Al Gore of global warming fame says "new iPhones" are in store for next month
1. linguistisch (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 04:32 2 7
A) Al Gore didn't invent global warming he just put a spotlight on it. It does exist, you'd have to be in denial to ignore the copious scientific evidence by now.
B) iPhone 5, 4 and 4S or Cloudphone, it doesn't matter. Whatever Apple finally unveils if it doesn't have an LTE radio it will be a Bugatti without any tires.
2. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 04:47 4 3
A). I don't believe in global warming. It doesn't exist. Sure there might be some things humans are doing that is not good for the enivornment, but caliming there is global warming is going too far.
Here in sweden, the last 2 winters have been some of the coldest winters we have had for a long time (-20/25 degrees celcius = about -13 farenheit in Stockholm in November last year, so no global warming here.)
B) bugatti ?
the iphone won't be a bugatti at all, even with LTE.
4. Mike (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 05:10 3 2
A) "Climate change" tends to be the preferred term as not everywhere is actually warming. There really is no debate that it exist (except amongst the uneducated masses). The debate is the cause (humans or natural earth cycle).
B) Yeah...not Bugatti, maybe an Audi.
5. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 05:36 0 0
B) maybe the iphone should be compared to a Lada ?
9. taco5O. (banned) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 07:11 2 2
No, the iphone is even worse than a piece of scrap metal. I'm never buying another iphone again.
58. bolaG posted on 22 Sep 2011, 16:41 0 0
My dad had one of those haha. They're a tank though; so thats kinda of a complement to a iphone.
Compare them to a Kia :p
10. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 07:14 2 2
climate change is ALWAYS happening, that is a misnomer. The idea that humans are the driving factor in it is the dispute, and all the REAL evidence says NO. The driving force is the sun first and foremost. All the carbon emissions that people are worried about are actually by products given at the end of the warming cycle, not something that creates it.
The IPCC has been proven to fake evidence and lie over and over again, and that is where 95% of Al Gore's "irrefutable" evidence comes from.
Al gore also has private jets, a 11k mansion that uses more electricity than the town its closest to, and has made nearly a billion dollars on climate change "carbon trading" through his company that he just happens to mention through his presentations.
11. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 07:14 3 2
Man made global warming is a sham. It is a pyramid scheme. If it was real, you wouldnt see politicians grandstanding and giving ideas like cap n tax, trying to make international governments, or ending everything with a new tax they can siphon from... they would come out with real ideas from the scientific community, which is not whats happening.
What you have is a bunch of big government beaurocrats trying to guilt the worlds population into creating a "world" government and guilting them into paying more taxes.
Do we need to watch our pollution, deforestation, and a dozen other things? Absolutely. Is man made global warming the main cause of global warming? absolutely not.
16. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 09:48 1 1
remixfa, at least you know that these so called envirnoment issues, are just fake : )
Just wish you could realize the same regarding a certain theory...
but i'm not going to start discussing this again, as proto said it is of topic.
49. waveydavey (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:58 0 0
Someone's been visiting Zeitgeist.com a little too often. ;) That you would be bold enough to claim to have the answer to the question you are posing here is a little...disconcerting. Your question, though, is a valid one, and one that likely, given the limited scope of human knowledge/experience, will not be definitively answered any time soon.
17. darth8ball posted on 22 Sep 2011, 09:51 0 0
Dude get some education, due the the odd rotation of the earth on it's axis, a 'wobble' effect acts on the rotation around the sun and creates a temorary eliptical orbit, this creates on a 20,000 year , 40,000 yr and 100,000 year climate changes. These natural repetively occuring changes cause ice ages and even turn the Sahara desert into a tropical wetland.
Global warming as religion and God are ways humans have chosen to deal with what was unknown and felt a need to have an explanation for. Science is the cure to those diseases.
19. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:03 0 1
I know that these so called envirnoment issues are fake and myths. Man has not made them, it is just whats is happening naturally on earth.
When it comes to God, well it is a fact that the evolutionist theory is just as much fake as the global warming theory.
22. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:19 0 1
People don't seem to know the concept of ''Creation'' really means. If there was creation obviously there was a ''Creator'', nothing comes out of the blue. ''Law of cause and effect'', '' Action-Reation''. Like it or not there is a creator.
''The beginning of wisdom is the admission of one's ignorance.''
24. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:25 1 2
"Like it or not there is a creator."
Perfect statement !
27. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:49 0 2
Isn't the fact that you like technology against your religious views? After all, science is considered exactly the opposite of religion. And how do you explain the use of fossil fuels. You can't deny that they are main source of CFC's which are consequential in global warming. You people need to read up more.
28. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:58 3 1
the major causes of global warming are the sun's hot and cold periods, the earth's distance from the sun, technotic activity in the earth, water vapor, and to a minor extent methane gas. Carbon isnt really even in the picture.
so unless you can convince everyone to give up hamburgers and quit farting, there isnt much we can do about methane.. the rest of it is kind of out of our hands.
Global warming is a religion by self deprivating and generally left leaning individuals that think humanity is the worst thing ever created.
be good to your planet. dont polute, clean up pollution that already is there, dont kill the rainforests, ect.
30. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:11 2 1
I see you haven't done a lot of geology. The earth is protected by a layer of atmosphere that keeps out harmful Ultraviolet rays. If these rays reach the earth's surface, they can cause skin cancer, melt ice at a tremendous rate and also exterminate plankton.
The fact that they can cause skin diseases means that every land animal will slowly die unless evolution skips a step which is highly unlikely with the human species.
They melt ice faster because their particles generate more heat. This will cause the sea level to rise, flooding coastal areas and leading the massive population to the center where they will anyways get skin diseases and die.
The fact that they kill plankton will destabilize the entire aqua ecosystem and thus rendering the earth having no life.
And all these problems are caused by using automobiles and air-coolers which release these particular CFCs into the atmosphere. If you think carbon isn't a determining factor in the equation of our planet's survival, you're sorely mistaken.
The cause of global warming isn't the suns hot and cold periods or the earths distance. These are minor factors which wouldn't be a problem if we didn't use fossil fuels at such a tremendous rate. Our planet is also running out of oil due to our enormous intake leaving most of the areas infertile and with no hope of life breeding.
We also mine the earths surface eroding the important top-soil to get to our minerals. This also makes the soil infertile. This means that no flora could possibly survive. With the flora and fauna dead, would you suggest some way for the earth to be habitable to anything?
39. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 12:19 0 0
geology and atmosphere are 2 different subjects.
the biggest thing that keeps out/in heat? Water Vapor!
when water becomes ice, it expands as it crystalizes. ever put a Coke in the freezer too long? The bulk of ice is underwater, so when it melts the net change isnt going to "sweep california away" or crap like that.
There has been many periods of time where there was less ice than there was now. Again, if u could read up on the subject you claim to have knowledge of, as the ice is melting it is exposing human settlements 10s of thousands of years old that used to be there before the ice and the start of the ice age in the 1300s.
50. waveydavey (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 14:04 0 0
Any true social change required radicals on both sides. Want people to be nicer to their planet? You gotta have some extremist hippie granola types who won't shut the f*ck up about it. In 20 years, it'll all even out in the wash. You claims of absolute knowledge are flabbergasting. Scientists don't know, definitively, why the earth is (on average) heating up. And anyone who says otherwise is one of those aforementioned extremists. Fortunately, we need you to moderate the extremists on the other side, and in the end, the path of moderation will make the opposites irrelevant.
29. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:03 1 2
Science is not the opposite to religion. Evolution is.
Science very much agrees with creation, all the scientific evidence proves that creation is right. So liking technology is not against me believing in God.
32. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:19 0 0
So you believe that evolution isn't possible and that there never existed primates which turned into humans.
This also means that your "GOD" knows that we will never change and even if he magically transported us to another world, we would exploit it's resources until it dies the same way.
But if "GOD" created us in his own image, then he would be as selfish and unhelpful as a majority of oru population is and therefore would place a deaf ear to our cries for help. Either way you look at it, scientific or religiously, we ourselves killed us.
36. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:34 0 0
Well, I do belive in Evolution as well, one of the best scientists was able to ralate Creation and Evolution and came out with a great theory. everything was created for a reason, do you think that all those planets that are floating in the in space are there for no reason, it was discover that they also act as shield to protect the Earth against asteroids and other stuff with Jupiter being the main shield. There are many other examples that at the end you just come to a conclusion that ''there is a creator''.
41. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 12:41 2 2
You speak just like a ignorant person would speak.
God did create us in his image originally.
Then because of mans sin, we got out of fellowship with him, and the whole world fell outside the perfect harmony it was when God originally created the earth.Man was no longer perfect.
The good news however, is that with Jesus we can all have fellowship with our creator again ! : )
46. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:44 0 3
peter, keep your creationist lunacy out of the global warming debate. anything of merrit you might say about global warming will be overshadowed by anything you will say about creationism and u wont be taken seriously..
it might be too late.. lol
51. waveydavey (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 14:05 0 0
Can you explain to me why god and evoluteion are mutually exclusive? PLEASE?!
31. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:13 0 0
To believe there is a Creator does not make you a religious person. I listen to Heavy Metal music, and do a lot of stuff that ignorants would call against god, but I must admit and accept that there is a creator (God), because there is ''good and evil'', ''light and darkness'' ,''happiness and sadness'', and the most important ''beginning and end'' and if there was a beginning it was started by someone/something. I know that what I posted might sound kinda crazy it's just that I've been reading too much since I was a kid.
35. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:24 0 0
read the entire post. I explained a situation in which your CREATOR is included too. By the way, listening to heavy metal doesn't make you an athiest.
42. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 12:43 0 0
I personally don't listen to heavy metal music, but i like rock n roll, and rock. More specifically, i like the band called Petra (they play mostly rock). If you believe in God, and like rock, you MUST listen to the band called Petra.
44. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:01 0 0
Actually, I listen to Rock n Roll too, but my favorites bands are heavy metal: (Power metal, Black metal, Death metal,etc.). As long as they play good or have some nice lyrics I like it.
54. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 15:51 0 0
Hmm, i don't like heavy metal (if you listen at the name, black metal, and death metal, does that sound to you like it is on the dark side or the good side ?), but the band Petra is very good. I recomend you check them out if you have not already.
64. AKm007 posted on 23 Sep 2011, 03:06 0 0
The talk was about global warming and not a god. You have swayed away from the topic. If you read my other posts, you will see that we, humans ourselves have caused global warming. Natural causes don't play a significant roll here.
68. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 23 Sep 2011, 06:45 0 0
well, most of them are from the dark side but not all of them, but what I really like is how they play, I don't care much about the lyrics unless they have some nice lyrics.
76. Peterlfromsweden posted on 23 Sep 2011, 08:36 1 0
That is one reason i like Petra.
They are all hardcore christians and only have christian songs : )
6. ayephoner posted on 22 Sep 2011, 06:13 3 0
exactly what this site needs is global warming debate. (i kid)
3. Firedrops posted on 22 Sep 2011, 04:50 0 0
LOL AL GORE ON APPLE'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS?
MIND = BLOWN.
33. corps1089 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:22 0 2
Don't you know that Al Gore invented Steve Jobs!?!?
70. remixfa posted on 23 Sep 2011, 07:04 0 0
gore is mad because steve jobs refused to invent him! lol
7. alecgale posted on 22 Sep 2011, 06:15 1 0
maybe he just meant the new iphone's coming next month
8. gaijinboricua (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 06:46 0 0
Actually, the whole Climate change debate is full of flaws. We dont have enough data to predict that what is happening is completely because of human intervention or a mix of multiple factors. Scientist in parts of the world also indicate that the planet goes through phases of cooling and heating that span for thousands of years.
12. InspectorGadget80 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 08:29 0 1
Al Gore just need to stfu. I still dont see him dont see him doing anything himself bout saving the planet like recycling in his own house or pitching in helping small organization with recycling. And im sure he dont dont know they are some eco friendly phones you can buy.
13. al greed (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 08:35 0 1
al gore is a fat ass con artist. he is getting rich while promoting a green philosophy that really is designed to get more control and regulation established in the world so those who are the rich, like himself, will have more power over our lives. and yes, i do also beleive he is apart of apple corrupt company in some fashion. apple is a very politcally driven company, just like google. peter from sweden is spot on, there is no such thing as global warming and scientists have been paid off to sell this idea to give it creedence. and apple, please, 2007 yall. nothing new. that phone just straight up sucks it!
14. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 08:43 0 0
Why people keep advertising ''Global Warming'' as the end of the ''earth'' or the ''world''. People just don't care about the Earth and on top of that there are companies that use ''Global Warming'' as a way to advertise their product ''telling everybody that its product is made of such and such material that helps decrease Global Warming''.
If they advertised ''Global Warming'' as the end of the ''humanity'' and not the end of ''earth'' people would take it more seriously, because at the end we are the ones that suffer from any disaster, even if we try to destroy the earth, the earth will destroy us first, clean up the mess and then start life all over again.
15. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 09:09 0 0
Lol, some people here actually believe that global warming is a myth? How uneducated are you people? Haven't you been seeing the melting of the polar ice-caps? Or how about the hurricanes that have been brewing. IF you say that all these are not part of global warming then please do some research. @peter : The fact that you had some of the coldest winters also signifies global warming as it creates extreme weather. Don't take name literally. It's not a myth, it's man-made and it's coming fast. All your auto-mobiles run on fossil fuels that are helping global warming. Don't call it a sham just because you're in the line of fire.
18. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:00 1 2
Global warming is a myth, everyone that is scientific knows this.
20. darth8ball posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:03 0 0
Global warming is not a myth, but it's causes are not what we thought they were is a more accurate statement. Between ice ages(a naturally reoccuring event) obviously the earths mean temperate rises and then falls on it's way back to another ice age, on it's way up wouldn't that be 'global warming'
21. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:17 0 1
global warming/cooling is not a myth. the man made part of it is.
25. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:26 1 2
I agree that the man made part of it is a myth.
If the whole global warming thing is a myth or not, i'm not sure. I have not looked into that subject much.
37. AKm007 posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:39 0 2
Again. Haven't you people heard about fossil fuels or the ozone layer? Haven't you at least heard of the depletion of oil? If you haven't then i guess you must still be in middle-school.
56. hepresearch (unregistered) posted on 22 Sep 2011, 15:59 0 0
Really, everyone? Well, Pete, I guess that depends on your definition of "scientific" (kind of like President Clinton asking what the definition of "is" is...)
23. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:21 1 1
wow, swallowed the lies hook line and sinker AK.
You do realize that almost all of Al Gore's "inconvenient truth"s have been either disproven, shown to be propaganda, or our right lies... right? guess not.
The IPCC which is where 95% of global warming "research" that global warming nuts use as proof, has been all but discredited in scandal after scandal of faking information, fudging numbers, and doing things to purposely skew results, like putting global thermometers in places that are hotter than normal, like building roofs and on top of an incinerator instead of the open fields they are supposed to be in.
The polar ice caps have melted before. You obviously havent read that up in greenland as the ice caps pull back they have uncovered entire viking villages that have been buried or thousands of years under the ice. You know what that means? the earth was MUCH WARMER a long time ago. In the Alps, they have uncovered ancient mines in the mountains as the ice melts.
The vikings also kept detailed records of their naval routes, and they prove that in the 1300's the earth went through a minor ice age which is what we are now coming out of.
Its all a cycle.
26. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 22 Sep 2011, 10:42 1 0
The problem is that people won't take it serious if they keep calling ''Global Warming the end of earth. If they called it the the ''destruction of humanity'' insted, things would be different.
It doesn't have to cause Panic, but should make people realize that a little bit more of ''good care'' of the Earth will help us live in a better planet.
47. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:48 0 0
i think we all agree we need to take REAL steps to taking care of our planet a little better. we could definately be doing a better job of that.
problem is environmental hippies have jumped on this fake science of global warming and tied it to the environmental movement (because they are IDIOTS) so now any good environmental messages are thrown out with the lunacy of the idiot environmental messages and al gore's "climate change" lies.
And for anyone that doesnt realize, the west coast constantly has all those huge fires because the idiot environmentalists have gotten controlled underbrush burns banned from there, so when lightning strikes it has plenty of fuel to burn everything down quickly. states that have controlled micro burns, dont have nearly the problems.
There is a difference between smart environmentalism and the lunatics on the left.
34. darth8ball posted on 22 Sep 2011, 11:23 1 0
This planet has a limited lifespan wether or not 'global warming' is the end, the sun will swell and kill all life on earth. It will be billions of years in the future but it will happen. As a species we should be spending money on space exploration and other options on where to move on too and less on spray cans, and other crap.
43. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 12:44 1 3
You are a little wrong there, the sun wont gobble up the earth : )
God will burn up the earth : )
45. darth8ball posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:08 0 0
As the sun becomes a Red Giant it will totally encompass both Mercury and Venus and the Earth will be 20% closer than Mercury is now
48. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 13:49 0 0
i hope that was a joke peter.
unless you worship Amen Ra, the sun god... the sun will most definately swallow the earth in a few billion years.
55. PeterIfromsweden posted on 22 Sep 2011, 15:56 0 0
I dont worship any sun god !
Haven't you read the bible, in the book of revelations (where many prophesies have already been fullfilled if you look at what has happened with the world, like Israel becoming one nation again) it clearly says God is going to burn the earth, and make a entirly new earth.
61. remixfa posted on 22 Sep 2011, 21:46 0 2
peter, i dont believe in fairy tails written by senile and uneducated 40 year old men 2000 years ago
62. PeterIfromsweden posted on 23 Sep 2011, 01:44 0 1
I don't believe any evolutionist fairytales either, by starting with non life, then suddenly forming by itself by random changes and pure luck to eventually became man. That's what i call a fairytale.
The bible on the other hand makes sense, and many archeological sites in the bible for example, have been now found by modern archeologists. Another indication that the bible is true.
65. AKm007 posted on 23 Sep 2011, 03:13 0 0
Peter, how do you explain the dinosaurs? Don't tell me they don't exist. If you do agree with me, then your story of man being sent here by god would be incoherent because then our evolution from primates would have made perfect sense. And any of the places in the bible could have been there but if we write a book saying that a man came here and did miracles and a thousand years later some guys say that the place existed so the story is true, would you believe them? And yes the sun will be burning the earth, but its not for another 5 million years. And remixfa, There might have been an ice-age in the past but it never made the ozone layer break up. If you still won't agree, please read up on the ozone layer and fossil fuels. Also read up on oil because that's a major part of our ecosystem. And if you understand all that, we can a have a discussion in which one isn't any less knowledgeable.