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AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note LTE won't support T-Mobile's AWS for HSPA+

0. phoneArena 16 Feb 2012, 09:36 posted on

AT&T’s humongous Samsung Galaxy Note LTE with its 5.3-inch screen is the perfect beast of a phone for basketball players, artists and... probably not that many other people…

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posted on 16 Feb 2012, 09:39 2

1. kcombs (Posts: 254; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)


that's one of the main reasons I do no purchase unlocked phones, most of the time it will only work on EDGE..

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 09:50 2

2. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


the international GSM unlocked note runs perfectly on tmo's 4g.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 10:19 3

4. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


It does NOT. It only runs on EDGE. I'm 100% sure of that.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:39

7. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


Why would anyone thumb down me for correcting an incorrect statement. The article is referring to T-mobile USA, where is the confusion?

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 14:18

13. shimmyx20 (Posts: 280; Member since: 03 Mar 2009)


They can't handle the truth!

You are correct though, according to GSM Arena, the intl Note runs on HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 14:35 1

14. remixfa (Posts: 14181; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you are correct, so you get the green thumb from me. :)
the only pentaband major phone that i know off is the G-Nexus. If its not pentaband or made for Tmobile specifically, it more than likely is EDGE only.

posted on 18 Feb 2012, 07:27 1

15. indigo87 (Posts: 40; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


No offence but HSDPA is not 4g, it gets 4g like speeds but is not 4g. LTE is 4g , the weakess LTE signal is still equal or is greater then the best HSDPA singal.

T-mobile only has LTE in continents like europe, Asia, but not in the north american continent. so why buy a LTE phone and not have on LTE is kind of dumb. another thing is they're still working on international LTE roaming agreements so US-LTE and European-LTE are not compatible at this point in time.

posted on 18 Feb 2012, 08:58 2

16. remixfa (Posts: 14181; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no offence but you are completly wrong and shouldnt thumb yourself up

according to the ruling bodies that actually set the standards, HSPA+ IS 4G. This is an out dated argument.
The only thing that makes it 4G at this point is the important part, the speed. It has to be capable of going over 12mbps as well as being either HSPA+,LTE, or Wimax. In all reality, sprint's wimax is NOT 4g since its max is 12mbps it will never actually hit that in real life. But since its rated for 12, they get to call it 4g. Much like many of ATT's "4g" non LTE phones. (the phones are rated for 14 and 21mb/s but the network only goes to 11mpbs)

T-Mobile's 4g however goes up to 42mbs, with real worlds in the 20s-30s... Sound like something else? Yea, just like VZW/ATT LTE which gets the same speeds in the real worlds. This year tmobile is set to jump to 84mb/s HSPA+ which would then make it faster than VZW/ATT LTE speeds.

And all for 60 bux for unlimited everything.

quit holding on to old information. That changed well over a year or 2 ago now.

posted on 19 Feb 2012, 23:13

20. indigo87 (Posts: 40; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Remixfa your an idoit, you didn't read i put HSDPA and not HSPA+ theres a different in the two so quit jumping the gun, 42mbs is something you'll never see personally cause it was the speed test in las vegas with no one else on the network, wimax got similar test speeds in las vegas(again with no else on the network).

By the way look up sprint LTE speed test again its easy to get those speeds with no one else on the network, we test our motorola razr all the time, the highest speed test we got is 25mbs in the bay area.

If your going to talk about people hold on old info 42 mbs speed test in vegas is pretty old info so stfu remixfa and then you're talking about 84mbs again easy to get when you live in the middle of no where no one else is on the network when testing, get real those are speeds you'll not see in a heavily populated area with heavy data users

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 20:42

23. remixfa (Posts: 14181; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Your right about the HSDPA thing. I read it wrong. No reason to be a complete ass about it though.

Wimax is only capable of up to 12mb/s on the sprint network. It doesnt get anywhere near what Tmobile HSPA+ gets.

I live in the middle of a big populated city. The HSPA+ there rides anywhere from 10mb/s during lunch to consistent high 20's and spikes in the 30's during low load times. When they raise it up to 84mb/s, I expect that to go up by near 50% realistically. Which, again, for the price, is phenomenal.

Sprint doesnt use LTE currently, it uses WiMax... Nor does Sprint have a version of the Razr. Talking about VZW instead? LOL.

If your going to be an ass and call me an idiot for misreading HSDPA for HSPA, at least be smart enough to get your following information right.

posted on 22 Feb 2012, 09:50

24. indigo87 (Posts: 40; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


I was asking you to look up sprint LTE speed test, and yes I was talking about our vzw motorola razr I put comma between the two subjects I should of put a period or double space I guess, sorry for calling you an idoit.

I will agree with you T-mobile does offer great prices for their plans but their voice network sucks in small towns but if you live in the city its fine and sometimes great.

Sprint does have LTE it is not publically available at this part of the stage, sprint is still trying to tie in a couple of loose ends both lightsquare and clearwire needs to finish their LTE towers before sprint lunches LTE to the public.

I work at radio shack so a lot of my info is from our reps sprint, vzw, & at&t.

Sprints is trying to lunch and multi-band LTE network at least by 2013, sprint is also getting rid of wimax by 2015 / putting wimax on the back burner until farther development. according to my rep.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 09:53 1

3. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


Get an unlocked Galaxy note . But if it is me i would get a galaxy nexus

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 10:44 4

5. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)


To buy a Galaxy Nexus that works on T-Mobile do you have to buy it overseas somewhere?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:01

8. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)


hahahaha 2 thumbs down for a simple question. The mother of the dumb asses is always expecting!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:06

9. pagusman (Posts: 8; Member since: 30 Jan 2011)


If I'm not mistaken, the GSM version is compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile HSPA+ frequencies regardless of where you buy it. However, you can always ask customer support at sites such as negrielectronics or expansys.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 20:09

10. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)


Very much appreciated.

posted on 18 Feb 2012, 09:00

17. remixfa (Posts: 14181; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


he is correct. It is pentaband. As long as its the GSM version, it should have all gsm frequencies in it.

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 07:03

12. Echel0n (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


You can purchase it from newegg.com

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 12:22 1

6. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


@k1ng617 and squallz506:

You have to be specific which Tmobile you're referring to. If you referring to TMo USA, then no, you can only go as fast as EDGE on their network with the Note. But if you're referring to TMo in Europe, then that's a different story.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 20:57 2

11. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


wow that sucks most people wont have 4g then unless your among the lucky ones that do live in a 4g area

posted on 19 Feb 2012, 06:18

18. Echel0n (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


The phone actually has support for T-Mobile US and someone will hopefully be able to figure out how to get it working. See this thread

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1& #8203395971

posted on 19 Feb 2012, 06:21

19. Echel0n (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


remove the space from the "&" and the "#". I had to put a space there for the link to show properly

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 13:31

21. Echel0n (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395971

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 19:28

22. silverapple2011 (Posts: 1; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)


So does the international unlocked version REALLY WORK on T-Mobile's 4G?
Im very sad because i bought the Galaxy S2 and it didnt look like the one on samsung.com and returned it to T-Mobile and looked for the other one and found it, but then noticed that the screen was smaller and the proccesor was a bit slower, and it costs full retail price without contract, so i was thinking about it or staying with my iPhone 4, but then noticed a new samsung galaxy, the Note, but the price was almost the same, and it's worth it, but know, NO 4G SPEEDS WITH T-MOBILE!!! So then i don't know wich phone to pick because the Droid RAZR MAXX only supports CDMA carriers, very sad.

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