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AT&T says it could be America's largest 4G network

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AT&T says it could be America's largest 4G network
We earlier reported about T-Mobile's new aggressive ad campaign with the tag line, "America's largest 4G network". As we have discussed, this is based on the carrier's HSPA+ network capabilities of churning out 21Mbps in an area covering about 140 million Americans.

Now comes word from AT&T that its HSPA+ network is not capped at 14.4Mbps, but is also capable of the same 21Mbps as T-Mobile. Even more interesting is that AT&T's HSPA+ coverage reaches 180 million people. Therefore, if T-Mobile can call their service "4G", AT&T should also have that right. And at last check, 180 is more than 140 which would make AT&T the owner of America's largest 4G network.

In an e-mail to Phonescoop, AT&T writes, "T-Mobile’s claims about 4G are based on the same HSPA+ technology we have deployed to 180 million people today, more than T-Mobile’s reported 140 million, and we’ll have it rolled out to 250 million people by the end of this month, substantially more than the 200 million T-Mobile says it will have by year-end."

While the nation's fourth largest carrier offers two HSPA+ enabled devices, the T-Mobile G2 and the T-Mobile myTouch 4G, AT&T has only a USB modem that can use the HSPA+ pipeline. In fact, AT&T has no handset that is capable of running at faster than  7.2Mbps although they have hinted that this could change.

Will AT&T quickly put together an HSPA+ enabled handset and call it a 4G phone? Will T-Mobile pull its new ads after just a few nights of airing? One thing for sure, with the fierceness that T-Mobile used in its ad, we wouldn't expect AT&T to just let this matter slide.

source: Phonescoop

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posted on 04 Nov 2010, 00:53

1. TheEclectic (Posts: 77; Member since: 23 Sep 2009)


HSPA+ is not 4G, but gullible consumers will fall for these deceptions.

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 06:20

3. PHONE EXPERT (unregistered)


WiMax (What sprint has) or LTE What Verizon and ATT are going for, are not 4G either. But gullible customers will fall for these deceptions.

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 07:13

4. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


no one has 4G the ones to blame are the guys that are supposed to check if what companies say its true, i dont know whats wrong with calling these 3G+ instead and claim is 2X faster or whatever instead of claiming it 4G, but i have to say customers dont actually seem to care much when their overall speed is faster than before.

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 09:55

5. kristoferallen (Posts: 34; Member since: 23 Jun 2010)


it was only recently that they changed the specifications to what 4g had to consist of as far as speed goes. sprint, verizon and att were just fine calling it 4g before and it was far to late to just change up after all that work all because they wanted to change things a month ago. t-mobile on the other hand though knows what they're doing cause it was after the change. 3G+ would be a good name though.

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 02:17

2. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


@theeclectic blame tmo for that. Technically no carrier is gonna have 4g yet. But the point is att is playing the me too game and they have the numbers(if not the handsets) to win. Poor tmo. Just can't get the same marketshare as it's European counterpart.

posted on 26 Jan 2011, 11:15

11. yeahright (unregistered)


What good is a ATT HSPA+ network if there are no phones that you can use on it? How many of the 150M people ATT covers have a data stick?

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 12:12

6. GABRIEL (unregistered)


CHICAGO -- 4G World -- Everyone knows that AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) is planning to move to Long Term Evolution (LTE) next year, but is the operator also planning a further upgrade of its 3G network in 2011?

In his keynote here on Tuesday, David Haight, VP of business development at AT&T's Emerging Devices Organization, said that if users roam off LTE, they would go to faster 3G in 2011. "The good news is that you're going to fall back to HSPA+, so you're falling back to 21 megabits, not 7.2 or 3.6," Haight told the crowd. (See 4G World: AT&T Learns Lessons From iPad.)

So far, AT&T has only said that it will deploy the earlier 14.4Mbit/s upgrade by the end of this year, revealing nothing about a 21Mbit/s upgrade in 2011. So we asked AT&T what the official word on this was.

"HSPA+ technology has a theoretical maximum speed of 21Mbps," a spokeswoman said, in an email reply to questions. "WE HAVE NOT BEGUN DEPLOYING THE TECHNOLOGY AT THIS TIME" she said that only this October, then now magically they have 21 hspa+ (See AT&T Plots Widescale HSPA+ Rollout .)

Nonetheless, if AT&T is interested in keeping up with GSM rival T-Mobile then HSPA+ is a logical progression. T-Mobile is currently rolling out a 21Mbit/s upgrade for 100 cities by year's end; it currently has the speed boost running in 65 cities in the US.

The average download speeds offered on 21Mbit/s HSPA+ are in the 5 to 8 Mbit/s range. (See T-Mobile's HSPA+ Rivals Clearwire, US LTE Speeds.)

I called a friend who is engineer in AT&T mobility unit & he said to me that THEY STILL USE THE 7.2 & 14.4 HSPA NOT YET THE 21 HSPA+.

BEST LIAR OF ALL TIME - AT&T...

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 13:34

7. skymitch89 (unregistered)


Just waiting to see what Apple has to say about the ad in the fact that it is dissing on the iPhone. I think that I'm going to give up on yelling at T-Mobile that HSPA+ is not 4G since AT&T are now saying that they could call their HSPA+ network 4G as well (and I kinda think that they should to keep in the game of high-speed data

posted on 04 Nov 2010, 23:20

8. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


So, At&t barely has a decent 3G network but somehow they're deploying a 4G network overnight? Interesting. T-mobile has "America's largest 4G network" and i keep seeing the "21Mbps" thrown around but in the wireless game T-mobile continues to nurse the last place position. Again, interesting.

posted on 05 Nov 2010, 01:49

9. justin (unregistered)


I am the nation's largest 4g network. And the nation's fastest. And the nation's most reliable. Thats right, me.

posted on 05 Nov 2010, 02:59

10. Gabriel (unregistered)


CHICAGO -- 4G World -- Everyone knows that AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) is planning to move to Long Term Evolution (LTE) next year, but is the operator also planning a further upgrade of its 3G network in 2011?

In his keynote here on Tuesday, David Haight, VP of business development at AT&T's Emerging Devices Organization, said that if users roam off LTE, they would go to faster 3G in 2011. "The good news is that you're going to fall back to HSPA+, so you're falling back to 21 megabits, not 7.2 or 3.6," Haight told the crowd. (See 4G World: AT&T Learns Lessons From iPad.)

So far, AT&T has only said that it will deploy the earlier 14.4Mbit/s upgrade by the end of this year - 2010, revealing nothing about a 21Mbit/s upgrade in 2011. So we asked AT&T what the official word on this was.

"HSPA+ technology has a theoretical maximum speed of 21Mbps," a spokeswoman said, in an email reply to questions. "WE HAVE NOT BEGUN DEPLOYING THE TECHNOLOGY AT THIS TIME",she said that ONLY this October - then now magically they have 21 hspa+??? (See AT&T Plots Widescale HSPA+ Rollout .)

Nonetheless, if AT&T is interested in keeping up with GSM rival T-Mobile then HSPA+ is a logical progression. T-Mobile is currently rolling out a 21Mbit/s upgrade for 100 cities by year's end; it currently has the speed boost running in 75 cities in the US.

The average download speeds offered on 21Mbit/s HSPA+ are in the 5 to 8 Mbit/s range. (See T-Mobile's HSPA+ Rivals Clearwire, US LTE Speeds.)
When we are in Austin,Texas for ANDROID FESTIVAL, TMobile executives said that 42Mbps hspa+ will be available by last week of January or 1st week of February-2011 then AT&T will start to deploy 21Mbps hspa+...

I called a friend who is engineer in AT&T MOBILITY unit & he said to me that THEY STILL USE THE 7.2Mbps & 14.4Mbps HSPA, NOT YET THE 21 HSPA+ (maybe next year around February-2011, he said)

BEST LIAR OF ALL TIME - AT&T...

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