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Analyst: Apple iPhone 5, game over

0. phoneArena 16 Dec 2012, 23:34 posted on

Following Monday's downgrade of Apple shares by Citigroup, shares of the Cupertino based firm's suppliers have been falling on Monday as one analyst says that demand for the Apple iPhone 5 has peaked in the U.S. and was just "so-so" in China; shares of Foxconn parent Hon Hai Precision were the biggest loser as of Monday morning in Asia...

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posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:13 1

19. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


Now you want real homescreen and widgets in iOS. Well that becomes Android. No one can match the blank canvas Android is. YouTube mycolorscreen if you want to know what i mean. Also, a major overhaul would mean changing the dynamics of OS. I doubt Apple can risk that as it would create too much room for bugs. (Read Apple Maps). Apple is the virus in the competition. Good competition means benefit for consumers. Apples average price is too high. That ways they get lots of profit, so does there shareholders. So the one who wins are them, not consumer. Everyone wants profit, Samsung, Sony, HTC. But they have priced their products reasonably, unlike Apple. I don't want premium things to make my phone LOOK better, but I want them WORK better, and by work I don't mean smooth, I mean WORK. HTC's phone look awesome while working great (I hope they improve their after sale service).

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:36 1

32. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I disagree about the "blank canvas" thing. Technically, Symbian is innately more capable than Android (so far), but since it lacks major manufacturer support it is falling by the wayside.

The pricing thing is spot-on. Apple needs to lose its hubris and get with the real world

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:41 1

38. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


I don't know what are you talking about. I have used Symbian, infact, I respect it for giving the ideas for docks and widgets for the first time. But, I have been using Android for two years. I can make it look like anything. May be you will get what I am trying to say, if you would youtube for mycolorscreen, or theme like a boss, or 3D UI Tutorial by coldfustion. You should, it will be a treat for your eyes.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:50

65. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


well I was using Symbian too, and I can tell you that I could've change the theme, the fonts etc. while having quite some features android lacked at the time.
As for the launchers, I in fact used SPB shell for Symbian before it even became available for android.

Now though, there is no comparison and Android trumps Symbian in every way

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:52

47. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


oh symbian...

if nokia could just support the symbian foundation back in the day when android is still not popular, symbian might be the best platform choice right now..

coz the very reason why android is very flexible as symbian is before is because of the engineers of the symbian foundation..

the one that makes the android so lovable is because of symbian folks!

nokia really made a bad bad decisions back then!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 14:21

98. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Or you could just, y'know, BUY AN ANDROID that has all those features you're looking for and more. Sure, you won't be the envy of teenage girls and housewives, but is that really important?

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:53 6

7. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


So this world isn't full morons who keep buying the same iphone every year, its full of slow minded people who finally figure out apple is a rip off.
JK or was i? ;-)

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:54 7

8. Kal-el (Posts: 91; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)


ABOUT TIME people start wising up and realizing your paying for the name brand ...$900 for apple unlocked phones....nexus 4 ...299.... iphone 5 is dual core ...nexus 4 quad....

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:22

21. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


Its not about the number of processors. iOS is light and doesn't need that many cores. Android is highly functional and heavy, needs it. But Apple doesn't try to make their devices future proof. They want Apple fanboys to make the switch as soon as NFC comes into picture, and high res in future iterations. What I don't like about iPhone 5 is that they didn't introduce NFC and didn't make their screen wider to make it more thumb friendly (Yes, I like to type on my smartphone, A LOT). Furthermore, iOS 6 sucks. Not an upgrade. Not jailbreakable either. iPhone 5's battery is sad from what I have read, though GSMArena tends to disagree.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:44 3

43. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5776; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Apple didn't put in NFC because they wanted to push Passbook (or whatever it is called). This is an example of being a pig (aka wanting to have your cake and eat it too). There appears to be too much interest in NFC on the part of a number of significant industry participants. Apple is not going to be able to stand in the way of adoption of NFC. Passbook is not a viable alternative to NFC. The Sun does not rotate around the Earth.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 07:56

90. buccob (Posts: 1429; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


If you had an Android phone, (do you?) you could be typing with Swype... on almost any size of screen with ease... instead of complaining that the screen on the iphone is not wide enough...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:26 1

25. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


You forgot about the same screen used on both but
4in vs 4.7in
or the ram
1gb vs 2gb
or the glass
One side of glass vs two sides of glass
LOL JK the last one was a joke or was it?
;-)

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:54 1

9. apocalypsebc (Posts: 148; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


SMH... What does this mean for WP8?!

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:55 5

10. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Soon apple will fall......

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:35 1

56. phil2n (Posts: 466; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


The end is near...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:24 2

22. henrickrw (Posts: 407; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Apple is done for life!

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:25

24. potatosalad (Posts: 36; Member since: 07 May 2012)


but, if someone would give me a free iPhone, i would love to have it :)

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:38 4

34. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


So would I. Its been a while since I can toss a phone without caring about it.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:38

35. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


...sure, to sell to some fool...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 06:09 1

80. JunkCreek (Posts: 402; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


yes, me too. i'd really love to have it then to sell it again to get two hi/med end android devices to share with my wife.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:39 1

37. techloverNYC (Posts: 404; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


Iphone is not a phone its a lifestyle, a brand, an image, that why specs and prices dont matter. In the world of andriod specs matter too much that new and more powerful phones come out weeks after weeks. Your high end new phone will be mid level phone in half a yr. Andriod : No icon, No brand, No image, any1 can recall any andriod model from 2 years ago or 1 year ago from mind?

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:46 5

44. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


HTC Desre, Desire HD, Samsung SII, Note, Xperia, Xperia ARC, Xiaomi MI 1.

PS: You made yourself look like a fool who cares about what other people think and superficial things. Move on buddy. Serious advice.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:54 2

66. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Lifestyle my foot! How can it be a symbol of lifestyle when there's no "Life" to it's "Style" ... it's same old monotnous brick year after year for everyone who own it.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 03:03

68. amiaq (Posts: 452; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Poor lifestyle throw in some pretty bad decision.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 03:09 1

70. joey_sfb (Posts: 2921; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


What do you think of fashionloverNYC. You should serious consider this nick instead.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:42 2

40. Arthurhkt (Posts: 95; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


As a business student, i could say that actually eventually every business had their peak period and low period, there is no company that just be the forever dominant player in the market, let just say, Microsoft, Nokia and now Apple, there will be moment where they be on the peak and drop to the lowest and start climbing again, sorry to say this but i could say that in future Samsung may face this problem as well, but not so soon due to currently they are doing pretty well globally.

Lastly, let stop the fanboy war, everyone has their own choice to buy anything they want, let just respect their choice and with more choices it is good to us too, so every company have to compete each other by implementing their own way of innovation products for us. Without competitors usually company eventually will getting more lazy and lazy....

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:49

46. amiaq (Posts: 452; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Prime example is Apple

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 03:41

74. cncrim (Posts: 503; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Amen. You nails it.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:13 3

50. roscuthiii (Posts: 1801; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I abhor being wrong! I initially gave it 3-5 years after the passing of Steve Jobs before we saw the bubble deflate.

Something I'm wondering about.. 2 milion sales sounds very impressive, but how does that compare to sales of handsets from other manufacturers in the Chinese smartphone market? Given there are more than 1 billion mobile subscribers (and more than 250 million smartphone users) in China, that's what... less than 1/100th of the smartphone market when Apple's greatest sales numbers posted are always highest at release?

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:33 6

55. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Price paid for Patent Trolling ... they still have time and opportunity to throw in the towel as far as their Thermonuclear stupidity goes and get back to real work rather than stretching or squeezing screen sizes ...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:49 4

58. badini007 (Posts: 18; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


In our office 3 guys switched to android (SGS3) in this month only and I never thought that these guys will ever think of changing to a different OS.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:04

59. lyndon420 (Posts: 1739; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


I think every monkey and his dog predicted this was gonna happen soon.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:44 3

64. tiara6918 (Posts: 1416; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Apple, this is what happens when you keep on releasing the same thing again and again. People are no longer amazed by the innovation you once have had before

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 03:12

71. cncrim (Posts: 503; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


This is good for all of us bc now Apple force to change the same old ios and thier iphone ipad. The end it is good for comsumer like us.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 04:02 3

76. tedkord (Posts: 4766; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Apple are far from over, but they are losing their luster. The RDF has definitely decreased drastically without Steve Jobs.

My buddy at work, who has owned iPhones since the OG, skipped the 4s because he recognized it was just the same phone he already had (the iPhone 4), and waited for the iPhone 5.

Now that its out he went out and got a Galaxy Note 2, just last week. And he couldn't be happier. Bit of a learning curve for him, but I'm there to help as much as I can. He doesn't miss the iPhone at all, and loves watching movies on that huge screen.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 04:52 1

78. Michelle_lopez (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


Smelly Apple try this taste, I do not like to see the news every day in that other brand-name in difficulties, Samsung and Apple has been a good result, I use the phone, and different from the others because I do not want othersnot the same product only share her friends with iphone samsung I used MOTO RAZR MAXX HD, currently Apple fans and the the Samsung fans very proud, waiting for to be surpass

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 05:40 1

79. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1195; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


NASA, prepare for landing. Apple is coming home.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 06:56

82. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


Some one should fire that analyst, even if the ip5 doesn't do as well as it should, it's still far from game over

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 07:48

89. jibraihimi (Posts: 695; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


I don't believe what analysts predicts, because most of their predictions are always wrong, out of 100% only 1% of their pdredictions are right, and then they create so much media coverage on those 1% correct predictions that people forget their 99% failures............ In my opinion analysts are bunch of people who are smoking crack all the time, and making out charts when they are very high............... I'm not fan of Apple or love their products, but I'm just trying to be rational, because news of 2millions iPhone 5 selling in first weekend in china is sure to take the Apple's share higher, because it was bad news from china which brought the share down......... I think apple will start to go down after the launch of iPhone 5s, if they are unable to bring Any drastic changes to the UI of ios on idevices.................but if their is new UI then fanboys will again line up in droves to buy over expensive igadget..........

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 08:45 2

91. dex-4 (Posts: 22; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)


Apple is going to echo the housing market.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 10:40

93. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Don't worry, the i5s is coming in a couple of months. They'll add some little addition to the same ole product to lure the ipholks back. Its a strategy that's works for Apple.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 04:48

99. Droids-R-us (Posts: 12; Member since: 17 Sep 2012)


Hi Wendygarett, just thought I would say, not all fandroids are smart but all Androids are :) People like me who buy the top Android phones buy them because they are simply the the smartest as opposed the being the simply the simplest. (you know what phone I am hinting at) Most Android fans are very bright, you need to be smart to work out how to use them ;)

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 09:23

101. phonemirer (Posts: 111; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


why apple is so hated on ??
-biased people and biased internet
-overated and overprized products and people think they re the best because the re the most expensive
- low durability
- pretty much the same os since 2007
- apple suing every company

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