After winning $368 million from Apple in court, VirnetX back again for more

10. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:43 30

But before having the pie one must put apple into an oven.

65. Mxyzptlk posted on 10 Nov 2012, 13:42 1

Patent abuse. Why aren't they going after other video calling services?

66. matrix_neo posted on 10 Nov 2012, 14:13 8

Who started abusing patents?! Rectangular shape with rounded corners? They don't sue other video calling services because they are like apple, suing only those who threaten the sales of their products. Remember what apple has been doing to Samsung? Is Apple should not be sued even it infringe ip's of other companies? Is apple above the law?

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69. JeffdaBeat posted on 10 Nov 2012, 14:44 2

If they've won against Apple, they will probably file suit against the other companies very soon.

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70. LionStone posted on 10 Nov 2012, 15:03 0

Which is to assume that the other companies are infringing on said patents.

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84. gothicheart posted on 11 Nov 2012, 15:02 0

unless of course, those other companies know how to respect and appreciate the innovation of others, it's only apple that copies and patent these innovation, for christsakes, even their best-selling products has a copied name....

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89. letgomyeggroll posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:31 0

They wont file law suit against other companies just Apple. They started all this, and Im sure others are giving Virtex the courage and boost to go after Apple.

And like I said the companies arent developing the Video Chat, they just let the app enable in the device thats all

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75. someones4 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 18:04 2

Because they hate Apple that's why. And they have enough money to pay, so why not?

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76. Droiddoes (unregistered) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 18:29 0

Can I buy some pot off of you, mxy? That has got to be some amazing ish.

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85. rusticguy posted on 11 Nov 2012, 20:06 0

It's their wish to decide but you are right it is {ATENT ABUSE ... by Apple though :D

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87. letgomyeggroll posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:27 0

Its a cat and mice game. Apple is the big cat and the others are the mouse. They are after Apple to show them that they are the innovation company. So these little companies are the big keys the patent of them all.

And besides, the others are using a third party for the video chatting. Unlike Apple, they are not claiming the innovations.

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15. PhenomFaz posted on 10 Nov 2012, 05:11 20

Round 2...Ding! Ding! Ding!

Oh by the way I just LLLOOOOVVVVEEEEE Pies baby...especially Apple Pie :)

61. Nadr1212 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:32 1

Looks like virnetX is becoming more like apple by the case

24. lyndon420 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 07:12 2

My favorite.

35. Googlethis posted on 10 Nov 2012, 09:02 1

some one said pie. APPLE PIE!!!!!

49. Droid_X_Doug posted on 10 Nov 2012, 10:38 2

+1 on a second helping of dessert (Thumbup!). If the roles were reversed, Apple would be going for a sales ban.

52. Mxyzptlk posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:16 2

Violation? This is patent abuse and pure greed. I think the case should be tossed out and Apple countersue.

53. tedkord posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:33 9

Your hypocrisy is duly noted.

54. Googlethis posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:36 6

You do realise that apple does the same exact thing this company is doing. So with your logic anything apple does is golden meaning that if they sue a company regardless of evidence they should win and if a company sues apple for patent infringment that company's claim should be tossed out and counter sued for wasting apples time. your mind is a bit warped.

60. Berzerk000 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:30 3

Your hypocrisy amuses me now. HAHA

79. GeekMovement posted on 11 Nov 2012, 00:00 1

Guys, he's brainwashed. He doesn't understand the word hypocrisy.

86. rusticguy posted on 11 Nov 2012, 20:08 0

Apple plays role model for all when it comes to "GREED" driven actions :)

88. letgomyeggroll posted on 12 Nov 2012, 03:28 0

Hey dummy, why don't you count how many lawsuits that Apple has right now pending alone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

64. Spariant posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:56 1

I think samsung should buy this small company and sue apple's a$$!

74. AnTuTu posted on 10 Nov 2012, 17:19 1

I am up for the "Apple pie" :)

11. Rocksteady posted on 10 Nov 2012, 04:49 22

GO VirnetX.

20. kanagadeepan posted on 10 Nov 2012, 05:43 12

Yes. But still less greedy than apple...

21. wendygarett posted on 10 Nov 2012, 05:51 10

Oops, trolling failed XP
you're right, this is the time to give Apple a lesson for not being such patent troll...

27. Hemlocke (unregistered) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 07:38 1

Apple isn't the only company, and they aren't the first. What do you think this company is going to ask of Samsung,who sells more smartphones than anyone? Lenovo? Motorola? Google? You guys are confused. Apple makes products and patents their IP. This company doesn't make anything, they are just trolls.

34. tedkord posted on 10 Nov 2012, 08:42 6

No, Apple considers all IP to be their property. That's why, as they're patenting rectangles with rounded corners and suing the entire industry for it, they still haven't paid a dime for numerous tech patents from others like Motorola and Samsung, and even told a judge that they were above the law and wouldn't be bound by her decision if they didn't like it. Arrogance at its most extreme. I had hoped this arrogance would have died with Steve Jobs, but it seems to be more tightly ingrained than imagined.

44. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 10:02 0

coz a lot of us knows that samsung and apple are frenemies!

28. Hemlocke (unregistered) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 07:42 2

Careful what you wish for, because this company isn't going to stop with Apple. EVERY phone capable of video chat is on the hook. Apple can afford to pay their fines, but how do you think HTC, Motorola, and Samsung will fare when they are looking at a billion dollar judgment?

36. Googlethis posted on 10 Nov 2012, 09:10 1

i understand your point hemlocke. im curiouse if there js any backstory to this maybe the small company tried to settle out of court first but apple wouldnt be botherd thinking they had no grounds to stand on

37. Googlethis posted on 10 Nov 2012, 09:17 0

more to what i said before maybe the other companies are working on settling out of court maybe maybe not. just wishfull thinking.

47. BadAssAbe posted on 10 Nov 2012, 10:26 1

Not all phones have a webchat app built in, most Android phones give u choices in apps

50. willard12 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:02 1

Wouldn't they have to sue the app developer rather than the phone manufacturer? For OEMs other than Apple, Skype or Tango or another developer would be infringing rather than a phone OEM.

55. Droid_X_Doug posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:38 0

The OS enables the infringement, therefore, the OS developer gets to pay the damages.

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59. tedkord posted on 10 Nov 2012, 12:29 0

If the OS itself doesn't infringe, then no, they are not liable.

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25. lyndon420 posted on 10 Nov 2012, 07:27 0

Why? You think apple is the only one who should be allowed to protect their IP? 2.4 billion dollars was spent on their amazing and innovative rectangle technology. Maybe their next 2.4 will be spent on 'researching' how NOT to piss everyone off, and maybe actually 'develop' something. But I think we all know that won't happen.

43. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 10 Nov 2012, 10:01 2

ridiculous in a way that companies are stopping innovation!

56. Droid_X_Doug posted on 10 Nov 2012, 11:39 0

Tell that to Apple. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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39. MartyK posted on 10 Nov 2012, 09:47 1

Yes it is Ridiculous!;

How dare they steal someone else patents and use it, without paying for it!!

oh wait, they do that all the time....hahahah