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Analyst: Fingerprint scanner coming to the sapphire home button of the Apple iPhone 5S

0. phoneArena 11 Aug 2013, 01:36 posted on

It seems like it has been ages since we started hearing that the next iteration of the Apple iPhone would feature a fingerprint scanner that would be connected to the phone's home button; now, KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, considered to be well-connected to Apple, confirms that by using a convex button instead of the usual concave shape, Apple will make room for such a feature in the next iteration of the device...

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posted on 11 Aug 2013, 01:52 23

1. SingDaFire (Posts: 74; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)


It'll be another fail like the apple maps.. Anyway good Luck

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:49 3

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5282; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


IDK about another fail. A fingerprint scanner could be an enhanced security option. My problem is this late, a fairly significant 'feature' is getting added? Maybe for the iP6, there will be a fingerprint scanner. But not for the 5S. If there was a fingerprint scanner for the 5S, it would have leaked by now.

Timmy doesn't run as tight a security (from leaks) shop as Steve did.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 12:38 1

52. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Enchanced security option? Biometrics is not so secure nor is it accurate. If you used fingerprint scanner before, it is a pain in the alpha if scanned wrong or if finger was not placed correctly for a reading. Also fingerprint scanners can be easily defeated. The foolish thoughts of chopping one's finger off by a thief is retarded. To me apple is another company screaming novelty with this feature.

Fingerprint scanner used in conjuntion with heart pulse or retinal image would prove harder to defeat. Again the issues would still be for users are is my finger placed correctly for a clean reading. If so when I use it for access of my device or a secured area. In a rush would my finger placement be in the correct position for the sensor/software to make a match with my stored print?

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 14:45

57. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5282; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Perhaps Apple has managed to improve on the weaknesses of previous fingerprint scanners? If they haven't, the iScanner will flop like others have in the past.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 07:53 9

23. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5645; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


And Apple going too say we invented this & patent.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:30 1

27. darkkjedii (Posts: 9290; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Oh lord, here you go again.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:12 8

34. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3657; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Well, to be fair dark, Apple isn't exactly known for being the most "fair" with their patents.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:00 1

40. darkkjedii (Posts: 9290; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Yes that's true, but gadget over does it with the patent thing. Maybe apple does too huh?

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:14

42. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3657; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


It is a little much to comment negatively on almost every Apple article that may have to do with patents, but it isn't really wrong either. But, I won't criticize Apple on this fingerprint scanner unless I hear about them suing Motorola for the original Atrix (or any other company that has used fingerprint scanners on their devices that I haven't heard about).

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:50 1

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 9290; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Now that would truly be something to call them out on. One thing I will say about apple though, is when the do adopt existing tech, they implement it in cool way. We'll see what they do with this.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:56 1

31. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


But now you can finger SIRI (if you know what i mean) lol

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:59 2

33. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4601; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Motorola ATRIX had fingerprint scanners, but seems that this idea failed since Motorola no more releases phones with fingerprint scanners. Other companies also didn't follow Motorola. Lenovo was releasing laptops with fingerprint scanners, but seems that they also no more cultivate this idea. Seems that all this happened not without a reason, I don't think that this idea will succeed with Apple too.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:46

45. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


It will (do better than what you mentioned) because Apple is doing it, people will think it is the best thing ever and Apple will be seen as "innovative" (as usuall). At the end of the day Apple will probably utilize the feature better than the ATRIX and lenovo laptops as well.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 11:53 1

49. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4601; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Yes, I know about that and I agree with you. But if there will be a lot of problems with fingerprint scanning or if it not become popular, I believe that even Apple brand name won't help and Apple will remove it from upcoming iPhone models. But I agree with you that Apple will try to create more hype about fingerprint scanning feature than previous companies did and people who are not into tech will believe that it is something new and innovative.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:26

43. appleDOESNT.com (Posts: 390; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


nm nm nm

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:37 1

44. verbalize (Posts: 67; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Yes just like Samsungs Water resistant phone. LOL

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 12:27 2

51. akki20892 (Posts: 2667; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


customer: Oh god it's not scanning my finger print, then bringing iPhone in apple store.
Then apple will told them u need to replace this, it cost u 100$ if u not gonna replace this then your iPhone not gonna unlock.

posted on 12 Aug 2013, 05:13

65. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2099; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Apple: U gonna replace your finger.
How about that??? HAHAHAHAHA...

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 01:56 4

2. mariosuneo4 (banned) (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


waiting for iPhone 5S or whatever the name will be
apple make it fast

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 02:14 1

3. ngyixian96 (Posts: 62; Member since: 05 Feb 2012)


It's totally useless

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 05:33 8

18. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 308; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


A secure way to unlock your phone or possibly to verify your identity if it gets stolen. No need to remember lock paths, codes or anything. Just swipe your finger and your phone unlocks. Yep totally useless. Unless it was google nexus feature, then it will be praised by android fans like a god made feature that apple will copy one day.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:30 1

26. buccob (Posts: 1046; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Well I love Android, but I admit that my first Android phone was the Motorola Atrix 4G mainly because of the cool Fingerprint scanner feature.. I saw the potential of it, and to this day I still think it is the most secure and fastest way to unlock your phone... After that I had the Galaxy S3 and then Xperia Acro S and the only feature I will ever miss from that Moto is the Fingerprint Scanner....

It makes way more sense to have such scanner than a Face unlock... and it even makes more sense to have it in a phone than in a notebook... for the sole reason that we unlock our notebooks around 5~10 times a day, and we unlock our phones nearly 100 times a day...

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:54

30. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 308; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


It can also work as verification tool if your iPhone gets stolen, it can lock the phone and you can only unlock it with your finger print. Also It can be used when you buy apps instead of adding your code all the time just swipe your finger. Of course in case it doesnt work in that rare occasion it will have backup verifications etc.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:30 1

37. buccob (Posts: 1046; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Well and not only that, I remember that my old Toshiba laptop came with a fingerprint scanner software that, besides letting you add encryption to files, it would allow you to use a specific finger of your hand to launch specific apps or websites...

It would be really could if this can get implemented... to use your fingers as app-launcher shortcuts...

I.E.
Index: Unlock Phone
Middle Finger: Open Web Browser
Ring Finger: Open Camera

etc

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:43 2

38. tedkord (Posts: 3932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It was a Motorola Atrix feature over two years ago. Apple users thought it was useless, so you see it goes both ways.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 11:43

48. scott5626 (Posts: 49; Member since: 01 Sep 2009)


That's because most things by android are half backed. (Hello Touchwiz )

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 18:34

59. Tuxedo (Posts: 100; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


This is so true. Apple will not release this until they get it right. That's how Apple got where it is today.

posted on 12 Aug 2013, 03:28

63. willard12 (Posts: 553; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


While most things by Apple just work....(hello Apple Maps)

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 02:27 7

4. nobelset (Posts: 265; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


It's not going to be useless if they do it right. If it was me I would design it in a way that when you push the home button it will automatically scan your fingerprint and unlock the phone straight away. In a sense it's an unlock button that's far more secure xD

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 02:31 11

5. Shatter (Posts: 1766; Member since: 29 May 2013)


All is well till someone steals your iphone and cuts off your fingers to get into it.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 02:38 1

6. xperiaDROID (Posts: 4828; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


More iPhones are stolen with your fingers than any other smartphone...

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:32

28. darkkjedii (Posts: 9290; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


So some people steal iPhones with their toes? You kinda sounded like Dorothy/Doyle69 with that one.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 02:55

7. nobelset (Posts: 265; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Well who told you to buy an iPhone!! XD

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:03

9. emadshiny (Posts: 1088; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


LOL...

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 04:35

16. Igneel (Posts: 19; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


I don't think anyone would take that much effort just to steal a phone.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 07:54

24. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5645; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Or copy your fingerprints too.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:43

13. promise7 (Posts: 224; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


maybe i read it wrong, but the fingerprint sensor is in the home button. they r just going to change the shape of the home button to convex instead of concave.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:01 11

8. Sniggly (Posts: 6490; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Interesting. A fingerprint scanner (which worked really well) didn't help the Atrix sell that well. *shrugs* I guess it's time for the iFinger jokes.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:16 1

11. clevername (Posts: 1407; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


i thought the same.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:24

12. illusionmist (Posts: 81; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)


Unless Apple has more use of it than just to unlock the phone, that is.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 05:41

20. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 308; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


Maybe thats your opinion. The scanner wasnt on the best possible position on the phone, back then android wasnt all that fast and had lots of security issues, the phone its self wasnt a well known brand, atrix? And many other factors possibly made the atrix be forgotten. Now if Samsung did it well on S4 I am sure it would be great. No ones fault that no one on android have tried it besides motorola few years ago.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:46 3

39. tedkord (Posts: 3932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Motorola wasn't a well known brand? Where, Mars?

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 14:35

56. VZWuser76 (Posts: 986; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I've had a couple laptops with a fingerprint scanner and can honestly say unless HUGE improvements are made I wouldn't consider one again. Most times it took anywhere from to 5 to 15 times to get an unlock. Not a fan of the swiping method.

Why couldn't they use the camera lenses and flash? I have a blood pressure app that asks you to place your finger on the lens cover and turns on the led flash steady to read it. Now in that case they could read the fingerprint AND check for a pulse, which would eliminate the security bypass of photocopy/picture or severed finger.

posted on 12 Aug 2013, 03:36

64. willard12 (Posts: 553; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


I think the fingerprint scanner on the atrix was in a good place where it could be used with one hand while the phone was being held naturally. I'm not sure if the 1 hand operation apple touts can be achieved with the scanner on the home button. I also believe the atrix was only on at&t in the US. that's the main reason it was forgotten.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 18:40

60. Tuxedo (Posts: 100; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


I had an Atrix and its scanner did not work well at all. Low scanning success rate made it pointless to use. It was a hassle just to unlock the darn thing.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:15

10. clevername (Posts: 1407; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


i may be mistaken. but since the iphone 4 apple has used sapphire glass for the iphone. so, why is this a surprise to anyone? they've been using sapphire for the home screen for years

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 03:53

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5282; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


You are mistaken. The iP5 came with a rear camera lens of sapphire. The display was Gorilla Glass.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:36

29. darkkjedii (Posts: 9290; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Way wrong dude

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 05:30

17. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


I wish apple get rid of the physical home button and use a capacitive one

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 05:40

19. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


this is a huge invasion of privacy. wow. not only does the gov and tech companies have our private info. they plan on getting our fingerprints as well?! whats next retina scanners.

does this not scare anyone else

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 07:32

22. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


No....just you dude...besides they have got half the countries fingerprints in databases already! Mate stop being a scaremongerer

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 06:27

21. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 724; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)


LIL' innovation..

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:06

25. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 270; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


I am not sure whether this feature will work so great for a smartphone. The owner of the smartphone will leave his fingerprints all over the screen. I am sure that some tech guys will figure out a way to use these fingerprints to unlock the phone somehow. Still, going to be a nice phone anyway.I guess the real update will come next year with the iPhone 6.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 08:59

32. Samsungadroidrules (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Jul 2013)


Woahh. Go APPLE, if this iPhone 5S won't feature any advanced or innovative features and performance, I guarantee you that your company will suffer , look what happened to Nokia and where are they now. If this iPhone 5S will be a blast, I'll buy it.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:16

35. Qvergnugen (Posts: 6; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


I wonder how the manufacturers of protective cases are going to handle this new feature?

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 09:19

36. T12RYK (Posts: 98; Member since: 10 Jun 2011)


Its a much better way to secure your phone, unlike Androids Face Unlock feature. I can actually see people using this as its already located on home button. I'm not an Android hater or anything but if Apple do include this feature it won't be a 'gimmick' which is what a lot of Android (mainly Samsung) features are.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:09

41. 1113douglas (Posts: 170; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)


Oh here we go again. U call this invitation.?

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 10:48

46. fay99 (Posts: 46; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Fingerprint scanner is a common feature on a lot of android phones in Japan in a long while. Most people here in north America just know Samsung and htc. I don't see anything is innovative from Apple, unless they prove that their sensor really has a lot of differences than the others.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 13:15 1

54. Shatter (Posts: 1766; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Its nothing new or special, Apple will act like it is if the rumor is true.

posted on 11 Aug 2013, 12:09 1

50. bucky (Posts: 1222; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Android article on website full of fandroids = 9 comments.
Apple article on fandroids website = 50+ every time.

I think there are quite a few fandroids that are secretly not happy about their phones...

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