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Analyst gives Apple a deadline for the iWatch... or else

0. phoneArena 22 Mar 2014, 18:06 posted on

It is an extremely weird time for Apple analysts right now. With the announcement of Android Wear, Apple itself may not be all that shaken, but the analysts who make their living talking about Apple are definitely having strange reactions. We saw earlier that one analyst doesn't even believe that the iWatch is real, and if he is right, there is another analyst forecasting doom...

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posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:15

20. fzacek (Posts: 2232; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


Smartwatches are irrelevant and will never match up to a proper smartphone experience. Apple doesn't have to conform to any pointless trends in technology...

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 18:47

99. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Smart watches arent meant to match the smart phone experience.

Its supposed to be an accessory. An add on. Some one mentioned using their smart watch to take calls. Thats really useful. With just the bluetooth....you cant really tell if its a call you dont want to answer.

Weather update, check messages, notifications... it adds on to the smart phone experience.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:24 3

22. Topcat488 (Posts: 1173; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Well at least they're not ridiculing Apple for NOT finishing their imaps... O.o

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:26

24. engineer-1701d (Posts: 1245; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Apple is sitting back and watching what people are really sensitive and steel parts in each one and make their own

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:48 1

28. Scott93274 (Posts: 1358; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I think the guy who said that Apple's well being is hanging on if they reveal an iWatch in the next 60 days is an absolute idiot. Yes, their iPhone 5s didn't sell as well as people predicted... yes, iTunes revenue has dropped more than 10%... yes, their global market share is nearing the single digits... Yet they're still the number one company in America and still going strong.

... the funny thing about analysts though is that two years prior one stated that Apple's stock would be $2,000 by 2015. In two years it's gone up $20.00.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Analyst-sees-Apples-stock-hitting-2000-by-2015_id30000

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:50

29. LeBrownJames (Posts: 157; Member since: 17 Mar 2014)


Absurd prediction, but hey this is what analysts do.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:50 2

30. Taters (Posts: 3601; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Apple will eventually go the way of Nintendo. I.e. resorting to a gimmicky system and marketing to strictly casuals like the wii instead of a true Gamecube successor while Sony and Microsoft expand to keep the teens and mature hardcore gamers and go for the living room. Nintendo still has money but their market is going to dry up eventually and they could only milk Mario and Zelda for so long.

Apple is in the same boat. Android tablets are almost caught up with iPads and the iPhone has some strict competition from the Galaxy S phones so in this sense, yes they have to come up with something like an iwatch or better, basically their version of the wii or they will just lose and lose like Nintendo or stay entrenched in a specific market like the wii(kiddy and casual family).

Sure they have cash reserves and the popularity to stay profitable forever but their mindshare and market share definitely needs something. They can't live off hipsters and baristas forever. Lol

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:17 2

33. Ninetysix (Posts: 1680; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


LOL...Thank goodness you're not an analyst. Watch the iPhone 6 be the best selling smartphone of all time and the same with the iWatch. Can't wait to mock you when that happens. Another LOL at 100+ Android tablets vs one. Good job Android indeed.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:44 3

40. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


apple users have no option but to buy one product

look at bmw
3series
5series
1series
6series
7series

merc
a class
c class
m class
amg class
e class
sl class
slk class
clk class

these are providing 5 diffrent, and look at apple only 1, taking the pi ssss , stranded with only one option, really 1option

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:56

46. techloverNYC (Posts: 422; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


at least with that 1 option they don't have to worry about their devices being outdated and you know you got the best the system has to offer. Literally every andriod device gets outdated in 6 month or less.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:03 6

49. PBXtech (Posts: 984; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


Depends on what makes something outdated. Just because there are always new models being released doesn't mean a device is outdated. Using your logic, people shouldn't buy anything but the absolute newest iPhones, yet Apple continues to sell the previous models in tandem with the newest.

Personally, I view outdated as not being able to keep up with current technology. Just because a phone is six months to a year old doesn't mean it's outdated.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:27 2

54. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


but there device is outdated with subpar specs

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:57 1

47. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Just stop dude... Is this really what you want to do?.... So, you want to troll?

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:17 1

52. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


offtopic dude answer my question

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 01:41 2

77. Taters (Posts: 3601; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Too much common sense for you ifans eh? Long story short. People get bored of things easily, that is just human nature. And when your product portfolio consists of as little as Apple has, you have to eventually expand.

So Apple needs an iwatch or equivalent eventually. That is a fact....

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:24 1

36. Ninetysix (Posts: 1680; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/death_knell

LOL...Apple is dead/dying ..again???

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:41 3

39. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


epic and true post

what would apple do without fools and dumb average joes, apple would be like bb and nokiawp sinking ship

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:58

48. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


If WP died it's users would die happy.....

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 17:22 1

90. networkdood (Posts: 6327; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


WP did die once and most of its users went to Android...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:38

38. cncrim (Posts: 549; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


The wearable need to be stand alone device not tethered to another device, then it is a breakthrough otherwise it is unnessary accesory. I dont see a useful for galaxy gear,pebble..etc.. but if she equip with cell phone capable otherwise.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:49 1

42. xsmartphonex (Posts: 41; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


Apple is a b1tch for not announcing anything yet.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:54

44. techloverNYC (Posts: 422; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


who actually wears a smartwatch? No one here in NYC wears a smart watch, I seem some pebble watches but not any andriod or that stupid over priced samsung watch. Iphone users outnumbered the whole andriod market and yet this watch is the thing that will make apple not important anymore. I use a Nexus andriod device and I even find this to be a stupid prediction. Admit it or not iphone sells more than andriod.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:50

61. Topcat488 (Posts: 1173; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Just because Apple sucker it's customers to spend more money for a less capable phone, is not Androids fault... But Android destroys Apple in sells of cell phone numbers dude. O.o
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tonybradley/2013/11/15/android-dominates-market-share-but-apple-makes-all-the-money/

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:56 1

62. Ninetysix (Posts: 1680; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Why are you comparing Android to Apple? Android is a mobile OS and Apple is a company.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:51

68. willard12 (Posts: 887; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Ok, Samsung sells more than Apple. Better?

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 01:47 1

78. Ninetysix (Posts: 1680; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


McDonalds also sells more burgers than anyone.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 13:56

87. willard12 (Posts: 887; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


McDonald's also has the highest profits of any fast food chain. Since an iphone costs just a little bit more than a Big Mac to make, your point is well-taken.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:04

63. techloverNYC (Posts: 422; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


Sales numbers don't matter. The headline said apple make most or all of the money in the cell market. In the end its money aka the profit that make or brake a company. So 1 single company makes more profit than all the andriod phone makers combine, dont mean nothing to you? Recent researches shows most andriod phone makers are losing money, pretty much the only profitable andriod maker is Samsung and they copy apple.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/16/android_powers_7x_more_handsets_than_iphone_but_apple_bags_more/

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:02 2

70. willard12 (Posts: 887; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


This site is trafficked by consumers. From the consumer perspective, a company that sells fewer devices and makes more profit means they are selling cheap devices at high prices to consumers. So yes, profit does matter. The fact that a company is gouging you, and you are giving them credit for it, says a lot about the company and its customers. Apple's profits matter to me as an investor, not a consumer. Sells matter because once Apple falls behind Samsung in market share in the US, the will lose their ability to demand their ridiculous subsidies from carriers....and lose the profits you value so much. Also, Apple was banned by the ITC for copying Samsung. Also, Apple wrote an article published in every British newspaper that said Samsung didn't copy them.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:44

60. AfterShock (Posts: 2986; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Might be, giving apple the benefit of the doubt here but..they could be trying to lock it down so when the inevitable muggings start happening the watch becomes useless.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:19

65. KillgoreTroutTime (Posts: 399; Member since: 06 Jan 2014)


130 billion......that is insane.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 02:36 2

79. roscuthiii (Posts: 1873; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Someone should take back Trip Chowdry's analyst card.

#1- Apple has never been first to market a device. Smartphones & tablets, and even music players & computers... They've always waited to see where they could make improvements and add their own personal touches. The smartwatch category should be no different, historically speaking.

#2 - Even if they do field a smartwatch in the near term, it doesn't have to be successful at all. They've had a few products over the years that under performed, yet lo and behold, they're still a true success story.

#3 - As the "analyst" stated, their cash reserves are large enough to last them years before depletion. Years. Plenty of time to come up with an iWatch, an iGlass, or an iWhichever-product-category-is-burgeoning-at-the-t​ime.

Apple will be just fine, if not better.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 08:39

84. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8923; Member since: 14 May 2012)


They were the first to market a 64-bit mobile OS and mobile processor.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 21:21

94. roscuthiii (Posts: 1873; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


True... but, that's an incremental product development versus a new product category.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 06:53

81. naps73r (Posts: 1; Member since: 23 Mar 2014)


I totally agree.. a smart watch can simply not bring down a company.. just like in bluetooth headsets, smart watches too can be manufactured by third partys companies- which would be cheaper, and that all users will opt for..

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Apple may be behind in specifications as compared to some android phones, but again it depends on what you use your phone for. Higher specifications can only drain your battery, regardless of whether you use your phone or not.. While more cpu might be better, it can also reduce your battery level significantly, for which the phone becomes nothing more than just a brick.

the first time Apple introduced their iPhone, they were well 5 years in advance than any mobile platform in software and hardware.. After Open source OSes emerged into markets, numerous companies started manufacturing their products on a large scale; in the process, they also did start the competition between themselves, which is why you see companies (whose names probably never heard of before!) manufacturing phones with the CPU, RAM and GPU with similar to those of a high end PC! This drains the battery,and heats up the phone like anything.. While they claim their product maybe years ahead of Apple or any other company, their product is also at stake.. Some ppl might get away with this by saying that they have a power pack for their battery, but that makes the situation even worse..

Many mobile users use their phones for just 3 main things: 1. Socialize, 2. Gaming, 3. Calling. Socializing does not require a high end cpu or gpu, not much RAM is required as well.. Gaming depends on the type of games, yet most games on mobile platforms use a medium to high end cpu/gpu, and a decent amount of RAM..

Lastly but the most important , Calling: does not require any kind of high cpu/gpu/ram, the only thing it requires would be battery,.

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I am a tech fan, and I admire Apple and Google for their innovative ideas and products for the past decade.. I have been using Mac products for more than 20 years, which is why I can vouch for Apple that a mere watch can not tarnish them.. All that matters is stability and reliability.. But yes, a slight increase in the screen size of the phone would be of great help to ppl who cannot read smaller fonts..

Cheers!

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 10:50

85. sam3k (Posts: 34; Member since: 02 May 2013)


It would be interesting to see what apple will bring to the table is the wearable tech department, because samsung ,lg sony, and pebble snatched up all the good idea And features.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 11:54

86. amasog (Posts: 157; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


analyst analyst analyst... LOL!

after few days, they will change their predictions!!

LOL! False prophets at its worst!!

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 14:12 2

88. Honestcritic (Posts: 15; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)


Apple became an irrelevant company for me a long time ago

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 19:57 1

92. N3Z1droid (Posts: 89; Member since: 02 Jan 2014)


Nah... Apple will produce the iwatch, they just need to wait a bit longer for android wear came out first, see which one is good tech to copy then patent it. Well played Apple.... well played...

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