Analyst reconfirms Samsung might equip the Galaxy S IV with Snapdragon chipset
0. phoneArena 22 Feb 2013, 02:21 posted on
Piper Jaffray analyst Gus Richard slipped a confirmation in a note to clients that Samsung might indeed have trouble outfitting the Galaxy S IV with its Exynos 5 Octa chip, and is considering a Qualcomm swap, as we've heard before...
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3. mr.techdude (Posts: 543; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
It has to be the 600 because 800 is made for larger devices such as laptops, computers and tablets
4. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
nobody said that 800 can't be used for smartphones. But 600 will be the most probable choice given that 800 is not yet on production.
25. abdane (Posts: 475; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
my question again, is the Snapdragon for the US version only or for all versions ?
7. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4000; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
"Not only will you see this Snapdragon 800 processor in mobile devices like smartphones and tablets, but it will be featured in computing and consumer electronic devices such as Smart TVs and digital media adapters."
But, the 800 isn't supposed to go into mass production until at least June, so it will be the 600 unless Samsung want's to wait until June/July to release their flagship, which they really shouldn't.
12. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
In fact, snapdragon 800 should be even more frugal than the 600, on top of the big increase in power.
17. darkskoliro (Posts: 968; Member since: 07 May 2012)
"Overall Performance Boost—the Snapdragon 800 processor is expected to deliver up to 75% better performance than the Snapdragon S4 Pro"
Looks like im waiting a few more months :))
43. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
It does make you wonder if the Snapdragon 800 will find its way into the new Motorola X phone considering Qualcomm had a roadmap a while ago that suggested it knew about the next Android OS coming in May. Perhaps the Motorola X could be announced with the Snapdragon 800, with production and a release happening the following month.
However, I think the 600 will do very well for this device. You also have to remember that the rumors suggest the clock speed for the 600 in the SIV is 1.9Ghz instead of the 1.7Ghz of the HTC One. I’m not suggesting that is a reason to pick the SIV over the HTC One (considering I still don’t know enough about the SIV yet), but rather to point out there are some differences between the two devices.
However, my point is that as of right now we cannot sit here and say one device is better than the other until the actual device comes to fruition. I remember reading the comments on the HTC One rumors a month ago with people spouting off “HTC is dead” or “This will be a failure.” Please have some patience. Wait until we actually see the device before coming to such judgments.
48. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2163; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Unless the Motorola X sees some serious delays, the 800 will not be used in it. Qualcomm has already stated that it will not be ready for production until Q3.
52. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I did say "could be". It is possible that they announce the phone in May and it be released in June or July. It's more of a dream than a reality. It also could possibly showcase an Exynos chipset for all we know.
53. Dr.Phil (Posts: 904; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Also, we don't know when the X phone is suppose to be released. Some rumors have suggested a July release. Others suggest an announcement in May at Google's I/O event. So, really at this point there is nothing off the table.
23. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
if its not 800, i will sue Samsung for playing with my emotions...
5. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4000; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Probably the 600, considering the 800 isn't supposed to be out until at least June, and Samsung isn't going to wait 3 months after the unveiling to launch their flagship. However, it might have more than 2 GB of RAM; there was a leak a while ago with Samsung prototypes with 3 GB of RAM.
If the GS4 has the Snapdragon 600 and a mostly polycarbonate build, I'm going for the One. Maybe the new Touchwiz can make up for it, but I doubt it, Sense 5 is really appealing to me.
34. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
im thinking of getting the One too bro, design, power, and beautiful ui sounds like a winner to me
35. buccob (Posts: 1399; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Well I think the winning formula for Samsung lately has been focusing on software.
First they built a nice enough device with the Galaxy S
Then they up the hardware game with the Galaxy SII
but Touchwiz skin was crap...
Then they put together what was a great all around package (not the best camera, but it was great... not the best screen but it was great, and so on.....) And focused on software so their skin now is one of the best out there.. Maybe not visually but it is very useful. Pop up apps, multi windowed apps... improvements over Android and leaving alone whats good about stock...
Now that I have a Sony I realize that they are behind in this aspect... (Sony skin is visually very appealing, but lacks productivity)... But I am confident that they are working on this too (Look Jellybean for Xperia T and Z... pop up small apps... caching on)
26. _Bone_ (Posts: 2124; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
How so? The SD 600 is spectacular and the Adreno 320 is still the best mobile GPU bar iPad 4, this is good for HW uniformity therefore developer focus therefore user experience. Personally I don't give a crap what's under the hood as long as it's fast and efficient, the latter being the red light for Samsung's own A15 quad.
Now the question is: expecting 100M units, did Samsung pressurize Qualcomm to get the SD 800 early or a custom made chipset? You see for Qualcomm this is a one-time opportunity not only to earn 5 times more than without Samsung, but to show off the Snapdragon potential and make Sammy think about dropping Project Octa entirely.
Business-wise, giving Samsung special treatment is the best thing a chip maker can do, and the benchmark clock speed shows something different to the One's and the G Pro's SD 600. I suspect a made-for-Samsung variant.
47. tech2 (Posts: 2028; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
hmmm.....u do have a strong point ! But what I think is, its not really about powerful chips anymore as it is highly likely one will not see a significant difference in speed from either of the chips. What I liked about the octa was their focus on saving battery.
A custom chipset is a possibility but altogether releasing SD 800 early is a bit of a long shot even if it involves impressing a client like Samsung. Because there would be strong reasons like manufacturing or R&D that needs to be perfected or ironed out before the mass production can be started.
But of course this is nothing but a speculation :/
6. nikenturd (unregistered)
If it doesn't offer something special like improved design and camera quality...then I might go for the HTC One....Otherwise its just another souped up S3...and puhleeeez....No more plastics for jeebus sakes...I can live with touchwiz since it can be easily replaced by another launcher....
8. tech2 (Posts: 2028; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Yeah now I am confused as well ! The thing is, looking at the track record HTC might be lacking in battery and updates (few years down the line).
Whereas Samsung's quality of materials used, Amoled screen and 5 inch screen (personally) works towards its disadvantages
14. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Dude.. the galaxy S4 will be at least as compact as the HTC one, despite of the 5'' screen diagonal.
HTC one has a large top and bottom bezel and is as big as some 5 inchers out there
55. MrJerry (Posts: 393; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
I rather have physical home button than to have big bottom bezel
9. jan25 (Posts: 387; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
i think less diversity in the chipsets used in Android devices is good for the Android ecosystem.
10. datsyuk (Posts: 159; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
So bummed about this lol. I'd much rather have the PowerVR GPU versus the older Adreno 320 which has been out for quite some time now, even if the PowerVR isn't brand new it's still a better performer!
13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4000; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Even though the PowerVR SGX544MP3 would've been more powerful than the Adreno 320, the Adreno is still one beast of a GPU. Performance between the two would be negligible.
16. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually adreno 320 is newer and more modern GPU.
The SGX 5xx series is based on old architecture.
It may have more raw computing power than first A320 iterations, but A320 can be easily improved.
Just wait and see first benchmark results, you may be in for a surprise
11. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
So i guess south Korea was right about 4 being a bad luck number.
Hopefully they add the new global LTE chip
Other then that snapdragon has no problems with me
15. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
As long as the Exynos 5 Octa is in the Galaxy Note 3 then the BEST will be saved for last. Looks like i won't be purchasing the Galaxy S4 just for GP. I always purchase 2 devices a year in 2012 i had the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2. I don't want another jellybean device so looks like i might just purchase my first Motorola device since that 64gb version of the X phone will be out.
19. phil2n (Posts: 466; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
shortcut: you're saying you are rich, which i really don't care if how many devices you have.
20. nasznjoka (Posts: 339; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
That's a problem with you here we're sharing our mobile electronics experiences. So if he got em all what's your prob men. Stop it. You don't know what k kind of work he does and he whether needs his phones for work
22. darkkjedii (Posts: 11053; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Don't care if how many? How about... Don't care about how many? You also sound jealous of him. Shortcut: that was a wack post.
56. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
I wouldn't say I'm rich but i definitely ain't poor and can afford whatever i want and definitely need. I do what needs to be done from a professional standard to live by a standard.
24. Equilibrium (Posts: 18; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
I'd say highly likely for the U.S version but will still have my fingers crossed for the international version.
I am basing this on the fact that last years snapdragon S4 dual was used as it had LTE integrated, whilst the exynos didn't. (doesn't just yet, although I believe they were working on one)
27. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)
Snapdragon 600 - Galaxy S IV
Snapdragon 800 - Note III
36. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)
Read in some Korean website, can't find the darn link!
29. jove39 (Posts: 1278; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Exynos5 is something I was expecting in S4 but if samsung has to go for snapdraggon then they better use MSM8974 instead of APQ8064T
32. hypermagz (Posts: 18; Member since: 31 Dec 2012)
maybe its going to be RF 360(global LTE)? In the other news shows that the said chip will be available 2Q of this year...
37. cR203 (Posts: 188; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
Not having the exynos processor kinda takes away from the originality of the s4. All the previous galaxy devices had exynos processors. I hope the note 3 definitely has the exynos processor though.
40. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2163; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
That's actually not true at all. The US version of the S3 has a Qualcomm chip & multiple versions of the S2 do also.
41. true1984 (Posts: 588; Member since: 23 May 2012)
yeah the sprint vesion was the only one with the exynos in the US
42. cR203 (Posts: 188; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
I'm talking about the international versions. They most likely always use the exynos processor which is slightly faster in most cases. To me the international s3 was faster than the us variants. I have the international s3 and i had a tmobile s3. The international one was a better performer. I had the international s2 also and it was way faster than the snapdragon powered variants.
45. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2163; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
You should have said that, then, because your statement, as is, is false.
44. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
They had to put the Qualcomm chips for LTE. I'm sure they wouldn't use Qualcomm chips if they had LTE on their chip.
46. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2163; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
That's true in the case of the S3, but not the S2s that had the Snapdragon.
49. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Hm... I never knew that Skyrocket had a Snapdragon in it.
38. Deaconclgi (Posts: 260; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
When did "likely to shift" become a confirmation?
54. imran.bangi (Posts: 4; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
why not samsung make themself a LTE anabled SOC.