AT&T memo responds to Verizon ads

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Nov 2009, 17:04

The cellular version of the Hatfields and the McCoys are at it again as AT&T takes some shots at Verizon in a memo...

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18. theelysium posted on 13 Nov 2009, 22:08

Don't get me wrong I am all for some good advertising and companies taking the gloves of, but to swing the facts like Verizon has it's just bad business.

20. secondcor517 posted on 13 Nov 2009, 23:02

if you look at the fine print, it says the map is from aug 2009, not 2008.

21. Truth posted on 13 Nov 2009, 23:13

You can go to at&t and check their 3g coverage map and then compare it to Verizon's 3g coverage map and see for yourself. At&t isn't suing cause the maps are wrong. They know the maps are right they are suing because people like you do not know the difference between 3g and voice coverage and if judging by some of the responses in this forum they may have a case if people are that uneducated. If you have never traveled the country with Verizon 3g coverage or any of their services then it is understandable to not believe that cell coverage can be that good.

30. vzwtechbill posted on 14 Nov 2009, 16:23

"Also, in the commercials Verizon shows you their 3G + Digital coverage map" Hate to tell you, but the entire VZW network is digital. Cell phone companies and cable companies are having to go all digital to free up bandwith, hence the DTV Transition. Those maps are APPLES to APPLES. AT&T just doesn't like that their apple is 1/5 the size of VZW. Go towww.vzw.com/coverage, punch in a zip, and you can see the differences between "Broadband" (3G) and "Extended" (2.5G). Then go tohttp://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/ and use the legend on AT&T's maps, then stuff it.

8. blackirish24 posted on 13 Nov 2009, 19:18

I would respond with a 2g coverage map for the United States, Customer satisfaction surveys from 3rd party companies, and point out that LTE comes out in a few months. Wouldn't file for court litagation to stop them from posting anything that can be backed by the truth. At&t is a great company....Verizon is a great company. The consumers have proved it. Each company has benefits that are better than the other. If one was sooo much better with (put something here). Then only one carrrier would have all the customers......

10. Windsponge posted on 13 Nov 2009, 19:19

I would just like to say it's funny as long as Att boast it is ok when Verizon turns the table they cry. I have bought the last two I Phones.3gswould lose signal but would show full bars. I had to reset phone just to make or recieve call. Wether phone or network I dont care if you didn't catch it you might be with out phone for hours. I bought Droid and at least I am not missing calls and can call when I want with out resitting. I won't buy another I phone because this last one was to much trouble.Plus att will not let you down load a lot of apps due to size on edge or 3g. Crybabys have lost me as a customer.

11. Doakie posted on 13 Nov 2009, 19:31

Well we all have heard the back and forth between AT&T and Verizon, each has their claim to fame. The one thing that always jumps to mind for me is the story on the 30% dropped call rate in New York on the iphone. http://gizmodo.com/5370493/apple-genius-bar-iphones-30-call-drop-is-normal-in-new-york So with a reputable source like the "Apple Genius'" stating that fact, they seem to be throwing AT&T under the bus of consumer satisfaction. I havent heard any claims like that against Verizon. If anyone knows of a claim please post it in a reply and I'll stand corrected. Also dont call me a Verizon fanboy, cus I have a Tmobile G1 and a Centro on Sprint. So i couldnt really care less about this squabble.

22. ggp (unregistered) posted on 14 Nov 2009, 00:49

VZW just needs to get the iphone and put ATT out of their misery

28. VZW posted on 14 Nov 2009, 10:08

It will be out in 2010 for sure. We got something from corp yesterday on it.

23. Phullofphil posted on 14 Nov 2009, 03:55

i was going to read all this stuff but cant get past more than two sentences. ALl i know is that with verizon i dont have to stay in one spott for good reception and another thing why would you be talking on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. The iphone cant even tether and i dont think can even multitask.

24. jundibasam posted on 14 Nov 2009, 08:15

I lament the fact that people are posting things they have no idea about. The lawsuit isn't about the validity or accuracy of the coverage maps at all. In fact, if you read the actual complaint AT&T filed, they say they have no quarel with the maps or the coverage itself (thus implicitely confirming Verizon's coverage superiority, imo). The beef AT&T has is that they feel Verizon is misleading the general public because the maps imply AT&T doesn't have coverage in the white areas. I think that is bogus too, and a corporate marketing attorney who specializes in false advertising litigation said on Fox Business that AT&T really has no merit and he believes it will be dismissed outright. The ads explicitely say 3G and data usage, but never mention anything about making phone calls. Really. So start reading what its actually about instead of spinning it and misleading others. As a former AT&T customer, its great to be able to surf the web and talk at the same time. I didn't do it often, but when I did, it was convenient. However, AT&T's coverage throughout the Southeastern U.S. (Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida) stinks and i'd rather have a stable, reliable service that I can use than to have a feature like simultaneous web browsing/voice calls that I can barely use either for by itself.

26. tuminatr posted on 14 Nov 2009, 09:43

an announcement for all you att folks talking about voice and data at the same time its coming soon to a cdma network new you http://cdg.org/news/press/2009/Aug17_09.asp I understand this is a first quarter enhancement, and then the 3g map is even more relevant because att users can only do this in 3g coverage

29. crappypunk posted on 14 Nov 2009, 11:55

I just think at&t is being a bunch of babies.. didn't they try to sue Verizon not too long ago saying Verizon saying they had the most reliable 3g network was invalid because their 3g was faster and by being faster it meant it was more reliable? Everything they are saying is hilarious because it's just the network that really doesn't care about their customers wants to cry their way back to the top.

31. lovebuzz posted on 14 Nov 2009, 19:21

Um, too bad i CAN talk and go online at once, i do it all the time with the Samsung Omnia. AT&T is full of sh*t, they're squirming in their seats because now they can't hide behind their little stories anymore. Did you know that their "fastest network" is actually only the fastest in peak points? And rarely do any of the carriers actually hit their peak with service on a regular basis. So they are fastest at hitting the highest mark, but if Verizon or Sprint can't even hit that mark at a regular pace, what REALLY makes you think AT&T can? And their claim about 75% of the country having 3G? .... Come on, do i even have to say anything? We've all seen their maps, and it ain't pretty. There is little to no 3G, the vast majority of their network is still squatting on 2.5G, or EDGE as they call it. So yeah, say what you want but maps and snarky little commercials don't lie, AT&T does.

36. videobandit posted on 16 Nov 2009, 00:17

i'm not an at&t fan at all, but they do not claim 75% of the country has 3g, they claim 75% of the population does. they are in fact correct due to much larger amounts of people living in cities.

32. johnolesen posted on 15 Nov 2009, 00:17

..i can send emails / sms / mms all while calling...and with wifi on the phone, you can do anything while calling. AT&T is a one trick pony. the iPhone, that's it. Verizon just launched 4 handsets within a month-that by pure specs, trumps the iPhone on different levels. The Storm2, the HTC Imagio, the HTC DROID Eris, and the Motorola DROID. With the Omnia II coming out, Motorola Calgary, and HTC Passion all on the horizon, VZW smartphone ARMY is already looking better than AT&T's single line of defense.

33. Jyakotu posted on 15 Nov 2009, 00:26

Comments on multiple cell phone websites confuse me. A lot of people talk about about the iPhone, but so many people want it to be on Verizon. Personally, I don't have a problem with AT&T and I love the service. Verizon is just going all out this year and it's just really starting to scare me actually. They seem to just be attack AT&T and are seem to be forgetting about Sprint and T-Mobile. Frankly, Verizon seems to forget that they had to buy out Alltel in order to get that 3G coverage. It's no different from AT&T buying Cingular, Sprint buying Nextel, and T-Mobile buying Suncom.

35. YouLostTheGame posted on 15 Nov 2009, 22:26

Soooooo, if it's not different, doesn't that make your point moot? And that may be true for VZWs current network, but when VZW gets their national LTE coverage rolled out, that will be all them, as they won the VAST majority of 700Mhz spec, while ATT acquired by contrast a piddly chunk. Seems to me other LTE carriers are going to more than likely be paying VZW big chunks of cash to roam on VZWs more geographically superior network. That just means more money going into VZW that they can sink into their network like they already do, and therefore continue to provide a top quality network.

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