why are you so bitter to RIM.. RIM and BlackBerry/BB10 can go back to business if RIM will rethink where to market and what market should the BB10 devices should be place... if they go all high end with BB10 that is the same price of the next iPhone or the next beastly android.. they will surely fail and upto bankruptcy...
they need to market their device right... i will really suggest to CEO that if they offer there high end device off contract, its should be price $150-100 lower than iPhones or androids high end... if on contract, it should be offer like the lumia 900 did... cheaper but with specs of a flagship!!!
they should never ever go high end price coz they are not on people's list anymore... but if cheaper but high end spec, then people will surely love to buy one..
its all or nothing here... but i still believe that RIM will be back if the CEO is on the right track and on right mind... its all about marketing strategy here... ecosystem will be alright since some android devs are now porting there apps to app world... and far as i know last may playbook apps are on 25000 and counting since both bb10 and playbook apps run on same kernel now... and RIM really did a good job there that all there product are united... like the upcoming WP8 and win8...
17. lyndon420 (Posts: 3845; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Not hating...just trying to figure out how to stop a sinkng ship.
18. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
yeah..but i dont any of this company to buy RIM..maybe amazon but i dont want them...
i believe that RIM can make a comeback.. they catch up.. they got a decent app catalog for their new OS...
all they need to do is a strong and smart marketing strategy... they should do what nokia did to lumia 900 but they should be more like samsung's pricing... samsung's last flagship the s2 is so cheap now compare to BB's last falgship(bold 990) and nokia's last flagship(N9)... those device's price is still the same in my place...but pretty much the same in other places (country)
16. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1524; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
The Microsoft deal may come to fruitarian after all if Rim brings Blackberry 10 to the Market place and it fails to sell many handsets. Nokia is however the best choice for for Microsoft to buy or give Billions to help Nokia stay afloat because it's creative talent and other resources would help Windows smart phones sell better. If Microsoft bought Rim it would cause some of it's smart phones OEM's to make no more than one model Windows smart phone or abandon making Windows smart phones altogether. One good thing for Microsoft though is that if they own Rim and let it run almost as an independent company and sell Blackberry 10 and Blackberry branded Windows smart phones with Blackberry security Apps Microsoft would have the best Enterprise smart phones out on the market place . .
19. lyndon420 (Posts: 3845; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
But...if Google buys RIM, they would most likely produce handsets that people would actually buy. This would make more sense than microsoft buying them for at least a couple reasons -1) Windows Phone is taking way too long to get noticed by the public for whatever reasons, -2) RIM was already making it possible to run Android apps on some of their devices.
How do you take one company who isn't making money from 'their own' platform (microsoft), and combine it with another company who also isn't able to sell their own products for a profit, and then expect to make tons of money?
If you have one pile of crap, and put it on another pile of crap you get? A big pile of crap.
RIM would most likely embrace the idea of a partnership with microsoft because they need help...any kind of help. Microsoft would come along like some big saving grace like they did with Nokia, and then most likely do to RIM what was done to Nokia. Microsoft would only be worried about one thing....losing their so called Android royalties which is their main source of income now.
20. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
".if Google buys RIM, they would most likely produce handsets that people would actually buy." you must be kidding right? they have nexus phone and tablet... and people buy those...
RIM needs to do is a good marketing strategy... they need money right? but their BB7 device aren't selling now.. but still available... all they need to do is to have fund..they need to sold those devices at very cheap (think about HP touchPad)
in order for those devices to sell is to cut down the prices... same goes with the PlayBook..need to offer it cheaper... minus $50 dollars i guess.. since the nexus 7 cost the same price like the PB but nexus is selling due to its android ecosystem...
in order to be ready to BB10 they need to cut down jobs coz they need money.. they can rehire them when the company is now stable...
again.. its all about the marketing strategy... need to be wise... they are not the hit stuff anymore.. so they need to be hot stuff at cheap price but high specs phones like the lumia 900
21. lyndon420 (Posts: 3845; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Looks like you missed my point entirely. Look at how popular Google's Android is, and then look at how popular Windows Phone is.
Now...look at how well RIM and Nokia are doing. Nokia has microsoft helping them, and microsoft has been helping Nokia for awhile now. Now i'll ask the question again, 'how well is Nokia doing?'
Soooo...if Google was to help RIM, 'RIM' (with Google's help) would probably be able to make some products that people would actually want to buy.