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Analyst gives Apple a deadline for the iWatch... or else

0. phoneArena 22 Mar 2014, 18:06 posted on

It is an extremely weird time for Apple analysts right now. With the announcement of Android Wear, Apple itself may not be all that shaken, but the analysts who make their living talking about Apple are definitely having strange reactions. We saw earlier that one analyst doesn't even believe that the iWatch is real, and if he is right, there is another analyst forecasting doom...

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posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:08 13

1. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


I'm sure Apple will be fine.....

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:13 9

2. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Apple wants dictatorship of the mobile tech world, which i hope plummets and democrasy rules

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:40

6. Finalflash (Posts: 1736; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


They can't litigate to win in the wearable department as easily so they'll be fighting that battle with both hands and legs tied behind their back.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:58 5

11. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


I think it's fair to say that every major tech company wants "dictatorship" of the mobile tech world... There's nothing wrong with that, it's natural, and it's just business..
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But, if you were to say that, lets say Google,, doesn't then that would be just pure unrealistic extreme bias...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:32 2

57. jroc74 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Its fine to want dictatorship....

How you go about it is another story tho. Google is doing it alot different than Apple. Google practically gives away phones and services.

And they have a plan to offer free or low cost wifi to everyone.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:12 2

71. DarkStar286 (Posts: 33; Member since: 18 Mar 2014)


Yeah, Google practically give away their stuff because that's not where they make their money. All Google are interested in is your personal data, that's why their stuff is so cheap; the more people using its platforms, the more data they collect.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 07:05 1

82. tedkord (Posts: 4732; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Nobody wants it. Once you get it, you've got the government breathing down your necks. That's why Bill Gates and MS bailed Apple out of insolvency all those years ago. Having 90% of the market is fine, but you need some token, viable competition to point to if you start getting scrutinized.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:14 2

32. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


Democracy being Google?

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:32

56. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


This dude... Man, he's crazy... Wait till his other troll buddy, "Alterecho" gets here...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:33 3

66. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3202; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Lol now this is trolling geez. Pathetic.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 15:32

89. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6429; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Look at those sorry analyst. Every company including MOTO have a smart watch. That shows you how desperate they are.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:59 3

12. lyndon420 (Posts: 1735; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Absolutely...they have enough loyal fans to keep them afloat whether or not they're late to the watch market. The trick is to make their products appealing again for possible new users of their (still limited) platform.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:02 3

14. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Theirs new users born everyday... Nothing last forever, but Apple pretty much has their business locked down for the foreseeable future.. The same with Google.. No news here..

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:02

15. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


There's....

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:29

25. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


all these helpless users and a user is stuck on there platform, making sure they never look elsewhere, so i and them will have to be commanded to apple

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:17 3

34. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


I find it amazing that people envisage the users of a different platform as somehow bamboozled into using it. Obviously unable to see the ambrosia that is the platform you chose.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:53

43. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Funny you mentioned that... Lol!!
Because we actually have a user, Alterecho, who admits that he was tricked multiple times into using WP... Lol!.. IDK..
Maybe you should ask him to explain...
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He can be found trolling here....
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia-Glance-updated-with-Windows-Phone-8.1-support_id54193

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:08 3

50. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


truth really hurts

and no he is not a troll, but pointing out the negative and drawback of the platform

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:26

53. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Lol!!!!!!!! Everyone on this article has identified you as a troll, yet instead of redeeming yourself you stand up for what could possibly be the biggest, most pathetic, troll on this site... Wow!!!!!!!
................
That's some hilarious $hizz.. You would stick up for him... LMFAO!!!!!!!!
............
What you trolls don't understand is that there is constructive criticism, and there is bashing.... Congratulations! You've just been inducted into the pathetic trollers hall of fame... Simply amazing..

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 00:48

96. SamDroid (unregistered)


You know what's really ironic is that you call him a troll just because he was stating his own opinion. Apparently he doesn't know how to control his anger because you guys started yappin and yappin. However, point is, this same guy (Arte-8800), was defending WP in a previous post and there he was called a fanboy. Why can't you guys let somebody just voice their opinions and get meaningful replies from like-minded people? So what his grammar isn't that good. Its not a crime to not know English, who said its compulsory to speak (or type) fluent English? Maybe thats where the misunderstanding began, because you couldn't really get what he was saying. Now the both of you are off arguing in every WP post on PA and trust me, it doesn't make you look more knowledgeable than the other. Try to cut people some slack over here when they post their opinions. Its not trolling if somebody did not have the luxury of growing up in an English speaking country, maybe its not even a luxury. Anyway thats my opinion on you two. Crucify me if you wish, but know that I won't reply if you post anything that isn't worth reading.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 08:02 1

97. lyndon420 (Posts: 1735; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Very well worded bud. Nice to see some mature content posted in here.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:54 2

69. appleDOESNT.com (Posts: 432; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


utterly ridiculous, apple will not be become irrelevant because of a silly watch or no watch. smart watches have the 3d tv part deux written all over it, everybody says we want one and in reality nobody actually does... this analyst is a iDiot

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:28 1

75. Doakie (Posts: 1250; Member since: 06 May 2009)


Yeah I agree. I'm not an Apple fan at all but these analysts really need to get over themselves. These guys predict all sorts of stupid doom and gloom. Apple isn't going anywhere.

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 00:19

95. lyndon420 (Posts: 1735; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


When you are referring to everybody & nobody, who exactly are you speaking on behalf of? I personally can't wait to get my wrist into one of these things especially if they can make them last at least 2 full days on a charge with heavy useage.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:17 7

3. darkkjedii (Posts: 11202; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


All the IWatch needs to be is good. Whenever they release it, if it's rocking then it's all good. Doesn't really matter when. Apples last announcements come in late fall, so there lies the window.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:50 6

8. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


just like my ip5s32gb which i was really hoping and wishing it had
quadcore cpu and quadcore gpu
720p screen or 1080p would be superb with 433ppi pixels and a better long lasting 2000mah 0r 1800 mah battery
no 720p scren
ive paid dam 550 sterling yes thats 880dollars which is hell alot of money for a dam midrange phone wtf, i demand more for that money

that really suckkks

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:07 7

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 11202; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude can you please go away. I do not wanna converse with you man, really I don't. Please stop responding to my posts, I can't make you, and I'm aware of that, so I'm asking politely. Please go away dude.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:09 6

18. Astoni (Posts: 503; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


He's a troll, try just to ignore him.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:18 4

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 11202; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Man bro, I'm trying. This dude is trolling like white on rice. I've had my fill of him, and just want him go go away. +1 bro

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:34 5

26. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


troll..../?. where do you see me hating or insulting others ?

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 07:08 2

83. tedkord (Posts: 4732; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That's not the definition of trolling.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:55

45. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Oh, god.. You should see him troll on WP articles... Dang, he's $tui#...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:14 5

51. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


so disliking and pointing out the positive and negative is know the new name called troll, and disliking something is classed as troll.... really

so if i hate and dislike prada paulsmith audi ford and ferrari and state negative reviews and views is classed as trolling

lmao thats really so funny

i dont call or say anyone a troll, fare if you have and give credit where its due thats a plus point

but hey be yourself be cool not a fool

chill dude no ab hominem attack and insults

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:39

58. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Well, if you don't want to be called a troll then figure out why people are calling you one, and correct your behavior... Not our problem though... But, we will continue to call you a troll if the shoe fits... Just accept it if you're not willing to change.....
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For example, I love MS products, so I get called Elops pool boy, and Ballmer's Biach, but I'm not gonna change so I laugh it off because I know it's true...
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Now, you know you're a pathetic troll, so own up to it and quit asking for our sympathy..

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:15 5

64. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


but im not a fanboy like you i dont admire or am a fanboy that praise companies like you so your point is invalid

i enjoy tech, unlike you who praise ms wp nokia

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 22:37 2

67. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


See, you've been hanging around those pathetic trolls to long...
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First, I don't praise MS/Nokia all that much, rather I say that WP/Lumia devices are freekin awesome!.. What is wrong with that?. What's wrong with being a fan?.. Especially considering the fact that I do it on WP/MS/Lumia related articles.. I'd say if a dumba$$$ troll doesn't want to hear WP fans speaking positive about a platform they love,, then don't visit the comment section of a WP article....

Second, the only one who would be bothered about someone praising, or being a fan of a specific OS would be a pathetic troll.... Does it bother you when I say WP is awesome??? Do you think it bothers me when I here someone say that iOS, or Android, is awesome?... No, because I know that they see value in their platform, and I do in mine as well.....
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it's simple.. Just stop being so negative... And, if you have something negative to say about someone else 's platform then give some constructive advice on what can be done to fix it, or some valuable input about the problem other than "Apple sux, and the fans are all mindless"... Do you understand?

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:15 3

72. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


so apple charging 800 dollars for a mid spec phone is ok
when the 1520 1020 has great specs than apple is right price for us to pay

that sucks

are u telling me thast nokia 1520 should cost 1000 dollars not 750 dollars

come on hipsters hippys cults they are mindless abnormal, they believe apple is the first, they believe apple is the best and nothing is, while others provide are 4 years ahead of apple, dsnt that sukkkk
did i insult them, no, just saying

come on ur a wise upto date guy or looks like u dont keep up with tech

i visit
gsmarena
phonedog
bgr
technobuffalo
macworld
anandtech
9to5
engadget
pocketnow
and many others to keep up with tech and business economic news

its being wise, not a cult hippy

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:27 1

55. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Lol!!!!... Dang.. That was funny..

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:54 1

76. darkkjedii (Posts: 11202; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


What he doesn't understand is apple can charge this amount, cuz the market dictates what a product can command price point wise. It's not about specs, it's about value, apples brand is more valuable than the others. A Ferrari is a car like a corvette, but the Ferrari brand is far more valuable, so it commands a higher price tag. You can bash apple all you want, but their brand is rock solid well known well liked a household name, and synonymous with dependability and value. Get over it dude, apple is a beast in the game dude. Your constant badgering won't change that, running your mouth on PA will get you green thumbs, and nothing more.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:22 1

35. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


"which i was really hoping and wishing it had quadcore cpu and quadcore gpu"

It does have a Quad Core GPU ...... and exactly why do you need a "Quad" CPU? The A7 is one of the fastest CPUs out there..... just throwing in more cores do not equal performance and ahhh I cant be arsed now. Obvious troll is obvious. Still, at least do a bit of googling before you fling around crap.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:33 2

37. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


really then why did apple iphone 4 had single cpu and on the 4s a dual, whats next on ip6 720p quadcore cpu, o they even copied drop down notification, next ,,,,,

having a v8 engine is better than a v6

having 4 people doing 2peoples job is smooth
driving a 300hp car than a 200hp is much better
4wd is better than 2wd
get some knwldge

having 4 cpus instead of 2 has less strain on cpu so it would save battery and be idle clocked at 280ghx instead of 600ghz

so why did apple use pvrsgx dualcore gpu insteadof single, better performance

sorry yes the ip5 and 5s does but not the 4s has got 2gpu

your avatar name has geeky and you call me a troll when you are one and talks like one please

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:45 2

41. darkkjedii (Posts: 11202; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I think you are "Troll TM"

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 19:53

91. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


"really then why did apple iphone 4 had single cpu and on the 4s a dual"

Because technology? What's your point? You can only add so many cores before you run into diminishing returns, heat, power drain etc.

What Apple did with the A7 was to make it *better* not just throw more cores at it. If its faster than pretty much every "quad" core out there, how is this a bad thing? Just because 2 is less than 4? This is so stupid....

"having a v8 engine is better than a v6"

Dear god. No car analogies please, that's just silly. A CPU isn't a car engine. Might as well compare it to a pineapple.

"having 4 people doing 2peoples job is smooth
driving a 300hp car than a 200hp is much better
4wd is better than 2wd
get some knwldge"

All of which have nothing to do with CPU architecture. Congrats.

"having 4 cpus instead of 2 has less strain on cpu so it would save battery and be idle clocked at 280ghx instead of 600ghz"

That's not actually true. More cores = more power, and certainly more heat. Why do you think Apple disabled one of the A7s GPUs in the 5S? Because the iPad has a bigger battery and a larger structure to support the thermal requirements.

More cores only speed up the workload on a CPU when something is multi-threaded. The A7 clocks itself up and down also depending on its load.....

"your avatar name has geeky and you call me a troll when you are one and talks like one please"

I do not see the connection?

Anyway excuse me while I go fill up my iPhone with 4 star.

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 21:11

93. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


see its all about specs and power

i advise you to stick to your ip4 and never upgrade to 6,6s,7,7s...

next year ip7 will have quadcore cpu
ip6s will have 1080p display catching up with android

apples gives its users 3 years old specs for the price of a highend android phone

wait apples ios is light os which needs only 200mb ram to operate

its a darwin unix os platform

wp8 uses androids highend specs on 1520 930 lumia, wp8 is a light os like ios

fill ur ip4 with 4star petrol while others filling super unleaded, ooops i mean cheap disel petrol

posted on 24 Mar 2014, 15:28

98. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


"see its all about specs and power"

No its not..... its about software. That's what makes a useful device. Not how many cores it has.

"i advise you to stick to your ip4 and never upgrade to 6,6s,7,7s...

next year ip7 will have quadcore cpu
ip6s will have 1080p display catching up with android"

Perhaps they will. It's hardly 'catching up' btw when the A7 is currently the fastest CPU on mobile, full fledged 64bit and custom silicon by Apple. It even has a portion of the SoC to keep fingerprint data secure. All very impressive really. Except for people that look for the highest GHZ and Cores as a measure of performance.

"apples gives its users 3 years old specs for the price of a highend android phone"

The A7 uses ARMv8.... what are you talking about? Please show me an Android device out now that also uses ARMv8.

"wait apples ios is light os which needs only 200mb ram to operate

its a darwin unix os platform"

That's a good thing........

"wp8 uses androids highend specs on 1520 930 lumia, wp8 is a light os like ios"

Yes it does. I own one (1520) as well as an iPhone 5S. It's not 'androids high end specs' btw. ARM does not belong to Google, nor does Qualcomm.

"fill ur ip4 with 4star petrol while others filling super unleaded, ooops i mean cheap disel petrol"

Urm. Ok?

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:19 7

4. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 425; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)


Google now is the future , if your phone,tablet, or smart device dont have U lose

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:32 2

5. brrunopt (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Anal ysts , what else...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:47

7. nctx77 (Posts: 495; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


You know you have made it when you're getting ridiculed for a product you never said you were making. Everyone is just thirsty to see what Apple is capable of after Steve. Apple is doomed talks have been going around before Steve could be buried. Until Apple release a new product under Tim, it will continue.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:54 6

9. jroc74 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Wow..

I dont really like Apple or their products....but to think the future of the company hangs on whether they come out with an iWatch is kinda.....crazy.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:00 2

13. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Yeah, it's pretty stupid...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:06

16. jroc74 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Now....if they woulda said Nintendo....that is putting most of their eggs in the health sector soon...with some Quality of Life platform....

Nintendo wont survive going up against Apple in health. If this iWatch is part of Apple's health thing....the battle between Apple and Nintendo will be one to watch.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:35

27. Scott93274 (Posts: 896; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I'm sorry, but I haven't been following Nintendo news in a while... but how in the world do you pit Nintendo and Apple as eachother's competition?

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 20:12 1

31. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3540; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


In activity, and health... Using technology for a healthier life...

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:23 1

74. Scott93274 (Posts: 896; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


The primary function of a iPhone is not a fitness tool, it may have health related apps, but it's not a fitness product. Nintendo came out with Wii Fit, that doesn't make it a fitness product, it may have a game focused on fitness, but it is a gaming/entertainment device first and foremost. If someone has a Wii U, they're not going to say that they no longer need a smart phone, because they serve different purposes, different markets.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 21:40

59. jroc74 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


rodney already explained it....

Just read up on iWatch + health, Nintendo + QOL. For health...they will be in competition.

Strange part with Nintendo tho....they mentioned non wearables for their QOL thing. Still dont know what that means.

Already some analyst blame the failure of the Wii U on mobile gaming. And that is one of Apple's biggest pros. In some 6 degrees of separation way they already do compete with each other. I still dont think mobile gaming is the cause of the Wii U failing tho.

Doing more reading...Nintendo has a chance to be big in the health sector.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 23:17

73. Scott93274 (Posts: 896; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Both are tech giants, but they are not competitors. Nintendo is before anything else a gaming company, their two main competitors are Microsoft and Sony, because they offer alternative products to what Nintendo offers.While Apple does have mobile gaming on their iPhones, a person is not going to buy an iPhone because they already have a Wii U, Both products serve different functions and purposes. That is not to say that one market doesn't affect another. You cannot say that your local Gym is a competitor to the iPhone because it has a pedometer app, would you?

As for Nintendo failing, it is simply because they're not providing the hardware specs that the market demands, 3rd party software sells significantly less on their system, which results in a much smaller library of games. And frankly it's just not cool to have a Nintendo system any more.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 18:55

10. Leonis (Posts: 334; Member since: 08 Jan 2014)


The analyst did a great job with the ipad predictions.... NOT!

All I know is Apple will do a great job when they release their smartband and smart watches. Seeing how bad the smartwatches are right now... its safe to say Apple got at least another year to get this right.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:25

23. engineer-1701d (Posts: 889; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


How can u say another year that will put them 3 if not 4 years behind as they figure out that technology and what to put in everyone else was passing them people will say it just works, and yes it will because it will be the simplest things not like the rest of the technology from the other manufacturers

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 04:05

80. Leonis (Posts: 334; Member since: 08 Jan 2014)


Having the latest technology does not mean anything is better just by that. Its what the thing will do for you that matter more. You still have no clue of what Apple iwatch will look or do for us. You have no idea if Apple wont release something that will actually be ground breaking. The first iphone wasn't a really big hit either.

posted on 22 Mar 2014, 19:15 2

19. PBXtech (Posts: 977; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


I predict that in 60 days that analyst will be out a job for making such an outrageous prediction.

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