After the iPhone 4S, there must be an iPhone 5: here's what we believe it will bring
0. phoneArena 05 Oct 2011, 09:43 posted on
A lot of us were expecting Apple to introduce the iPhone 5 yesterday, especially when it took it longer than usual to be ready for a public announcement. However, that wasn't the case, and instead, the company unveiled what many prefer to refer to as simply an upgrade, or a facelift of the iPhone 4, rather than a brand new model...
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1. ks (unregistered)
its old news
oHH i am First
30. AppleFUD (unregistered)
What BS. . . just proving what apple w#@$%s some phonearena writers are. . .
It's over! No iphone 5. . . and none of the rumors about are anything close to what it will be if it ever does come about. The next most likely will be iphone 6 anyways.
52. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
this indeed total rubbish from phonearena,discussing the potential iphone 4ss or iphone 5 or 6z or which ever name apple decides to call the exact same phone next year! All talk of these specs this year and nothing happened its ridiculous to get islaves excited already as we all know must of these updates won't happen from Apple.
The ironic and brilliant part of the article is that most if not all of the 'must have spec items' are now already found in current top android phones or about to before the year is out!
Iphone 5 will be ahead of the curve again sept next year will with these specs lol
61. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
These are the specs the iPhoneArena writers wish were on the 4s.
Of course...SHOULD be on the 4s. Not.
Show us more pictures of chinese ladies assembling phones that "prove" the next generation iphone to have a bigger screen.
Your site is a total joke.
2. Firestarter2 (unregistered)
There are 2 scenarios
1) The Iphone 4s was the iphone 5 just re-branded when apple realized they were behind the curve.
2) The Iphone 5 was scraped and the 4s was a last minute replacement. The hardware changes in the 4s dont seem like they would take a lot of time to implement
Im not sure which. But if the Iphone 5 never existed why didnt apple kill the rumors of it 6 months ago?
7. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)
IPhone 5 will be iPhone 4S with some flavor of 4G radio and bigger screen and redesign.
IPhone 5S will be iPhone 5 with quad core.
This way Apple can incrementally take all the money out of fanboy pockets. who buy every new "must have" model that comes out.
51. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1097; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
They didn't squash the rumors because they wanted people to be excited the entire year. However, it made it all the more sweet because everyone was expecting it to be this HUGE thing and it turned out not to be that. It's funny to watch the reactions of people after hearing the news.
On a side note, this will allow Android to start surpassing Apple when it comes to technology. If we are expecting a new iphone next summer to fall, then that gives Android manufacturers plenty of time to introduce newer and better technology. There are even rumors that the next galaxy phone, GSIII, will be announced at the beginning of next year.
This also allows WP7 to play catch up. With iphone dropping the ball, it gives WP7 the opportunity in the next year to put in better CPUs and GPUs into their phones.
Finally, the manufacturer that is probably most excited about this is Blackberry. After the news of the iPhone 4S, they were most likely ecstatic that their brand is not obsolete...yet.
60. Juice (unregistered)
Exactly. Android and it's manufacturers get 3 moves where Apple only gets one. It's obvious who is going to look like the best device more often. The iPhone no longer "own" the hardware department. Hand down. The OS is debatable. But hardware they will NEVER own because you can't when you competitors make 3 moves to your one. And that's just how it is. We as Android users suffer with upgrade complex's because there is a new better device every other month. But, whatever device we buy on any given day is usually sure to be the latest technology at the time.
3. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ok seriously, after yesterdays supreme dissapointment your going to just restart the same ol rumor mill?? wow. seriously.
in other news "we believe the next iphone will be even more like android".. geeeze.
6. snowgator (Posts: 3554; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Sooo with ya. Can we at least wait for the freaking 4S to come out before we start the next round of iPhone 5 stuff?? Over-stinking-kill, Phone Arena. Felt the same way about Droid Prime stuff before the GS2 was even released, and W8 stuff bfore Mango was even out. Old ladies gossiping only pick one thing at a time, why can't mobile???
11. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)
I agree in part, rather than new iPhone 5 rumors, I think we need a thread that covers all the recent past rumors and denotes which applied to the 4S and which will apply to the 5 [since there seems to be a lot of unfulfilled rumors and we all expected the iPhone 5 not the 4S]
26. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3103; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Couldn't agree more. I wanted the competition so android would have to take it to the next level but the SGS2 kills the iPhone 4s and we haven't even began to eat ICS. This will just be a slaughter for the sheep.
4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4801; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Well that is a very safe bet. Now let’s hope the iPhone 5 can actually make a difference, because Android as a HUGE head start on those quad-core phones. Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony, & LG are all putting their finishing touches on those quad-core phones & production is literally around the corner. The minute 2012 hits the flood gates will open & quad-core mobile phones from Android WILL DOMINATE! AGAIN Apple will be late to the party.
21. quakan (Posts: 1351; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
I hate people like you. How do you compare one phone to an entire OS and all of the phones that runs it? How about you try comparing one phone to another phone. The iPhone has been the number one selling smartphone 3 years in a row and the 4s looks to keep that going. The reason why android manufacturers are usually the first to incorporate a technology into their phones is because they have to in order to compete against the other android manufacturers. They have to try to sell you a phone based on specs not the experience. Apple releases one phone per year so i would hope an android phone could pass them up because it seems like every couple months a new big phone is out. Honestly, iOS is better working and looking than android and the easiest to use which is the point of tech. I bet if iOS had nearly as many phone manufacturers as android, iOS would control the market. With one phone they have roughly 30% of the market so imagine if there were more iOS phones.
23. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
But a different phone with iOS is not an iPhone. Apple is all about the image, if you have not realize. A huge draw for Apple product is the hardware and just the software. And your opinion is your opinion. For me iOS is ugly, boring and it just an app launcher.
24. superguy (Posts: 288; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I'm sure if Apple allowed other vendors to sell its phone that it likely wouldn't be the number 1 seller of phones. Allowing others to sell iOS wouldn't necessarily translate into dominating sales. More, perhaps, but no guarantee. The rest of your iOS vs. Android arguments re: looks, feel, etc are subjective.
You have 2 ecosystems - iOS and Android. That's what's being compared because, unlike Apple - you have choice with Android. You ilke Samsung's specs and UI? Buy a Sammy. You don't like it - buy a Moto or HTC. There's everything up and down the spectrum in specs and price to meet a person's needs. With Apple, you get to choose from 2 models ago, last year's model, and the current one, with only real choice of how much flash it has. It's not really much of a choice.
If there were one manufacturer of Android, we'd likely see Apple being the smaller player. However, since there isn't, you compare the ecosystems. We could compare other makers too for Apple - if they existed.
34. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if apple allowed others to make iOS phones a few things would happen
1) they would probably have an increase in market share
2)the whole "iphone is the best selling phone" would go out the window in a heart beat as customers would actually have choices on devices
3)the iphone as a status symbol would be destroyed as its no longer an "exclusive device", which would actually hurt sales
4)Apple would have reduced ability to control quality, which means more bugs and issues.. just like android.
5) they would get cheaper with inter manufacturer competion.. which is a good thing
6)manufacturers would start differentiating by changing features and tech.. which would make point #4 a big concern.
basically you would end up with iOS being in similar situations as android, but it would lack all the features of android still since its far ahead. You would kill everything that makes iOS "magical" basically. A few good things would definately happen, but over all i think it would be a negative for iOS to allow others to make devices.
46. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4801; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok I will humor you quakan. Well I hate dumb people like you. Your brain must be the size of a duck huh quakan? iOS is just on 1 phone. That phone is the iPhone. I am sorry but you are in total denial. The iPhone 4S is a mid-tier phone. The over 6 month old Samsung Galaxy S II is WAY more powerful than the iPhone 4S. The iPhone 4S won’t be able to wipe the dirt off the shoes of the Google Nexus Prime once it come out. That is how weak that phone is! iOS is easier to use to you because it's a dumbed down OS for an iSheep with the brain size of a duck kind of like you quakan! lol Dude you are so lacking in knowledge, how can you say Android manufactures sell on specs only & not experience? If that was true then they would sell the phone with no OS then because you say they only like the specs. People in the world & the U.S. are choosing Android because they like it, they can easily choose to buy an iPhone 4 but they don’t. It’s not because the Android phone has top specs so get real. Dude you are speaking hypothetical’s. The FACT is that Apple WILL be the ONLY manufacturer for iOS. Android is the total opposite. If you were good enough to make your own phone, you can put Android on it if you wish. Apple will never allow you to do that. I compare Samsung, HTC, Motorola, & LG to Apple because currently they all have more powerful phones right now compared to the unreleased iPhone 4S. Again it’s not Android’s fault that all the manufacturers want to make phones for it, but coming from duck brained quakan I can’t compare the Android manufactures to Apple’s iPhone. The ONLY reason Apple is top in sales is because they are the only one selling the iPhone. Android has so much competition within itself, & that doesn’t mention the direct competition to Apple itself. So naturally a particular Android manufacturer would not sell as much a Apple would. I mean that is so simple. As a whole Android dominates. People like Android & like the choices they have within Android. That is something that Apple can't do!
62. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
First off SuperAndroidIdiot , you are a retard. I just though that I had to say that. Second, the first galaxy s sucked and so did the second. Third, customers do mostly buy arndroids for specs because every android put out by manufacturers for carriers look the same. i.e. the motorola droids like droid a855 and the droid 2 and droid 3 all look the same as far as OS and overal design. Now I'm not positive about Sprint, ATT, and Tmobile's androids (because they aren't worth the coparison anyways), but I would vernture to say the same. Fourth, the androids aren't that complex so it's not like it takes a genuis to operate those either. Fifth, you can never compare one android to the iphone in sales, and that's not because of the different options, it's because no one android phone is that great. Sixth, Apple is smart by not releasing 20 different Iphones because they want to berfect, not premature the phone and have a bunch of issues.ehh ehh... can anyone say HTC Thunderbolt? Seventh, to finish this up, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about shut your mouth and you're a retard again.
65. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4801; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
NVPMOTHAF, your name is pretty RETARTED, just saying. Wow all you wrote & you sound so smart. Let's start breaking you down. 1. It's WIDELY known the Samsung Galaxy S line were the best phones at the time. You lose credibility when you say they sucked. Look at the reviews & play with one now & you will see that you FAIL. 2. The Samsung Galaxy S II is the world’s GREATEST Phone EVER MADE. That phone is over 6 months old & it’s STILL way more powerful then the iPhone 4S. FAIL. 3. Customers buy Androids because they are the best phones, not because of specs. The reason why Android has high specs is because they are competing against themselves. Samsung has competition from HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, Pantech, ZTE, the list goes on & vice versa. Also on top of that they need to compete with Apple. So you are a fool to think anything else. They need to have the best equipment to stand out of the huge OCEAN that Android is. So you guessed it FAIL. (See the pattern?) 4. You don't know about Sprint, AT&T, & T-Mobile because you are uneducated & like to ramble BS from you weak little mouth. It's a FACT that Verizon has the WEAKEST smart phone line up. If you love 3G then Verizon is for you, all of the other carriers have multiple dual-core phones running on 4G. Verizon just had one & it’s a VERY recent addition. The Motorola Droid Bionic. So please do a little research you fool. Again FAIL. lol (It's getting funny) 5. You are right Android's aren't complex so I am always baffled why iSheep always brag on how easy iOS is. If you can use iOS then you can use Android & vice versa. So what is your point? Again FAIL. 6. I don't compare 1 Android phone to the iPhone because they are not great? Hmmm how about this, the Samsung Galaxy S II kills the iPhone 4 in every way, then the Motorola Droid Bionic, then the HTC Evo 3D, then the HTC Sensation 4G, then the Motorola Artix, then the LG Thrill 4G, then the LG GX 2. Those for starters are more powerful than the iPhone 4 & all are 4G & all are dual-cores. Now just so I don't bore you with more FACTS I won't bother with the single-core 4G & 3G phones. So again how many were those, each more powerful & with 4G. Again FAIL. lol 7. Apple can't compete if they release 20 phones at one time. It's obvious that the demand for the iPhone is not like the demand for Android. So it’s not smart to say what you said, it’s just that THEY CAN’T DO IT. If what you say is true then why are people getting Android phones world-wide when the iPhone is available on almost every carrier? Also the HTC Thunderbolt had issues that have been resolved a long time ago. The iPhone 4’s issue has been resolved too, just put a case on it or just hold it the right way. lol Again FAIL. 8. I will quote you word for word “to finish this up, if you don't know what you are talking about, how about shut your mouth and you're a retard again.” Thank you I didn’t have to say it! lol You are 100% WEAK!
67. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
I like this. Some body to argue against. Let's break it down again. As I said before, you can't consider the ATT, Sprint, and TMobile as "powerful phones that have 4G" because the speed of all their 4G networks are slow. Verizon LTE is the fastest network and your comments about the Galaxy S are opinion based much like mine on the Iphone. Now I didn't say the Iphone is the best phone EVER made like you. Here's a question, do you sleep with the galaxy lineup or what? Now let's talk about powerful, have you tested the speed on the A5 chip yet? That one is an obvious no. Tell me why is it that every 3 to 4 months, android comes out with another phone (that's giving it a wider time frame than I should give it credit for) to compete with the ones that are already out even within the same manufacturer. Some one with no brain would know that it's because the phone sales tank 2-3 months after release date. And everytime someone get's a new android all they talk about is the next one that comes out. Now if the phone's are that good and stable then why don't people brag about their phone rather than the upcoming one? Let's hear your answer to that.
73. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4801; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok I live in a great WiMAX & LTE town. My friend just got the Motorola Droid Bionic & I have the HTC Evo 3D. He consistently beats me when we have our website races. He beats me by 3 to 5 seconds. I am so fine with that. I average 6 to 12 Mbps. That is cool with me. I sleep very well. I don't get capped, I don't get throttled & I pay less than he does. So you are right Sprint is 3 to 5 seconds slower but to not consider them is a very bogus statement. Today Sprint is announcing their changes to their 3G & 4G networks so PLEASE stay tuned. I have a clue how the A5 chips on Apple devices work because it's the same chip on the iPad 2. Samsung has an Exynos 1.5GHz that is about to come out & WILL crush the A5. Also Qualcomm are coming out with 28nm 1.5 to 2.0GHz S3 chips that will also devastate the A5. These are literally around the corner. Also NVIDIA is releasing their Tegra 3 which are quad-core so the A5 chips are literally obsolete. Android comes out with a new phone every 3 to 4 months because they are absolutely HUGE. Again Apple is one company so if you want iOS then you can ONLY go to Apple. So Apple can control the iOS market which they do. Android has no control. So if Samsung releases a phone & it's selling well the only way HTC can get more sales is to up the ante & make a better product so then HTC can get the sales. This is the ecosystem in the Android OCEAN. Now Samsung does the same again & then Sony, ZTE, LG, Motorola, Pantech, & so one do the same thing. So in theory Androids advancements have come in direct competition within itself & thus Apple has been left in the dust. Apple believe it or not is an innocent bystander. Windows Phone 7 is in a similar to Android in that multiple manufacturers are making phones for them. Samsung, HTC, Nokia so if Windows Phone 7 catches fire like Android has then the same explosion in phones will happen to them. Thus the vicious cycle again. I love my phone. The HTC Evo 3D is sick, I have it rooted & I have it at 1.6GHz running CM7. I want the Google Nexus Prime because it has something my phone doesn't, the NFC chip. I really want to use Google Wallet. Other than that I want a quad-core phone. I guess Android fans get so excited because we the Android users always get the hottest tech first. Apple is now playing catch up & the proof is in the pudding. Just look at the iPhone 4S. They didn't even redesign the phone. I think they DID have an iPhone 5 ready, but compared to the Google Nexus Prime it looked like a mid-tier phone. So they scrapped it & went back to the drawing board. The decided to release the iPhone 4S because they had the parts already & didn't need to make new parts for it. Apple needed to show something & that something is the iPhone 4S. You mean to tell me that in the over a year since the iPhone 4 was released they couldn't come out with a redesign & put 4G on an iPhone. Really?
5. Phenom 19-0 (unregistered)
Why quad core ?
You should better think of having hexacore processors
8. JGuinan007 (Posts: 675; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Maybe the Iphone5 wil come out this June on all carriers as to make the share holders happier and make up for the Failure of 4s
9. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Well, there is always the possibility of having an iPhone 4GS! No redesign, just minor tweaks and a 4G radio. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
53. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
the next iphone is the iphone 4ss, the extra s is for salt
55. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
That would make it even more MAGICAL!
69. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
I love the iphone and that comment actually made me laugh. That would be the funniest thing I've ever seen.
10. android_hitman (unregistered)
PA is paid by apple to start these kind of rumors and to do advertisements!!
17. harsh_732006 (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
i am sure atleast some of the writers are..:P
12. mike (unregistered)
A double led probably
13. Phenom 19-0 (unregistered)
Because after an year when apple will release their new iPhone then quad core processors will get outdated . But apple will still try to keep up the pace with the then modern android phones instead of thinking of the future.
14. Meedlies (Posts: 8; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
Wow! I am really excited about what the iphone5 might.......................................................................................................Huh?....What?....Oh sorry I fell asleep there. What were we talking about again?
15. Mike V (unregistered)
Apple has always been behind in the spec department. They have NEVER been the first with anything.
Not the first in getting to 1ghz processor
Not the first in Ram memory
Not the first in memory storage
Not the first in largest display
Not the first to offer 3G
Not the first to integrate media
Not the first in dual core
Not the first with NFC
Not the first to be true HD
BUT they also never claimed to be. The IPhone 5 will not be dual core. And maybe be 4G. Maybe be a 4" display.
I use a iPhone 4 by the way.
19. harsh_732006 (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
they were the first with the retina display..:)
36. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
A term they made up that doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny.
Marketing isn't specs.
56. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they were the first to come out with it. LG invented it and probably let Apple have first dibs for a fat premium.
22. quakan (Posts: 1351; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
They have been number one in smartphone sales since the 3G came out.
49. cncrim (Posts: 791; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Too bad for them from now on, they will have to play catching up, Google rule.
70. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
ehh hemm! Iphone was the first phone with a major app store
- Anroid copied
The first html web browser
- Android copied
71. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
Im sure i could come up with more but those are the major ones.
74. ihopassasin (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
but they did alll of those things very well. Thats what apple does. They take existing technology, and make it better. And tats why I have used apple products forever. Because i COULD use the first company for everything, but it wouldn't be as good. So whats the point?
18. OfcJScottG (Posts: 9; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Yeah lets start some more rumors so everyone is let down when it doesn't come to fruition. Love the site but quit with the rumors and speculation already. If I wanted to read a bunch of crap I'd get the National Inquirer.
20. Mike V (unregistered)
First with the retina display because the display remained at 3.5". While everyone else staring with phone's like the EVO Droid etc.. Took it to 4.3". If you street h out that 3.5" current retina display and change nothing else guess what happens to the DPI on that display. Someone do the math please...
25. aar0983 (Posts: 51; Member since: 26 Sep 2011)
It won't have a quad-core or bigger display. PA seriously needs to stop with all this rumor stuff. They haven't even start an iphone 5 when 4s was just announced yesterday. c'mon man let's give it a break.
27. vishu9 (Posts: 252; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
What is the use?! iSheeps like you keep dreaming of getting the latest features only to be let down by ur gods..I so pity you dumbasses...wake up! Android can be ur only saviour!
28. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
who cares??? there is no iphone5 get over it
32. ZayZay (Posts: 571; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
Get out of here with this garbage. This isn't news its iphonearena wishing for another iphone.
33. Apple Conspiracy (unregistered)
Apple was first with Retina display? Only in terms of marketing. For instance, Sony Ericsson X1 had 312 ppi on 3.0" screen, which is enormous density close to Retina but didn't brag about it...
35. MarloThaMartian (Posts: 44; Member since: 27 Dec 2010)
Lol they are really looking forward to 1phone 5's. I hope Apple brings your hopes back down with an Iphone 4S2.
37. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 590; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
The iPhone 5 will have an innovative unicorn shape with a magical figment of your imagination interface.
38. NoFanBoyHere (unregistered)
Are you kidding me, Apple breaks a HORRIBLE announcement yesterday, so since you can only be saddened by the horrible news of yesterday, PA decides to start the rumor mill about the iPhone 5, using all of their FAILED guesses about the 4s release yesterday?
LAZY...Good thing you all arent REAL journalists...
39. Son Do (unregistered)
So immediately after the iPhone 4S was announced, people already start to speculate the iPhone 5?
40. thecellx (unregistered)
Can we take a rest of the rumor mill?... 1000 rumors in the past... and just the obvious ones were true: camera and A5.... this is nonsense
41. hunted (Posts: 403; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
i dont want to talk about again apple iphone.
42. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
see what you fandroids always talking about the iphone... this is your creation . so now live with it....
43. Anondoea (unregistered)
It will revolutionize the way we watch porn.