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Analyst: Apple iPhone 5, game over

0. phoneArena 16 Dec 2012, 23:34 posted on

Following Monday's downgrade of Apple shares by Citigroup, shares of the Cupertino based firm's suppliers have been falling on Monday as one analyst says that demand for the Apple iPhone 5 has peaked in the U.S. and was just "so-so" in China; shares of Foxconn parent Hon Hai Precision were the biggest loser as of Monday morning in Asia...

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posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:42

39. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

it was not bias..i was just saying what i see from my observation in real life not here in PA where most users are android fans!

a lot of people wants an iPhone...all ages, all statuses that like the iPhone!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:01 2

48. dsDoan (Posts: 229; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)

"A lot of people" is the term you should have used. You said "most" want an iPhone. You have nothing to base the idea that most people want an iPhone on.

Both platforms have a large user base, let's just leave it at that, and not assume what we think they want.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:25 8

51. tedkord (Posts: 11956; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Not everyone wants an iPhone, and its not due to poverty. I could afford an iPhone for each day of the week if i wanted one, but you won't find one in my pocket.

Much of what's been posted is true - the RDF died with Steve Jobs, and people aren't being fooled into believing that the 5 is anything more than the 4s stretched (with crappy maps). They're also seeing clearly just how far android has blasted past iOS in features and function, while equaling it in smoothness and fluidity.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:26 3

52. joey_sfb (Posts: 5841; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

So you think apple would care about people that unable to feed their high PROFIT margin. They even taser those that refuse to leave their store after been told so.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:01 5

14. wendygarett (unregistered)

Just let them speak, I'm get used of it anyway...
Besides, this might be a wake up calls for Apple for not trying to fool the ifans...

I introduced a lot of android device to my fellow iFriends, they say it's awesome... And they skipped the iPhone 5 is because they had too much of ios6 device...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:44 2

42. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

yeah... but its just annoying that they hate apple coz iPhones sells well even it is overprice!

the only thing hateful on iPhone is its price!! but over all its a good phone!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:33 4

54. joey_sfb (Posts: 5841; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Disagree. Good phone compare to what. I have used iOS in 2008 - 2011. From then, i don't think it could even be consider a smart phone as its only an iPod that can make phone call. iPhone feature can only be compare to modern days feature phone, not even a low end android devices

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 07:08 1

83. TechDork (Posts: 292; Member since: 10 May 2010)

I'd have to agree Joey. I mean, if you take away the app store (which is really what makes the iPhone), what do you have? Exactly. I'm not bashing the iPhone, but when it comes to iOS, they really need to amp it up, a lot. As for the screen, widen it out about an inch. Give us some extra room to type on.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 07:30 1

87. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)

if the phone was free, I would still even think about it. What features on a apple phone an android can't? nothing. What features on a android phone an apple can't? everything.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:57

100. TritonForceX (Posts: 60; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)

As I've posted before, the hate for Apple stems from its, and its fanbase's arrogance. For years, it was what everything was compared to, and was used to show an up-and-coming system's flaws, e.g. Android. I kept reading articles like, "New Android phone comes out, but the graphics, beauty, ease of use, etc., etc., doesn't compare to that of the expertly crafted, almighty iPhone." And Apple fans just adopted the crap that was just being shoveled out without blinking. Now that the tables have turned, and they're not top dog, we get iFans basically saying, "Look, shut up okay! Why can't we just like what we like, 'n stuff! Stop hating on Apple!" I'm just enjoying seeing the playing field level out with no unfair prejudices, and seeing Apple, who thought, and still thinks, it is the only company that deserves to make cell phones, start to fall from Super-human Tech Company, to eh, so-so tech company.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:06 11

17. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)

I couldn't resist replying to this one. I am trying to stay out of Android vs iOS comments. Poorest of Poor wants iPhone is a FACT, is not a FACT. I am buying Note 2 and Nexus 10. I have iPad 3 but I don't even touch it. My brother uses it. I can buy 4S for that price if not 5 (I didn't care to know what it costs). iPhone is available for FREE in US and subsidized in other countries. Some people genuinely love Android for what it can do.

I too respect the fact that people should be allowed to love what they like. But for many driod fanboys, its not about money. Its about consumers getting harmed/Marketing strategy/ Legal Issues/ Lack of innovation.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:32 7

29. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I do not - nor ever did - want the abomination that is the iphone.

Your argument is invalid.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:39

36. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

most people..

i never said all people!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:44

41. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)

even the poorest human being wants an iPhone (yes its a fact) , read again, FACT

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:48

45. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

yeah..but this is not really game over for apple coz a lot of people desires to have an iDevice!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:45 1

57. joey_sfb (Posts: 5841; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

I think all apple fans described treatment should be a taser twice in the morning and twice in the evening. That will wake up their idea that every one is in awe and worship their dumb apple devices. LOL!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:34 2

61. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)

When did I say game over. Why do you keep jumping from one argument to another. You said, you said "most people". I quoted you. And instead of accepting your mistake, you are explaining me its not game over?? Dude, some logic please. It will take atleast two years for the brainwash done by apple to washout. Only thing good about Apple product left is good integrated ecosystem. People don't know but google actually has a better ecosystem. Google Plus for instant upload, Google Drive for documents. GMail for mails and contacts. Google Calender for tasks. All combined gives more storage than iCloud, which people keep praising. Its a far more developed but, less integrated in Android. The moment Android gets it right, which isn't really hard to do imo, iOS has nothing over android other than smoothness.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:36 12

31. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4372; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

I'm on my fifth smartphone currently. Two of which were out of contract. After dealing with Apple previously, I can honestly say that I have no desire to own an iphone.

Basically saying that the only reason people don't like the iphone is that they can't afford it, sorry but that's one of the first things I heard from the apple fans. Everyone complains lately about how android fans rule the roost around here. When I started coming on PhoneArena, it was predominantly Apple fans. They were just as bad as the android fans are today, if not worse. Their big thing was that the only reason anyone didn't like apple was that they were jealous because they couldn't afford it. It was elitist BS at it's finest. But to say that EVERYONE wants an iphone, but only go with something else because they can't afford it, and follow it up saying it's a FACT? WOW.

You started out sounding like an intelligent guy, but then ended up showing everyone you're no better than the people you were venting at. Take your own advice from your first paragraph, and try to wrap your head around the fact that not everyone is in awe of the iphone. I know it's a crazy concept, but it actually is a fact.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:28

53. infinitemethod (Posts: 149; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)

Stop drinking the koolaid, isheeeepp.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 04:07

77. tonygoz (Posts: 11; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)

@dsDoan.. u are on point Sir, i thank u
@MC1123, based on ur definately selective ignorance of the latr part of ur post, id assume u are in the US, right?
if i may say so... i believe u guys o china alot of money...ALOTTTT, i mean for a poor country that is
where is the proof, if any...... THAT most people want an iPhone but can't afford it."..... PROOF, pls

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 10:45

94. mahmoodh (Posts: 17; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)

trust me, i never liked iphone since the beginning. i agree that it was revolutionary with its iOS bt the harware was dissapointing when compared to nokia alternatives.

iphone didnt have video recording, secondary camera and had only a 2mp camera( really?, nokia n70 had that when it came out in 2005), didnt have radio or gps and at tht PRICE!! tht was dissapointing and those were not specs i would sacrifice for the price they charged.

since then i never evn felt owning an iphone. i wont say iOS is bad bt it is not as powerful as android and now that android has removed the lag thr is absolutely no need to get an iphone!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 10:54

95. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

"even the poorest human being wants an iPhone (yes its a fact) that includes china!"

That's not necessarily true... have you seen the market shares? Europe sells each new devices at $600-$700, there's no such thing as subsidy... Did you think about why the iPhone market share is so much lower? Now, compared to USA, iPhone subsidy is available, iPhone is being sold at $200 with contract in top 3 major carriers... yet market share is still lower?
If like you said, poorest human being want iPhone, then they could of gotten one for very cheap in the US (well, they'll be paying the rest of that over the life of their contract, but getting any phone will require them to do so). Don't use the cheap Android phones as an argument... Take a look at the SGS3 in the United States, it's the number one selling phone of all times. You can't tell me that only rich people bought the SGS3.

It's either you're not seeing the whole picture, or your observation is really bad...

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 12:46

102. Dave_Granger (Posts: 9; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)

No such thing as subsidized phones in Europe? You might want to check your facts there.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:50 2

6. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

i wish apple will really make a major modification on iOS and on its product!!! a real homescreen and real widgets! that will be awesome!!!

i wish they wont be like their macs/macbook/macbook air! that only sells a few of them! but yeah, a good device...

coz i want apple to be relevant to make the competition healthy!!! and so is WP8 and even BB10!!!

if android is the only choice, i better stick on my old phones!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:02 7

15. Kal-el (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)

Apple has virtually same IOS for YEARSSS.........
major modifications?ONly way that will happen...wait for google or windows to innovate ....theyll take that idea....then patent it..................

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:11 1

18. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)

I know you're a big fan of Apple and all, can you put in your WISH LIST something which are not copy of android features. Ask Apple to innovate something not from other platforms.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:31 3

28. wendygarett (unregistered)

Just because he says something good, you accused him an ifans? Did you see his avatar?

I thought fandroids are smart... Sigh

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:37 1

33. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

wendy... i so get you! :)

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:59

67. joey_sfb (Posts: 5841; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Good like android phone is the only choice in the coming years. So any old phone you have in mind. You could keep using your iPhone till it leak battery juice.... See how cool is that! Every one will really be in awe with your iPhone then. Apple fans are really a bunch of losers. For me, i will use what is affordable and good. Be it webOS or android or god forsaken wp9. As long as its the best!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 07:34

88. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)

i thought people who like apple products are fake and deceiving anyways? what is your point? kind of like your avatar.

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