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Adding Flash 10.1 has negative effect on stock Android browser
Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for-because it just might come true. For years, smartphone users have been wanting Adobe Flash capabilities on their mobile browser. Now that Android 2.2 brings Flash 10.1 with it, yes, web sites on the phone resemble what you see on your computer screen. But in exchange for being able to see all of the animations and video that Flash provides, the browser's speed and performance drops off tremendously. No one would  have taken this contest seriously except that Google is saying that the increase in handset speed provided by the JIT compiling that Android features on the 2.2 OS, makes the stock browser on Froyo the fastest mobile browser. In this taped contest between the iPhone's mobile Safari, the N-One with the stock Android browser running Flash 10.1, and the HTC HD2 using Opera Mobile 9.7 , the truth is that the iPhone's mobile Safari beats out Android each time. Disable Flash, and the N-One browser is the quickest. Not only does Flash slow down the Android browser, it also makes the usually smooth kinetic scrolling extremely choppy. All these years everyone has demanded Flash, and it does work great providing animation and video, but you might end up turning Flash support off when you see how it turns a hare into a turtle.

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1. networkdood posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:46

So, Steve Jobs is correct. But, I believe someday Google will correct the issue. If not running a psuedo flash browser such as SKYFIRE should be good enough.

2. dswatson83 posted on 25 May 2010, 12:13

compare apples with apples. Disable flash and let android browser kick apples a$$. Don't penalize google for allowing you to give a little extra. You going to rank hd cameras lower than sd cameras cause you can't hold as much video on the card??? What are you trying to conclude phonearena? I'm sure your car does better gas mileage with your AC off too but I don't see you sweating it out. Plus this is running a pre release version of adobe flash 10.1, not the final one.

4. android#1 posted on 25 May 2010, 12:15

Haha great minds think alike. We posted at the same time.+1 to you

5. ilia1986 posted on 25 May 2010, 12:19

Hate to say it - but.. umm.. told you? Now the main issue is not the performance of Flash - but the fact that on a typical page there are many many essentially useless flash elements, like Ads, unnecessary graph effects, etc. Now, what Adobe and Google need to do, is to only load flash on those elements which are either movies or games. That would substantially improve the problem imho.

9. ILOVEIPHONE25 (unregistered) posted on 25 May 2010, 14:39

I am noticing all these guys on here that are Google fanboys are backing up all of the crap that google comes out with. I am a apple fanboy to the extreme but I am not ignorant to the fact that some of the things apple does really sucks. Flash sucks ass for mobile phones and admit it. Flash is whatever on a powerful desktop or laptop but mobile phone... Absolutely not. I am sorry but NOT GOOGLE but shity ass Adobe needs to go back to the drawing board.

22. zZ INFINITY Zz posted on 26 May 2010, 13:14

People, people... It's all about having the OPTION to do something. Now it was kind of a sure thing that adding Full Flash to a mobile browser would slow things down. But, it works pretty well for a beta. Thats what i like about Google, Android. You get freedom, you can choose if you want something or not. I dont't need a person, Steve, telling me what is best for me. To be honest, I will probably keep full flash turned off most of the time. Because I save battery life, because I speed up my browser, because I dont even need flash all the time. BUT, if I ever need to see some flash content, I know I can. And then, I can turn around to my friends with iphones and hit them with my Desire and scream 'pwnd'

24. lovebuzz posted on 26 May 2010, 15:02

Ilovephone, you can't exactly knock it until you've seen the finished product. There you go with your "fanboy" roast and yet you haven't even stopped to think that tests like these are necessary to make sure it runs well. I'm sure they are aware of the work left to do and since they haven't even given an ACTUAL RELEASE DATE yet i think the one here in the fanboy pants would be you, because once Flash does come out for mobile phones you're going to be seriously missing out, and you know it.

26. DonkeyPunched posted on 27 May 2010, 05:19

Okay, I understand everyone's view here and how the reason is because its a "beta". Seriously, how much of an improvement do you think they can actually do? We aren't talking about "fanboyism" between iPhone and Android, we are talking about the quality of update. I've installed it onto my N1, and all the negativity is true. I would hope for them to roll out something that won't slow down the browser, but what are the odds? And having freedom is one thing, but what if I actually want to watch Flash? I guess I get stuck with having crappy browsing then? This problem shouldn't exist, especially after how much Apple has said about their software. I dunno, I don't want to get on Adobe so much after making this (somewhat) possible, but uhhhh they really need to step it up in the final release because this is unacceptable.

3. android#1 posted on 25 May 2010, 12:13

It was expected because inevitably running a full web browser requires more resources from the device, likewise, that fact doesn't make Apple's browser the best. Apples to apples, or comparing two devices with no flash, Android wins, however add computer capabilities on a phone, then you know. I doubt iPhone would do better if it had flash.

6. networkdood posted on 25 May 2010, 12:36

LOL, I got 2 minuses - what a bunch of pathetic imbeciles - read the entire post ANDROID fanboys. What would be a good test is run FLASH on both an ANDROID phone and the iphone and see how they compare. Yeah, we all know this is just the prelims. Hopefully, it will improve with the final version or maybe we will have to wait for 2.3 - GINGERBREAD.

19. vinsterdamus posted on 26 May 2010, 06:00

flash updates separate from the OS. it's a separate downloadable so it can go into final without any os changes

20. Templer16 posted on 26 May 2010, 06:45

I think thats the whole point to the response of your first post. Right now (and probably never) we will never get to compare flash on Android vs Apple cause Jobs doesnt want it. I hate to sound like the commercial but in this case DROID DOES I really dont think one can sit back and critisize google or anyone for being the "first" in something. Simple fact is that Apple has had the best mobile web experience for the last 2-3 yrs, after froyo their crown will be taken by Android in terms of better speed and a ton more capability.

25. lovebuzz posted on 26 May 2010, 15:03

Networkdood - people give you minuses because you are annoying.

7. rwolf1984 posted on 25 May 2010, 13:07

damn...that sucks...i think skyfire is the way to go though...

8. GlenF posted on 25 May 2010, 13:17

yeah... pre release softwear on a nexus one. now THERE"S an accurate test. Lets wait till the official release then try it on an Incredible or EVO. But then Phone arena may not be able to lovingly crown their I-phones as the greatest thing ever.

10. pingpong posted on 25 May 2010, 15:52

Why is everyone bitching? I for one didn't know that this Beta Flash was slowing down my browser and from READING THE ENTIRE ARTICLE phone arena was bascially making a realistic comparison. I for one didn't realize my N1 browser was running a little slower with Flash but I find that this is good information.

11. Hallucinator posted on 25 May 2010, 15:54

I love how you guys try to blame phone arena for any negative things said about Android. You Flame "Apple Fanboys" (which I am) when you are the worst fanboys I have ever seen. A phone is a personal preference. I've owned the N1, HD2, Hero and Droid, none of which compare to the Iphone(For me, not everyone) I don't begrudge someone liking Android or WM. You need to grow up.

12. jtucker1987 posted on 25 May 2010, 16:24

Well said!! It's all preference!! +1

13. ilia1986 posted on 25 May 2010, 16:31

Minor correction. Its not ALL preference. Its a preference when it comes to Android, the iPhone and maybe the Blackberry. Its NOT a preference when it comes to anything else. Just wanted to point that out.

14. jtucker1987 posted on 25 May 2010, 17:28

Haha true ilia!! +1

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