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Analyst: Nokia Lumia 1020 and Sony Xperia Z both off to a slow start in the states

0. phoneArena 29 Jul 2013, 20:20 posted on

Wall Street analyst William Power toils for R.W. Baird and as part of his job, he checked out AT&T and T-Mobile stores to get the lay of the land on a couple of hot phones; the two handsets are the Nokia Lumia 1020 and the Sony Xperia Z. Ever since CES at Las Vegas in January, the Sony Xperia Z has captured quite a buzz with its water and dust resistant capabilities and top-shelf specs...

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posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:24 8

1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"plus the hassle of learning a whole new OS (Windows Phone 8), are two of the factors keeping sales down."

Memo to Elop & Nokia board of directors: Take note - your decision to go exclusively WP is costing you sales. Sammy managed to sell 20 m of the Note II at a retail price similar to that of the L1020, so it isn't price that is holding back sales of the L1020.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 23:35 1

36. snowgator (Posts: 3601; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


As i repeated down below Doug, this is a story about Nokia AND Sony starting with slow sales. Sony HAS Android. It is not a street paved with Gold.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 23:46 6

37. TakashiDeo (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 20 Jul 2013)


well for sony its quite ok
because xperia z was launched in january ,8 months ago
so now there are more better options available in android
as.sony put xperia z late in states
and xperia z already sold well and good in other countries,
but this lumia 1020 is brand new
and still.its having a slow start
so nokia shud really do something
as already samsung has taken a huge lead again this quarter or year

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 00:06 1

38. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


And i have no idea why Xperia Z took so many months to come to that carrier...

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 00:26

42. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


snow - see my response at 41. below.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:25 1

2. stulla (Posts: 18; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


so what...nokia will still sell millions of these phones..

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:31 10

5. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1217; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


so if nokia sells 1 million phones, you consider that as "selling millions" ?

the sales of all nokia WP8 phones are bad when compared to the rest of the competition.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 00:09 3

39. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


It doesnt matter how many they sell when you compare to other companies - They might be very low compared to Samsung, but they need to achieve two things first - raise the userbase of windows phone (so that it gains enough attention for developers to develop more apps for it) and go back to profitability. Both of these 2 things require an increase in sales every quarter, but not necessarily shooting up to Samsung's sales numbers in a short period of time.

The problem with most people here, they dont welcome more choices, having another 2 or 3 OS at most in addition to iOS and Android in the smartphone market isnt a bad thing. You can choose whatever you like, but it doesnt mean you can force your opinions on others.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 00:24 3

40. kanagadeepan (Posts: 946; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


We welcome choices if its better than available earlier in market... So NO-NO for WP.. Infact we are eagerly waiting for Ubuntu and sail-fish OS... If they again turned to be like another WP, then again NO-NO for them too...

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:41 2

9. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


I'll be the first to admit that I'm a Samsung fanboi and I can tel you that the Galaxy s4 zoom is crap. That being said the Nokia's 1020 "camerphone" is crap as well. Only hardcore Windows/Nokia fanbois will buy that phone but soccer moms will buy the crappy S4 zoom just because it's Samsung/Google.
No wonder that Nokia VP was complaining today.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:54 3

16. Mr-Robert (banned) (Posts: 23; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


It will take another year for Nokia to sell another 10Million

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:09 5

20. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


It's like selling ferrari not toyota.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:17 11

24. Mr-Robert (banned) (Posts: 23; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


Ferrari really with those outdated specs:
Adreno225
S4 CPU
720P
330PPI
More like Toyota!

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 09:13 1

46. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Im giving u guys example, learn some stuff go to school.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:23 7

27. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Ferrari do not get beaten by a Toyota.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:31 9

30. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


In fact, I don't think Ferrari made by Nokia can beat a year old Toyota(galaxy note II). Sad Ferrari indeed.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 10:56

49. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


but u have a dream to drive ferrari isn't?

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:26 3

3. Bootutu (Posts: 228; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Ouch!, too expensive lumia, should stay in first gear if they don't hand them out for free, for Z it's been a long time now people, watch out for Honami baby

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:27 7

4. mi55u (unregistered)


stupid at&t and t-mo, wake me up when note3 release, these thing are boring...

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:33 5

6. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Wait a second! I thought all the pre-orders for the 1020 were all gone. So basically Nokia made only 3 phones.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:55 3

17. Mr-Robert (banned) (Posts: 23; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


Right and only AT&T had 12 in stock

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:34 4

7. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


A hint for Sony........PUT HONAMI ON MORE THAN ONE U.S CARRIER!!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:37 4

8. mikewillz (Posts: 52; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Exactly. Every time they have a phone Im interested in, it's only available on ATT.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:27 4

29. Mr-Robert (banned) (Posts: 23; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


Cause no other carriers have interest in NokiaWP8! Cause they know it won't sell well. It will be a big loss taking a gamble on Nokia.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:42 3

10. darkkjedii (Posts: 22155; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Wp8 just isn't getting the love for some reason. Nice platform too

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:47 2

13. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


They're getting love, its just they are getting 3rd place love...which is not a bad thing by any means. Gotta hold on to what you have and stay focused.

PS. And this is coming from someone who actually doesn't like Microsoft lol

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:00 1

18. darkkjedii (Posts: 22155; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Lol, I actually like it yo. It's weird, cuz it's actually a nice OS. My fiancé has the 8X. +1

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:52 4

14. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


IMO, tiles. Same reason W8 computers aren't selling as well as 7 did when it was first released. It is a nice platform, but too rigid on what changes you can make to it. Android is king for reasons like that and even Apple is giving people customization options these days.

In W8 you have a desktop mode, why not do that for phones? Let me choose to not use tiles and I'd be more likely to buy one.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:12 1

22. darkkjedii (Posts: 22155; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You're right Goog, when apple showed ios7 I finally saw how much customization mattered. Google was really on to something with it. It's truly a driving force in mobile tech. +1

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 21:01 2

19. Mr-Robert (banned) (Posts: 23; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


No it's not. Even Apple iOs has better feautres than Wp8. iP5 is. Much better than Lumia1020 and Lumia 920.
But your a Troll that doesn't like Wp8, that users have mentioned befor...?

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