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All we know about the LG Nexus 4

0. phoneArena 27 Oct 2012, 14:29 posted on

The closer we're getting to October 29 and Google's Android event, the more convinced we become that we aren't to see multiple Nexus handsets this year. With the confirmation that the Sony Nexus was a lie, the LG Nexus 4 remains the only likely new addition to the handset line-up...

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posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:30 16

1. KazEmpire (Posts: 39; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)


a 32GB version Would be nice

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:49 4

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5282; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Along with a 32 Mb version, there should be a 'Best' edition (as in Good, Better, Best) with a top of the line camera and phone calling experience. Google seems to be targeting the value-conscious segment. There is certainly room for an upscale offering.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:58 4

9. predator93 (Posts: 120; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Also there can be one version with OLED display it would provide a better choice to the customers.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 11:04 4

13. Kjayhawk (Posts: 273; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)


Hey we are all a bit disappointed about this 16GB model... But after using some common sense, i found out Google's original Gnex sold on the play store has only 16 GB and only HSPA+. Chances are a carrier version will be released like last year including one on verizon and AT&T with LTE and 32 GB... That's really what I believe personally.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 19:59 2

19. Hemlocke (unregistered)


People that buy those because they MUST have LTE should shut their traps when they fall far behind in the update department. There shouldn't be a carrier-branded Nexus, because I believe they cast a shadow on the Nexus name.

I will be happy to sell my SGS3 and buy this device, even after the disguise shell is pulled off of it, so long as it has 16GB and HSPA+ with the Optimus G hardware.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 11:59 2

14. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1059; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


if this baby is $399 unlocked I am going to go to that event and get me one from the stage itself :)

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:31 4

2. ChafedBanana (Posts: 352; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


It looks like the battery is of the non removable type. :-(

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:33

3. PowTheBowl (Posts: 66; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


hope it really is $399!

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:34 1

4. someones4 (Posts: 613; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


looks good on paper. lets see if audio and camera is up to par. I like it but somehow i can't help but feel that it lacks something. what about rumours of other nexus devices?

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:35 4

5. buggerrer (Posts: 282; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


no amoled .. so the softkeys will suck on an LCD !! no true blacks :(

and why they didn't make a curved display?

posted on 27 Oct 2012, 15:38 2

25. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4600; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"no amoled .. so the softkeys will suck on an LCD !!"

Actually you are wrong because soft keys will "Burn-In" on OLED based display. So if it is soft keys then better they are on LCD than on OLED based display.

I'm happy that it has LCD based display instead of OLED based display. But I'm not happy because of soft keys in my opinion capacitive buttons would be better. No soft keys means more free space on the screen.

posted on 27 Oct 2012, 18:03 2

27. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you forget one basic about the soft keys.. they disappear when your in an app like a movie or whatnot. They are not static.

Yea there is "burn in" on Amoled just like on LCD. Dont fool yourself into thinking there wont be. Turn down the brightness and the likiness dissapears.

posted on 27 Oct 2012, 18:50 2

28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4600; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"you forget one basic about the soft keys.. they disappear when your in an app like a movie or whatnot. They are not static."

No, I not forgot about that but in some circumstances still better to have capacitive buttons. Until there's edge to edge screens, I don't see the point in not using the bezel for the capacitive buttons.

"Yea there is "burn in" on Amoled just like on LCD. Dont fool yourself into thinking there wont be."

Ok, just Google and look how much you will find smartphones with OLED based displays and Burn-In effect and how much smartphones with LCD based displays and Burn-In effect???

Yes, LCD can get Burn-In effect just because liquid crystals through long time affected by the same voltage (without movement) can get static load and stay in the same position for some time but the difference between OLED and LCD Burn-In is that LCD's Burn-In effect is NOT PERMANENT while OLED's Burn-In effect IS PERMANENT.
Also OLED based displays can get Burn-In effect much faster than LCD and I even don't talk that chance that LCD will get "Burn-In" effect is very very very small and namely on the phone!

"Turn down the brightness and the likiness dissapears."

Then what the purpose to have ability to use high brightness if you can't use it because you are afraid of "Burn-In" effect???

It is the same as I would say don't take your phone in to hands and the likiness that you will drop it dissapears...

Or don't take your phone anywhere and likiness that it will be stolen also dissapears...

posted on 28 Oct 2012, 03:52 2

30. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Im using an Amoled screen.. its not Oled. Its Amoled..

It took me past the 2 year mark to get any burn in on the screen, which is only noticable when the phone is off. Where is it? the tiny clock in the upper right hand corner.
Big whoop. You cant tell its there at all when the phone is on.

posted on 28 Oct 2012, 11:48

31. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4600; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Im using an Amoled screen.. its not Oled. Its Amoled.."

And AMOLED is based on OLED!

A = active
M = matrix
O = organic
L = light
E = emitting
D = diode

"It took me past the 2 year mark to get any burn in on the screen..."

It depends on various conditions it may happen even after few month. I remember long time ago I was Googling and found two big forums with vote polls in both forums voted really big number of Samsung Wave (S8500) users and in both polls ~30-40% users was claiming that after 3-4 month they have noticed 'Burn-in' effect. ~30-40% in 3-4 month it is really big numbers in such short time.
And today we can find more and more Google results about 'Burn-in' effect.

And even if it hapens after 2 years, why would I want such display??? Should it be somehow useful for me??? I don't think so!

In my opinion there is four main OLED based screen cons:
1) Really short lifespan (due to organic compounds degradation).
2) Can not handle intensive "working load" and it expressed as 'Burn-In' effect (also due to organic compounds degradation).
3) Colors are not natural.
4) Relatively not so clear and sharp images.

The problem is that because noone still has improve organic compounds which are used in OLED. They have improve matrixes and used other "tricks" but hasn't improve main element - organic compounds and that's why OLED has such short lifespan and can get 'Burn-In' effect.

"...burn in on the screen, which is only noticable when the phone is off. Where is it? the tiny clock in the upper right hand corner.
Big whoop. You cant tell its there at all when the phone is on."

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in FullHD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkfT3PXtIU8

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtZ2E7Sgbg

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbTuMamqSA

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYZ1XTsM1I

Smartphone display Burn-in test (LCD vs OLED):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIqqnnb1LBw

You also can find even more and more examples of OLED based screens 'Burn-In' effect just Google or search on YouTube and you will see that it is pretty easy noticeable!

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:41 4

6. toiletcleaner (Posts: 176; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)


I think it is a nice phone. but whit the Note 2 around and the HTC butterfly. Google need more then just one Nexus. more ways to get more people to use their apps and web browser. I would like to see this phone whit no lest then 16GB to compete whit the rest

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 08:55 4

8. PowTheBowl (Posts: 66; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


I think the Nexus phones aren't meant to compete with the Note 2, HTC Butterfly, SGS3, etc. Nexus phones would compete with each other for the best Nexus!

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 09:57 1

12. toiletcleaner (Posts: 176; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)


all the phones are in the market to compete. all kind of sizes. Goggle has only one OS. Android. but there is a lot of manufactures. HTC, SONY.MOTO.. etc..for any kind of costumer. Nexus is just one more phone in the market. ( in the good way )

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 09:08 4

10. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 306; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


Not true at all... People who buy Nexus like me buy it for the stock experience... All I care about is enough storage but besides that it is good enough for me to be buying it over ANY other Android phone no matter how much better the specs are on them... It's about the stock experience and I am sure most if not all of the other Nexus purchasers have a similar mindset.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 09:17 1

11. structureman116 (Posts: 134; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)


This may have already been pointed out, but the front of this phone looks eerily similar to my SS GNex. The only noticeable difference I can see is the location of the ear piece being all the way at the top of the phone.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 20:01 1

20. Hemlocke (unregistered)


I think this is a disguise. They made this shell look so much like the GNex that I cannot imagine that it is anything but a sham to keep everyone guessing.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 12:24 2

15. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


mm...i can't get past the fact that its a Nexus from LG. not much into LG android phones in general. i'll pass on this one. does look like a copy of the Samsung Nexus though.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 14:52 2

16. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Don't count it out just because it's LG. Remember, Google is working with LG on this; like holding their hand like a child, and keeping them from making mistakes. As long as this gets the Google approved stamp, it will be a very solid device. Also, if that doesn't do it for you, there might also be a 5 inch HTC Nexus releasing; don't be discouraged by the screen size (if you don't like phablets), because it'll be about the same size as the One X or Galaxy S3 because of bezel management.

It looks like a copy of the Galaxy Nexus because it's a Nexus. Google is trying to regulate the Nexus line and keep it clean and recognizable. It looks virtually the same on the front, but has differentiated itself with the flat crystal reflection glass back.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 16:21 2

17. 12013E12T (Posts: 37; Member since: 08 Sep 2009)


I can't seem to decide between this phone or the LG Optimus G. I'm with Sprint, so my Optimus G will come with 32GB of internal storage and a 13MP camera (which I'm not such a huge fan of cameras/pictures, but I am a storage whore). And seeing as how this Nexus 4 will only come with 8GB internal storage, potentially 16GB, I'm not sure if I should stick with the Optimus G to fulfill my storage needs OR if the experience of a stock version of Android will make up for it?

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 21:59 3

21. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Question; how much storage do you actually use on your phone?

If it's less than 8 GB; get the Nexus
More than 8 but less than 16; probably the Nexus still.
More than 16 but less than 32; wait for confirmation that there will not be a 32 GB model for the Nexus, and get the Optimus G if you really can't live without 32 GB.

Honestly, stock Android is a WAY better option than LG's custom UI. Also, LG isn't exactly well known for their updates. However, if you absolutely need that 32 GB, then get the Optimus G. Maybe you can get a stock 4.2 rom when it comes out, if you're into rooting/modding your phone.

posted on 22 Oct 2012, 18:08

18. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)


Arrrgh i really wanted amoled and contour display, Why LG, WHY?!?!?!?
You Guys think i should get the Galaxy Nexus when the price drop for the nexus 4 comes? I really want contour and amoled is almost a must have for me.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 05:56 1

22. Nikolas.Oliver (Posts: 1340; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


hate the design, my gnex design is better than this ! (im talking about the design not the material, i know you guys will say gnex is made of cheap plastic)

posted on 27 Oct 2012, 16:19

26. jan25 (Posts: 370; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


the Galaxy Nexus is probably the best looking phone ever. the Nexus 4 might not have the looks, but the spec sheet alone speaks for itself.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 09:22

23. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 487; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


I hope that the white model is white on both sides of the device like the iPhone. I would bet however, that the front bezel is still black.

posted on 27 Oct 2012, 14:30

24. Iphone4 (unregistered)


LG not for me
HTC would have been woooooo

posted on 28 Oct 2012, 03:14

29. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Never liked LG products Nexus name will make no difference. will either keep my GNex or move to ATT for i5.

posted on 28 Oct 2012, 16:21

32. TMach (Posts: 331; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


I would love to buy this having owned all the Nexus phones released to date....the 8/16gb means this is a no go for me, that is assuming there truly will be a 16gb variant as I seem to recall Samsung spouting the same line last year about a 32gb international version which never materialised! Sadly, will pass on this one, as good as it looks and may opt for the LG Optimus G.........or something else on the horizon as not really a big LG fan.

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