Alleged next iPhone component shot reveals Apple A5 chip
0. phoneArena 19 Sep 2011, 03:11 posted on
We've been sent a link to a snapshot posted on Weibo, the Chinese take on Twitter, that shows an A5 marking on a chipset that allegedly belongs either to the next iPhone, or the rumored affordable iPhone 4S version...
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1. Leyjee (Posts: 47; Member since: 25 Feb 2011)
Honestly, who cares ? I have nothing against apple but what difference does it make knowing thats the components for it ?
2. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I agree. People are acting as if iPhone 5 will have some sort of revolutionary hardware. It won't. it will have a relatively outdated hardware by the time it launches.
Oh, did I mention the latest rumor saying that the only device to launch this year is the iPhone 4S - which will be the same as the iPhone 4 - 512MB of ram, 3.5" screen and all - but will only have the A5 chip and an 8MP camera? According to this rumor - the iPhone 5 will launch only in 2012.
Oh and to be clear - A5 = 1Ghz dual core chip. Something that has existed ever since the beginning of this year.
10. tech-head (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Sep 2011)
If true, Apple will definitely loose market share.
17. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
No the sheep will convince themselves that Apple 'wants to get it right' and will praise them for the delay in release.
14. joaolx (Posts: 326; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
But still, from tests made it's faster than Tegra 2 CPU.
20. Huhster (unregistered)
Tegra 2 is nearly two years old why would it surprise you that an A5 would be faster ?
3. Leyjee (Posts: 47; Member since: 25 Feb 2011)
yes, Apple markets their products to people who have no idea about phones. i guess that is smart because thats were the money is ! But it just pisses me off with them suing everyone when to be honest they arnt really inovating, 1ghz dual core, 8mp, retina display are all basically outdated now..
4. ahmadickhard (unregistered)
That battery look like the one found in iMobile android tablet. Can Apple sue iMobile then?? (eventhough iMobile is selling it NOW...) haha
7. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I have an honest question about iOS and dual core. Other than games what will the dual core do for the basically single threaded operating system? I guess if they start getting some widgets they can offload the load to that but compared to android which is basically a full linux desktop (hence the bad battery life) I don't see the point in a dual core chipset.
8. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
for the regular OS? absolutely nothing on iOS. Its only use will be to shut down 1 core during non gaming, and save battery power compared to a single core. I think its more "keeping up with android" than it is actual need of a dual core.
9. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yeah this whole concept of minimalist software design by Apple is like some fracking monk who doesn't really do anything all day - and thus doesn't need much food - vs a hard working businessman who needs a lot of energy. Guess which one contributes more to the society. With all due respect.
16. ex2bot (unregistered)
If you're talking about phone productivity, both Android and iOS have sizable software libraries. The whole idea of minimal design is to take out what's not needed. It's not about being some hippy monk. (If software is short on necessary features, that's not minimalist, that's just crummy.)
Business people can still enjoy their minimalist software without becoming a drain on civilization.
12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5159; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Oh come on now remixfa, iOS may not float your boat as an OS, but don't fall into H8er mode. iOS v. 5 is going to raise the bar for Android. One area that is looking to be interesting is the iMessage function - basically BlackBerry Messaging for iOS with some enhancements. I suspect that iOS v. 5 will have some OS level enhancements as well.
I don't hate on an OS (even WP7). If sales don't materialize, then I call it for what it is (sales fail), but I don't hate on the OS in-and-of-itself.
11. tech-head (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Sep 2011)
Never thought of it that way. iOS5 doesn't really need a dual core processor. Its a bare bones OS as it is. Guess its for games....
19. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Remember Gateway Computers, they were non upgradable. Wanted a newer Video card, sound card etc...you were crap out of luck. Apple is the same way while now they may not need a dual core what about the future, oh yeah just buy another device, Android makes room for the future by taken into consideration most people will keep their phones longer than a year, not me, but most people.
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So you can upgrade chips on android? No you can't you have to get a new phone. The iPhone 3GS which came out in 2009 is getting iOS 5. How many android phones get that kind of continued support? Some never get a sw upgrade at all.
26. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Taco - almost all of them. By using custom roms. something the iPhone will never be capable of doing.
15. ex2bot (unregistered)
A dual-core chip's advantage in a phone is similar to multi-core chips in laptops and desktops, namely improving multitasking / multithreading. If your phone is checking email and downloading while you're web surfing, you will enjoy smoother, faster operation.
Contrary to what some believe, iOS will multitask. Apple's apps all multitask, and third party apps can multitask in certain situations, such as downloading, GPS, IM, Skype, etc.
Dual-core is better than single core when comparing like cores.
24. tech010101x (unregistered)
Grand Central Dispatch as well as NSOperation are both available for iOS. These are the primary idioms given to developers for multiprocessing in Cocoa for both iOS and Mac OS X. There are many tutorials about this for programmers, but the gist is that the technology is intended to help programmers write parallel processing applications, including where one does not know how many processors to leverage beforehand. The operating system can help make that determination at runtime. Which means that current iOS applications can be written to take advantage of multi-processing if/when such hardware ships.
Of course, in both Android and iOS, it is possible to write multithreaded applications at a lower level, but these APIs are intended to make it a matter of course that iOS applications can leverage multi-processing when available.
BTW, it is a mistake to think that just because the user interface is presenting primarily one task at a time that the operating system is single threaded. Apple made a design choice for size of screen, processing power, and battery consumption to limit 3rd party applications. Apple's applications are of course not restricted, but they have their own controls and metrics.
13. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5159; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
My guess is that the photo is part of the internals for the iPhone 5. The 4+/S/whatever will have the internals from the current iPhone 4 with probably less storage (8Gb) and maybe a lower capacity battery to help in the cost-cutting area. You may also see a plastic screen with the glass screen going to the iPhone 5.
18. greytux (unregistered)
After changing the contrast it is quite obvious that the "5" was photoshopped in...
22. Wing (unregistered)
the guy said he did not own the picture, it was downloaded fromhttp://www.pandaxtech.com/news
23. Sebbelcher (unregistered)
If this is the iPhone 5 then there are some other notable things we can see:
1. It is White.
2. The blue surface on the left of the picture I would assume is the back of the display and it appears to be almost edge to edge.
27. moneymakerjnr (unregistered)
U think Steve Jobs is that foolish to launch an iPhone 4S - 512MB of ram, 3.5" screen and all - but will only have the A5 chip and an 8MP camera on Oct 4th as rumors say? He raised the company wen everyone thought it was dead and now he's just gonna let it go into thin air? He knows what is best for the company.
28. Beerski (unregistered)
These arguments against apple have always been the same over the years, not just for the iphone but for its computers too:
"this imac has outdated hardware" " your paying twice as much for something slower, with hardware a generation behind" blah blah. Really, why does everyone just look at processor speed and ram and absolutely nothing else? it's a PHONE people, not a super computer. who cares if it's not the fastest PHONE on the market? all the other companies just copycat apple's designs anyway, they always have. do you think smartphones were this popular before the first iphone came out? the answer is NO. just because it's the most popular device doesn't make it automatically evil.
29. jdawg (unregistered)
Honest who gives a steaming pile of sh*t what's in the next iPhone? I don't....
30. Skybox (unregistered)
I've had all previous iPhone models and currently the iPhone 4. However. The new Samsung Galaxy S2 is Sooooooo calling my name on Oct 2. It has more eveything than my current iPhone.