AT&T and Microsoft to hand out freebies with orders for the Nokia Lumia 1520
0. phoneArena 10 Nov 2013, 01:31 posted on
On Friday, we told you that AT&T had started accepting pre-orders for the Nokia Lumia 1520; the phablet will actually be released on November 22nd/ AT&T is asking $199.99 with a signed two-year contract for the phablet. Besides the handset, the first Windows Phone model to carry the GDR3 update, the carrier is tossing in some freebies to buyers as is Microsoft...
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1. LiyanaBG (Posts: 381; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)
excellent phone.if it came to T-Mobile it will be the first windows phablet/phone i would try. although i love Android. this phone is tempting
11. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
There are so many phones are coming from Nokia so stay tune for that.
18. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
google it tmobile not interested in the new Nokia only the upgrade to the 521
21. LiyanaBG (Posts: 381; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)
i know i read it before. bad decision by T-Mobile they missing out on an excellent phablet/phone.
2. GrapeEyes (Posts: 248; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)
I will not buy from AT&T purely because they are stripping an amazing phone for their own greed:
1. 16GB only so you use and rely on their storage locker
2. Qi removed so they keep their partners happy.
I know some people don't care about the above things I mentioned because the off contract price is still fantastic for what you are getting.
If I was to choose then I would buy from the Microsoft store because you get more freebies :)
I am waiting for the international version that I believe is coming out between Nov 25 and the Dec 4.
5. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1119; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
They are releasing a 32GB option soon. I believe one of the main reasons they decided to release the 16GB option, in addition to what you mentioned, is that the cost of the device would've been higher at the $250 or $300 range. Windows Phone is not popular enough right now to compete against the likes of a the Note 3 or other $300 devices.
28. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Where did you hear about a 32gb option❔ Do you have a link❔
10. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
I like that Nokia made International version 1520 is fully features packed.
13. papss (unregistered)
You do know it has an sd card option you know
17. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I never did wireless charging so I cannot talk if its a big problem or people just making it a big problem because its allowed somewhere and not somewhere else......the 16gb argument would be an argument if the phone did not accept SD card but since it do this is a weak argument, I would gladly take this phone for every other feature for 200 then pay 250 to 300 just for 16 gigs more when I can just buy a 64 gig card
3. galanoth (Posts: 425; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
The release date is 11/22?
I was in my AT&T store yesterday and they already had the 1520 on display.
Full working model and everything.
4. LiyanaBG (Posts: 381; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)
how did you like it in person? or better yet what are your thoughts?
8. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
I got go play with on in the MS store. I'm not a phablet guy so I was expecting it to feel awkward but it didn't. It's light and very usable. If was planning on getting a Surface 2 in the next month I'd probably grab one.
19. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
sounds like good news I was hoping it be a smooth transition from my note to the 1520
25. papss (unregistered)
Which note do you own?
9. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Exactly. They need the Nokia signature color. It's no wonder Nokia isn't doing well, with all of the launch mistakes they make.
14. papss (unregistered)
Yeah the cyan color is the reason. If you had said carrier exclusive sure. I'd argue that red and yellow are signature colors too.
23. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Cyan color is a reason,albeit a minor one. Carrier exclusives and allowing carriers to remove features are big ones. There are a few more, but all of them add up to their loss of autonomy.
26. papss (unregistered)
It has an sd card so the lower amount isn't a big deal. Wireless charging is in almost no phones so I would disagree that either are reason enough
32. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Oh, don't mistake me, I'm still getting one, but this is just crap that ATT is allowed to do this. I went to my local and played with it a little while ago. It was sweet.
52. papss (unregistered)
I hear you man. I did the same it was pretty bada$$
20. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
that is the color I wanted the most, but I settle for red, I almost took yellow, but Microsoft website wasnt selling the yellow cause of limited qualities and they had a better deal then AT&T
22. LiyanaBG (Posts: 381; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)
cyan color is the best color on Nokia Phones.
24. papss (unregistered)
I thought that until owning that color. I've had red, yellow and cyan and I prefer red.
12. GoBears (Posts: 448; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
I recently picked up a Lumia 928 a few weeks ago because it's the best wp8 i can get on Big Red right now. I must say that Nokia's build and hardware are fantastic. Wp8 is just so far behind the functionality of Android I just can't use it for my primary. It's really a shame because I feel a combo of the 1520 with the 41mp camera and KitKat running the show, would be a dominant device in the marketplace. I love Nokia just not Wp8, although I'm trying and will probably get the 929 since BigRed won't be getting this.
15. papss (unregistered)
While not as technical it is getting there and I'd argue that it feels better. I love my note 3 for obvious reasons but continue to go back to my 1020
29. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
What would YOU be missing out on with WP that YOU use on a regular basis with Android❔. IOW, something that you couldn't live without.. Honest question, that's all.
30. GoBears (Posts: 448; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Me? Lots of things really. For starters the ability to download a torrent or set a custom sms tone. Maybe a simple app to keep the screen on when I listen to tunes. How about a music player that I can actually manually slide to seek. I play Hanging with Friends with several people. No decent Facebook app. No decent Dropbox app and the list goes on. I miss the notifications and light from my Note2. Having to navigate through the settings to toggle things on and off is a real pain in the a$$ too. Believe me I'm trying to like it because I love Nokia's hardware, it's just too closed up.
36. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I see. A lot of those things are coming, or improving, so it's not to bad.. But, those are the personal things that I asked you to mention so fair enough.. Nevertheless, we have to be honest about what the average consumer looks for, and is picky about, but on the other side this isn't a device that's geared towards the average person. So, its not 100% fair for me to say that.. Hopefully Microkia is looking at options like what you mentioned when thinking about being more competitive.. Camera technology isn't everything.. I'm glad you gave some real features that you would like,, and in a very unbiased way.. Good job.. And, let Michael Stroh know your opinion on the WP Blog because he always passes our ideas onto the WP engineering team.. A lot of things have happened because of our feedback on the WP blog, and you have some really good ideas..
37. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I do not know for torrent, but 1520 comes with gdr3 update which allow custom tones for anything, text, instant message or whatever.....I do not know much about music player, but it is not bad, I use all 3 google play music, windows 8, iphone they all pretty good for what they do, unless you talking about downloading another music app.......I will admit I love the google play music out of all 3 because I can stream my music, but with windows skydrive I read you can do the same so its about equal or if you get the att deal with free 50 gig cloud storage that can store a great amount of songs so its about equal to me in music, but its like I said maybe you was talking about a third party music app....I dnt know all the features of gdr3, but os it not that far away from droid as in switching over......if your the type to customize a lot then I will understand, I do not customize my note so i use it how it looks wen i turn it on so switching to a os that do not allow me to customize wont be a big deal for me, or even if I go to apple since I do not customize.....i do not know if I will like windows but come nov 22 when my order gets here I will make my judgments then.....
27. Tottenham (Posts: 86; Member since: 05 Jan 2011)
Looks like a really nice phone. I checked out the 1020 and really liked the build and snappy performance. However, the Windows Phone app store is so far behind Android and iOS that I'm really reluctant to commit to a two year contract to see if Microsoft can rapidly gain some ground.
I hitched my wagon to Sprint 2 years ago with that same expectation for the LTE build out. Two years later and I'm still waiting for it in Knoxville. Going to AT&T and will likely pick up the Note 3. Don't want to deal with another two years of waiting for things to get better, whether it be the network or app options.
31. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Go for the Note 3, it's more compact than this and has a vastly better software with S pen really making it a full fledged pocket pc.
You will not regret it, I tell you that as a Note 3 owner.
I'm editing videos, photos, making spreadsheets, office documents and infographics with it.
It does EVERYTHING I used to do on a desktop computer, and does it easy and simple.
Also a superb digital art making tool if you like drawing.
Multitasking is amazing, allowing you to browse internet and play Real Racing 3 at the same time, etc.
All without ever crashing, hanging, even stuttering once!
Lastly, keep in mind this - Android is on the brink of it's greatest revolution in terms of efficiency and performance.
With the next release it will shape up into a truly brilliant OS that will leave nothing to wish for.
38. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
he may not use his pen like me and my boy, not everyone use the pen, I agree with your next line about editing videos photos and etc but he could do the same with 1520 and even better since its the actual microsoft office....I will agree its nice to draw on Note 3 so if you do like to draw Note 3 is a great option........we cannot judge multitasking yet because 1520 only phone with gdr3 so your basing off old phones this is not a fair argument make you look bias......windows do not crash either remember windows phone was use weaker chips then android for a while and the os was way more responsive then android with no rebooting.....which my old dual core droid crash, hang and stutter....so since both of them use the same chip and windows is not a big resource as droids, I think there should be a bigger performance on the 1520.........this is how I see it from observing....
1520 have better display (this could be an opinion since I prefer real colors, but it also have assertive display), have a bigger battery, have a better build, have a better camera, if you like to use gps without burning your internet it have a better offline gps, and it use same powerful chip as note 3 so its no slouch.........Note 3 have a better display (if you like the extra colors), it have the pen, it have the multitasking window, it use android which is something people comfortable with, it have Samsung name on it a company that innovates, and you can customize many things........i did not talk about apps but samsung would win in that department, but if you do not have a wild amount of apps then its a even field.....no matter how you or anyone put it as a phablet 1520 eclipse any other but if you talk about the os then it makes the note seem like a good buy also but only if you do not mind missing a few apps and if you rather a pen, but if you do not mind the app selection and the pen then the 1520 is hands down the winner as a phablet......I do not think pen is important but people bring it up all the time if that was the case more ipad mini would have a pen, not every tablet phablet need a pen, but if it comes with one then I won't mind so pick another excuse.....or at least bring a fair assessment on both phones...by the way gdr3 update seem to bring all things i need to move on to 1520, I did not realize until I seen the list that there was basic stuff missing like the guy above said in the past no custom tones I do not use custom tones on my note but all my friends do, Microsoft need to get these basic stuff out the way faster
40. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
I really doubt you ever used an S pen.
Nor have you ever created a serious office document, video etc.
Nor you really are grasping and seriously accepting the following - with Note 3 you really CAN DO a desktop grade productivity, and do it easily, intuitively and hassle free! The S pen and android make huge difference for productivity tasks because of the precision, flexibility and additional capabilities.
It is like comparing a mouse with a sloppy touchpad in terms of productivity.
If you noticed, I wasn't talking about hardware but about user experience and capabilities.
For the user buying a palmtop, those two are crucial. What's the point in getting a device that has basically the same user experience and capabilities like the entry level windows phone?
What that Lumia desperately needs is windows RT-like functionality.
Windows phone is a total waste for such fantastic hardware, making it not much more than an enlarged Lumia 520.
As for hardware.. the screen of Note 3 is superb and has very natural colors.
Read about it in the DisplayMate analysis.
You can even precisely pick the completely individual display setting manually according to your vision, which is a first in a phone.
If you want, I will post a screenshot of that feature.
As for the outdoor visibility, I tell you first hand, it is just fine, with auto brightness.
Much better than in any other phone I used, and absolutely sufficient.
Last but not least, the battery runtime is fabulous and.. you can just swap the battery, or replace it when it gets old, which is a major advantage.
41. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
..also, you are missing another major point for the Note 3 - it is much smaller and lighter and can actually be used single handed.
Both because of the relative compactness, and because of the brilliant adaptive screen diagonal feature.
You can decrease the whole screen diagonal with one gesture!
Bottom line - the Note is far easier to handle and manipulate with, and that is an advantage which is crucial in a pamtop.
42. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Sorry, I missed to add.. your performance argument, even if somehow valid at the moment, (although any performance complaint is completely out of place when you talk about the Note 3 - it just flies and is perfectly stable ),.will probably turn moot in the future.
Like I mentioned, Android is making great strides in areas of performance and efficiency, and will soon get rid of the only thing that hindered it - the Dalvik.
Heres a good read for you:
And you can be sure that Note 3 will get at least 3 major Android release updates.
It will become even faster and more efficient.
49. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
yeah I remember reading that article, I think its great that they doing that, droids will benefit a lot more, not just samsung, well hopefully note 3 get 3 updates, I think note 1 had 2 updates or 1, note 2 is soon to get first update or is the second, I never seen samsung do 3 for their notes yet, but time will tell.....Sony is getting better at their updates.....I will admit that i hope next year they make a google edition note 4, I would rather get the updates from google instead
51. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
yep just check it.....note 1 had only 1 update it went from 2.3 to 4.1 do not update to 4.1 if you have original note it started acting weird since that update, someone else on this website wrote the same problems, I thought they did that on purpose so we can upgrade to note 2 since they both came out in the same year in different months......note 2 did not get its first yet nor did note 3
46. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I agree it is smaller, but I wanted samsung to make it 6 inch, I will be honest, if lumia 1520 did not come out, I would of tried Sony Ultra Z, and that too did not have a pen, which I am okay with, I just wanted a bigger screen
45. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I use the pen since the first Note, no one bashing note I gave my opinion, and I never use the pen like that, millions of people do not use the pen like that, there are more tablets without pens then there are tablets with pens, look I get it you like the pen, theres nothing wrong with that, all I say people need to stop putting it down because it do not have a pen, if that is the case all tablets need to lose points for no pen.....I will admit I never really use office on any of my note's like that, but why would Micrsoft put their best version on other platforms if they did put an exact with exact features then I do not mind saying sorry, my pride is not that big......the one I did use on my Note was office suite professional 7, but like I said I always prefer doing my work on my laptop, and it will stay the same when i get the 1520..........battery situation is all opinion, none of my friends or people I randomly talk to about phones buy an extra battery, but people on this website do, so I can see it benefits some not all, I never replace my battery, but then again I never been with a phone for long, since I started working so I would always switch up if something comes along.....read my post display is all opinion even with the settings if you seen I put them both as a pro, although I still do not like amoled screen, if you read you wouldn't be so defensive and I said what you said about note features, which I said os on samsung make the features of samsung stand out compare to 1520......I get it your a samsung fan, I use a note too you do not have to explain the features, I am the one who got most of my friends to get a note or at least a galaxy phone
53. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
I'm a Samsung fan, but just because I realized that they offer the most complete products with only tradeoffs being the lack of "premium " feel.
I've used many phones from many manufacturers (Nokia included ), so I don't have the need to be defensive about Samsung.
In fact I wanted to go Sony because they are still my heart's favorite, but it's Sony's fault that I haven't and bought a Note 3 instead of the heavily compromised Xperia Z Ultra.
Now, my notion about the screen was simply to address your stereotyped, generalized view - amoled being saturated and punchy, LCD being more natural looking and easier on the eye.
And that is simply NOT TRUE ANYMORE.
The Note 3 does offer a typically super punchy look, but only in the standard setting mode!
In the movie or professional photo mode, you will get an accurate looking picture with unrivalled black levels being the only way you can tell it's an OLED.
Here, Samsung really have evolved this screen technology to the level of no weak points and only strengths left.
Finally, you can go on arguing about the use case of the S pen, but it is ridiculous to say it isn't an advantage.
The mere fact it is there is a factual advantage already.
It's almost like arguing that having more doors or bigger trunk in a car (all else being the same ) isn't a factual advantage just because most people won't need it.
And I say almost because the Stylus pens have vastly underrated usability potential, and can be a huge benefit for almost everyone.
54. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I understand your point, its nice talking to you, I respect your opinion, as much as you may think I disagree with theres a whole that I agree with you at the same time, so I will say I respect your opinion....we must do this again, I will be better able to judge both my note and 1520 once the 1520 come to my house I need a few days worth to see if I miss any droid features from samsung
55. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
..back at you, pal..: )
It is good and refreshing to have a civilized, polite and constructive conversation here,
So, respect to you and your opinion, and rest assured that I understand your points.
If bigger screen is your first, second and third priority, I'm sure you'll be happy with the amazing 1520.
And I hope Microsoft someday delivers the software that will really use the potential of device.
57. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I thumbs up, you are the most polite and easiest person to talk to on here
33. GrosseFatigue (Posts: 138; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
The screen is magnificent but the eco system around Windows phones is poor and I can't stand Bing. It took forever to load the New York Times at the store. You get Binged all the time when surfing and the reason to buy a big screen like that is to surf. I'll pass.
39. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
a store where everything shares the same wifi connection or was this on ATT network
43. GrosseFatigue (Posts: 138; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Must have been on an ATT store WiFi connection I suppose. The screen is the best in the business, the camera is the best and I really want to buy this phone for personal use. I have a Note 2 for business. Nokias also don't look like any other cell phones and I really like their no nonsense, opposite to piece of jewelry cell phones. I have to go back to that store to try it some more. I am curious to read Phone Arena review. I need to have a good experience surfing the net and reading the newspapers on the train on this phone with Bing out of the way and Google search working. Bing is really irritating to me.
48. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
yeah I like the Nokia design, it makes owning a phone look fun......I do not use cases so you know when my preorder come in I will be showing off my 1520, that microsoft deal was too good to be true, 70 dollars to use for apps I wont even use none just keep it there if they allow me
44. GrosseFatigue (Posts: 138; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
I mean if this phone was an Android it would burry the competition. Nokia is back big time.
47. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
if it was on android, I would not have look at windows, but I been with android for a long time, I wanna switch it up......I will be honest with you if Apple had come out with a 6 inch phone like this, I would not know which to choose, because I never had new windows, and I never use apple......I only used the old Windows when HTC was the best and it had the qwerty keyboard which was beautiful.....but yeah, if Nokia had made a android version I would of tried it out honestly
50. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
the thing is when you use a od for so long you already know what to expect even with the few new features every update, I like to change that up sometimes, like I do with consoles....ps3 last gen, Wii U this gen, and when xbox 2 comes out I will get that, so I can try everything out
56. GrosseFatigue (Posts: 138; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
I may try a 1520 to replace my second cell for personal use after all. I played with one again tonight and it is really tempting with access to 365 office and the cloud and stuff. One Android and one Windows cell. It is really a beautiful cell. Phone Arena hurry up with your review. It doesn't feel too big like the 6.3 Samsung. It doesn't slip from your hand like a Note 2. This phone is state of the art leapfrogging every other phablets. The next Note only will have a screen and a camera that good.