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All hail the eight cores! Samsung announces Exynos 5 Octa mobile processor

0. phoneArena 09 Jan 2013, 11:44 posted on

The latest member of the 5-series has been done with frugality/performance ratio in mind, as the chief of Samsung Electronics Stephen Woo admitted that the task to up performance while decreasing power consumption has been the one bothering him, and keeping him awake at night...

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posted on 09 Jan 2013, 16:30 1

97. belovedson (Posts: 1045; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

How did you acquire this info

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 16:31 5

98. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


or Ill be forced to..

agree with you. lol. :)

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 16:32 2

100. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

this magic genie called "google search" and years of research for my own benefit.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 16:44 6

103. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)

What the heck just happened...I was on this site looking for some CES news from Earth mind you and then I read this! I mean high end consumer laptops dont have ota cores...the come with OC'd quads and this is octa! OCTA in a phone or tablet!

I just dont know how to react...I am excited and happy its here and YES I will be getting one of these bad boys....but do we even need these? Are there applications or OSs that even have appas that require such power?

Lets just say I was looking forward to Exynos 5 quads and S4 Primes but Sammy has changed the game on its head and blown the competition out of the water!

I;ll leave my comments at this for now but if this is any indication of 2013 then its gonna be a helluva year folks!

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 17:04

104. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

that is an unusual occurrence isn't it? xD

well done, well done.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 17:32 1

107. deuel18 (Posts: 41; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)

for laptops it doesnt...but for tablets and smart phons yeah..their cores evolved too...not just the numbers of them

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 19:22

110. MeoCao (unregistered)

Agreed, but 72 sounds very impressive and is excellent marketing weapon.

We have to wait and see how the real things look like.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 19:29

111. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

And you don't seem to understand no have knowledge that Exynos chips are 25% better than standard commercial CPU that are used typically bye all vendors.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 21:56

115. barondebxl (Posts: 132; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)

We'll see how it stacks up against the snapdragon 800.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 22:08

118. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)

Indeed, 1st was the NVIDIA Tegra 4 announcement then followed with Qualcomm's new Snapdragons ( I'm solely interested in the new 800) then this Exynos 5 octa, now that's techgasm to the highest level.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 22:53

121. Hemlocke (unregistered)

Done what, exactly? Become the first to manufacture an ARM design? If so, then okay. Samsung is a minor tweaker, and they don't do anything special in the SoC realm. The Mali GPU is actually a stock ARM design (and name), and the Exynos is a mildly tweaked ARM design. Only Qualcomm, Nvidia, Applied Micro, Marvell, DEC, Xscale, and Apple (Yes, Apple) have actual ARM architecture licenses, which means those companies can design different cores using the ARM instruction set. Samsung is nothing special in the SoC realm. They just fab some great custom SoCs (Apple A-series) and compete with some others (Tegra and Snapdragon/Krait).

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 23:02 1

122. Hemlocke (unregistered)

The T658 ARM GPU has the potential for 272 GFLOPS, but that is theoretical. That would still leave the reference ARM design GPU a solid second for 2013, since the Series 6 from Imagination Technologies STARTS at 100 GFLOPS, with a theoretical ceiling of 1 TFLOPS.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 23:37 1

126. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

In total volume Samsung is pretty much the only Android OEM. Not a reasonable comparison.

APQ8064 might equal Exynos 5250. Snapdragon 800 will do battle with Exynos 5 Octa. I don't think normal people will know how that ends until the dust settles and reviews are out.

It's not just about Qualcomm SoC. Qualcomm radios run the show. Every iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 CDMA, and iPhone 5 has a Qualcomm baseband at its heart. Samsung may manufacture the Ax series but they have no hand in designing the chips anymore, stop spreading this persistent misconception because I've seen you say it time and time again.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 23:38

127. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

This makes no sense. Samsung uses the reference ARM core design. Any performance gains will have to be through higher clocks or better design outside of the CPU (memory bus, GPU, other various chips, etc...)

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 23:39

128. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

No one has said what version of the Mali 6xx will be in this Exynos, so any precise model will be pure speculation and rumor.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 23:54

135. Mittal (Posts: 494; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

Presuming HTC goes in for the Tegra cores, it will be the same old story again. In spite of a power saving core, the Samsung flagship will do better in terms of battery as HTC compromises battery size in favour of design but not samsung
But then those designs by HTC are really good!!

posted on 10 Jan 2013, 06:33

137. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

go look up what Apples are made out of. Samsung makes a lot more than just "manufacturing the CPU" in an iphone. Most of the internals of an iphone carry a samsung logo.

When it comes to radios, yes Q is winning that game. However they are not the only game in town. With samsung finally cracking their LTE/HSPA+ issues with exynos, their need to switch out to Q based radios is drastically decreased. This next generation of phones coming out in 2013 with the new designs will have a big affect one way or the other on who is winning the baseband wars.

However, that has nothing to do with the total SoC which is what we are talking about. On that front, Samsung is the clear winner... and growing.

posted on 10 Jan 2013, 06:43

141. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

good better best.. woop woop :)

posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:00

143. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)

You will see the Mali T658 or T604 Gpu used in the Exynos 5 without fail. It has already been talked about and outed on Samsung tomorrow and Samsung USA Twitter page. People can say what they want the upcoming Galaxy S4 and Galaxy Note 3 will be the best products on the market period. Samsung ruled that category in 2012 and it won't be unseated in 2013.

posted on 10 Jan 2013, 16:42

145. deuel18 (Posts: 41; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)

what kind of processor did Samsung used for this 8 cored processor? did they used A15 like the ones in Tegra 4?

posted on 10 Jan 2013, 18:51 1

146. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

If Samsung REALLY wanted to get ahead of the competition, they would include the Mali-T678 with this Exynos 5 Octa, which is supposed to increase performance by as much as 50% over the 1st gen Mali-T658.

posted on 11 Jan 2013, 19:21

147. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

Go look at what Apple's SoC design is. Not designed by Samsung. I don't care about anything else, because I'm not dumb enough to try and fight a straw man. Samsung only makes the SoC for Apple, they don't design it.

Samsung's Exynos is only in significant numbers on the Galaxy series.

posted on 11 Jan 2013, 19:22

148. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

T604 is hilariously slow if they go with that. That's why the model number matters.

posted on 11 Jan 2013, 22:01

155. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

Except HTC is known to not go for Tegra this year for phones.

Everyone sees the writing on the wall, Tegra is going to remain a tablet chip.

posted on 16 Jan 2013, 14:34

156. phonemirer (Posts: 111; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)

many people have enough with galaxy ace, those new processors are gonna remove android lag and let you open more apps

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 11:46 9

2. Commentator (Posts: 3713; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


posted on 09 Jan 2013, 11:47 12

3. Tele7 (Posts: 47; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)

I could host a pocket server with this hardware...

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 11:50 9

4. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

I just drooled on my tablet.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 11:53 5

5. imkyle (Posts: 1079; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)

The competition officially died with this announcement.

posted on 09 Jan 2013, 11:58 11

6. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

no. They just went back to the drawing board.

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