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Amazon may ship 3 million Fire phones this year

0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2014, 20:00 posted on

The new Amazon Fire phone will be available starting July 25, but customers can pre-order it as of this week (exclusively on AT&T)...

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posted on 20 Jun 2014, 20:05 8

1. NotAGeek (Posts: 117; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


All those phones shipped will eventually picking up dust in the storage

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 12:26

20. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 773; Member since: 29 May 2014)


I don't understand why amazon think someone would buy this EXPENSIVE phone over s5/z2/g3/one/one/find7

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 12:30 1

23. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 164; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Not only because it's locked to the Amazon ecosystem, and the phone itself isn't that great in terms of design, but also the fact that it's exclusive to AT&T. If it were also available on Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint, then I could easily see it selling 3 million units and more people sticking to it. Carrier exclusivity is a way of saying "we're not sure if this is going to take off, so we'll just design it for one carrier".

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 20:28 8

2. fzacek (Posts: 1231; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


I think this phone will be a flop, unless they lower it's price drastically...

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 21:29 1

5. bwhiting (Posts: 157; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)


I give it about a good 3 months of steady sales then after that all negative in sales

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 12:27 1

21. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 773; Member since: 29 May 2014)


they feel too confident.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 20:51

3. Canaan (Posts: 77; Member since: 25 May 2014)


I disagree about this device not being high end based on the reasons you pointed out. If it's the screen resolution then why is the IPhone 5s still considered high end when it's screen is even smaller and it's PPI isn't that much higher than the fire phone's. As for the chip processor, the snapdragon 800 came out 8-9 months ago (about as old as the A7 chip of the iPhone 5s); if that's a reason then I suppose the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and Nexus 5 are not high end either as they sport the same chip processor as the Fire phone?

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 21:13

4. Bjray (Posts: 21; Member since: 29 May 2014)


Well for the last reason (SoC) that's obviously because those phones you mention were released last year... Granted there is hardly a difference between the two, but it still stands that Amazon should have at least gone for the updated S800 (S801).

As for the iPhone's display, well, it's the only smartphone with iOS so it's "high-end" for what it is. It's stupid logic but true.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 21:40

6. Canaan (Posts: 77; Member since: 25 May 2014)


As you said, the 801 isn't a vast improvement over the 800. On many tech sites people referred the Nokia Lumia 930 as a high end device and that phone will also sport the snapdragon 800 chip when it's released in Europe this July.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 22:29

9. jellmoo (Posts: 625; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


I agree with your point. The Fire Phone may not quite match the specs of current Android flagships but it isn't off by much.

That being said, I still think that they priced this device incredibly poorly. Considering that it's more or less just a portal to buying Amazon content, they really should have gone for the discount up front since they'll be making the money on the back end.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 02:11

13. Canaan (Posts: 77; Member since: 25 May 2014)


And based on the new test done on the S5 LTE-A which has the 805 chip (it's one of the new articles here on phonearena )it seems that chip isn't much of an improvement either. It received a 37,000 benchmark score while the Note 3 which has the 800 chip had a score of 35,000. So I think it reinforces my complaint about not calling the Fire phone high end simply because it has the SD800 chip.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 22:42 1

10. promise7 (Posts: 295; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


"about as old as the A7 chip of the iPhone 5s"

They may have been released at similar times, but a major difference not mentioned is that the A7 is 64-bit chip so it's much more future proof than what the Kindle Fire Phone has.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 00:31 3

12. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 2661; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Oh cut that crap... I have seen the iphone lag with "desktop class 64bit" chipset.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 04:08 1

16. techspace (Posts: 524; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


the iphone 5s doesn't lag....the animations in ios 7 are designed in that way....but there is a setting to disable those animations if you don't like them.
i am not saying that kindle fire phone is not future proof, its a good phone but we still don't know how many months or years amazon will support it...that would depend on the sales.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 12:28

22. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 773; Member since: 29 May 2014)


because although apple were competing with android, it's not direct orange to orange or apple to apple. whereas in fire, it is directly competing with other android vendor. and what amazon got on fire is just a hype/gimmick.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 22:13 1

7. Bozzor (Posts: 99; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Shipped is of course not the same as sold. Amazon may surprise us, but my bet is that it will be a flop initially, then be subject to heavy discounting. Whilst Amazon has tried to do some great things with this phone, it just doesn't look like it's going to find that many buyers, though I bet some of its features will show up on competing handsets soon enough. But I have little doubt we are soon going to be talking about Fire in the same way as the Kin, Pre, First & ROKR...

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 22:16 3

8. PowTheBowl (Posts: 82; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Can't wait for a fire sale

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 00:26

11. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 2661; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


For those who saying its not full hd display and its pricey, please stop this is a unique innovative smartphone and not the run of the mill specd. phone.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 04:14

17. techspace (Posts: 524; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


i agree with you....if they want better specs, they have many options in the market.
but some of the features available in the amazon fire phone aren't available in any other phone in the market today, if it comes with the same specs and features like the other flagship android phones, then it would serve no purpose.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 02:11 1

14. 0xFFFF (Posts: 2018; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Amazon can go frak themselves with this terrible phone. I wouldn't buy it at any price. Every single thing about it is for Amazon's benefit.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/cringely/fire-phone-amazons-direct-line-your-data-dreams-and-desires-244626?page=0,0

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 02:54

15. Bondurant (Posts: 39; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)


Original Message
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06/20/14 01:53:00

Your Name: ******

Comments:Hello,

I, a potential customer from *******, would like to know if Amazon fire phone will be released outside the US.

Thanks.

Regards,
****

Message From Customer Service

Hello ****,

Fire phone is currently available in the U.S. only.

We'll consider your feedback as we plan further improvements. Customer feedback like yours is always important to us. I'll be sure to pass your message along to the appropriate department as we continue to improve the Kindle experience for our customers.

For the latest information about Fire, visit the product detail page:
*******

Thanks for your interest in Fire phone. We look forward to seeing you again soon.

Best regards,
Katie B.

_______

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posted on 21 Jun 2014, 10:31

18. meanestgenius (Posts: 667; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Amazon is currently in talks with European carriers to see which one will be carrying their smartphone.

http://seekingalpha.com/news/1805493-amazon-in-talks-with-european-carriers-over-smartphone?uprof=45

It will start out as a U.S. exclusive handset, but will launch internationally in the near future.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 10:35

19. meanestgenius (Posts: 667; Member since: 28 May 2014)


I think the this phone has a chance to sell 2-3 MILLION this year. Amazon has GREAT marketing, a large ecosystem and TONS of cash to put behind this handset. I think this is a good handset with unique features which can be used as selling points.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 13:40 1

24. Troysyx (Posts: 134; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)


So, how many of these do you think are actually going to be SOLD, and the returned when the user realuzes what an awful phone it is?

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 13:51

25. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 773; Member since: 29 May 2014)


just as much as current bb z10 number or microsoft kin number.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 14:56

26. meanestgenius (Posts: 667; Member since: 28 May 2014)


NOW you're trolling articles on AMAZON?! Trolls like you never rest, do they.

posted on 21 Jun 2014, 15:01

27. meanestgenius (Posts: 667; Member since: 28 May 2014)


I don't think any will be returned, nor do I think the phone will be "awful". How can anyone say how bad this phone is going to be if absolutely no one has used it yet? Doesn't make sense.

This phone has unique features that can be used as selling points, and has a great ecosystem to go along with it. It's also made by a company that has GREAT marketing and lots of cash to back it. Early buyers of this phone will most likely be those already entrenched in Amazon's ecosystem, like me. The only drawbacks to this handset are the AT&T exclusivity in the U.S. and the price.

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