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A vision for Google Wireless and the troubles it would face

0. phoneArena 16 Nov 2012, 12:16 posted on

Yesterday, we heard rumors that Google is attempting to build its own wireless carrier. Apparently, Google has been in talks with Dish Network as well as other companies to try to find a partner in building a mobile carrier. The first reaction from many is that this would be a great idea, but there are some trouble spots that Google will have to watch out for if it does try to create the so-called G-Mobile wireless carrier...

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posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:37 21

1. mozes316 (Posts: 142; Member since: 30 Sep 2011)


I always wanted this to happen. Nice article.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 21:13 2

30. joey_sfb (Posts: 3132; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Maybe, Google partnership would put an end to crapware preloaded into phone and a Carrier branding on the phone's home button.

We can only hope.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:03 1

32. HäckeMáte (Posts: 168; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


Right... Cuz when you use youtube they never have ads. And when you do a google search, no ads there either.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 06:45 1

37. longhairbilly (Posts: 64; Member since: 23 Aug 2010)


How do you compare bloatware installed on the phone to ads?

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 19:26

38. HäckeMáte (Posts: 168; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


Carriers make their money on preloaded software (bloatware) and google makes theirs on ads. Either way there will always be unwanted junk preloaded. Just like Nexus devices are preloaded with google talk, so what happens if you use liveIM and never use Talk? Cant uninstall. Luckily google maps is the best navigation out there, so no worries there, but some people will never use google voice (texting app) or google wallet, or google goggles, etc etc.

My point is. Either way bloatware is inevitable. Less bloatware would be nice though

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 12:32

39. mozes316 (Posts: 142; Member since: 30 Sep 2011)


I see what you're saying, but Nexus' are made for the FULL Google experience, and most people that go for the Nexus are expecting and wanting that, therefore expecting the Google TALK and Google Search, ect... No one buys a "Droid" from Verizon hoping to get the Verizon experience of overpriced ringtones and overpriced mobile navigation apps.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:37 12

2. cncrim (Posts: 531; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Very good Article. In my opinion, if google does go on and become carrier it will definite good as far as price go for the customer however I don't know how bad/good it will be in the long term.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:40 8

3. dsDoan (Posts: 223; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


Sounds dreamy.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:40 9

4. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Here's to hoping this comes true...

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:43 9

5. shuaibhere (Posts: 1660; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Very nice article michael.....
I din expect this much when i saw the head lines of article......
In india there is no carriers problem.....they are just service providers......so google can easily step into india......if they do....then i will be very happy...
you are welcome google.....

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:46 7

6. Aeires (unregistered)


I don't know why, but the picture of all those green Andy's makes me smile.

FCC would really have to be convinced, and of course, all the carriers would gripe and moan like never before. If they could make it happen, just about everything we know about carriers would have to change.

Sign me up.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 22:39 1

31. laheelahee (Posts: 213; Member since: 09 Apr 2012)


reminds me of toy story. lol

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 12:57 2

7. Fuego84 (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 May 2012)


A super Wi-Fi phone no cellular bands. All super Wi-Fi network. Calls over Skype or other voip services.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:11 2

8. JunBringer (Posts: 101; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


Yes plz!

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:17 4

9. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I absolutely love this idea and been waiting for this. Google's involvement will always bring tough competition to the market which always benefits the consumers. The only thing about this is it seems very monopolistic, and the carrier will fight back using monopoly as the reason.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:19 5

10. New_Enthusiast (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I always love Micheal's articles. I can instantly recognize them because of his bold section headings. Good job on this one! I also would sign up for G-Mobile right away. Hopefully it would be a service that goes around the world. Not just a US carrier, a global one that uses the same frequencies across the board. Updates would come lightning fast. And the data speeds would be crazy. If they can offer Google Fiber with 1000Mb a second then their mobile speeds would be through the roof. So super cheap global coverage with super fast data and almost instant updates on all devices? Count me in.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:26 3

11. MartyK (Posts: 725; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Wow, first cable in my neighborhood, now possible wireless service?, call me G-Man or G-Lover!..hahahaha

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:29 4

12. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


All I heard was Android experience free from carrier bloat and no contract! If Google can actually get this off the ground, we can finally buy whatever phone you like and bring it to their network, something that Google has been keen on doing since the inception of the Nexus devices. There will be some serious opposition from VZW, AT&T, Sprint and the like because of Googles all encompassing reach, but hey competition is competition as long as it plays by the rules the Government sets forth. I see problems in China though, no two ways about that right there.

Dreaming of low cost cell service on a phone I chose because it fit what I wanted instead of having to choose phone by carrier. OEM would just have to make a phone that is compatible with world standards. One thing how is it LTE radios aren't able to just switch channels within the same band? Technology reaches this far, yet we have radios in cell phones that can't do multiple bands, that is mind boggling. Hope Qualcomm and Broadcom are up to the task of building baseband radios that can switch with a simple software update.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:50 4

13. wgaurav (Posts: 22; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)


Nice Article. I think, if Google ever hitches with Dish it will use some use surrogate network like Sprint(Multimode antenna) to host the spectrum. Also Google would launch more of a all data network rather than going in to legacy networks as it perfectly complements the Google's business.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 13:57 5

14. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2057; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Google FTW !!!

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:02 5

15. toiletcleaner (Posts: 200; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)


Apple will be the #1 to tried to stop Google. for Apple this will be the end of the line. Wall Street is focusing on Apple stocks and Google getting his own Wireless services, apple will see his end

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:30 2

16. cdgoin (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


Dont they have enough spare cash to just Buy T-mobile..?

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 16:10 4

23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


The point is that Google doesn't want to outright own a carrier, because that would bring the government real fast. Google is better served to just have a partnership with a company that owns the wireless spectrum.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 18:44 1

28. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


true.....

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:29

33. nofear (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


Then it will be GT-mobile.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:45

17. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


one word carrier subsidy.. well more like 2 words.. lol

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:53 2

19. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


No because subsidies bring more expensive rate plans, look at at&t and Verizon for instance

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:51

18. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Well, nokia created it's own ecosystem called symbian and MeeGo, and no one thought it was anticompetitive

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 16:12 2

24. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


1) Nokia isn't an American company, so American anti-trust laws don't matter.
2) Nokia doesn't own and control its own wireless carrier service.

Owning the hardware and software isn't a problem. Nokia does it, Google does it, so do Apple, Microsoft, and Samsung.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 17:27

26. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


So then Google doesn't own Android all? Microsoft makes it'sown phones? Google doesn't use Samsung and lg to manufacture their nexus line up? Hehe true for Apple they own their ecosystem lol

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 17:46 2

27. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Are you kidding me? I don't want to be rude, but I seriously cannot fathom how you came up with that as a response to what I said.

Let me clarify: Yes, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Nokia, RIM, and Samsung all OWN and control the HARDWARE/SOFTWARE ecosystem. That's not the issue.

The issue is that if you already own the hardware and software, it's legally risky to try to own the mobile carrier as well, which is why NONE of those companies own a wireless carrier.

Imagine if Verizon or AT&T suddenly bought RIM and started favoring BlackBerry hardware and software. That's what I'm talking about. No idea what you're trying to say.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 14:53

20. cdgoin (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


Then Apple buys AT&T

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 15:34

22. The_Innovation (Posts: 567; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)


Well, they have the money, that's for sure.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 15:33 4

21. The_Innovation (Posts: 567; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)


This would be an excellent idea! I hope it goes through.

I always wondered why Apple doesn't do this? An exclusive Apple network with cheaper plans for iPhones.

Maybe because there aren't that many iPhones being used, so they wouldn't generate that much income from it?

But I used the words Apple and cheaper in one sentence. This comment is now invalid.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 16:13

25. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Steve Jobs wanted to do it using WiFi, but couldn't get the idea off the ground.

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 19:10 1

29. Guandi (Posts: 1; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)


Oddly enough, I think Google might be able to make a case to the DOJ and the FCC here in the USA, that in fact they would be increasing competition here. The carriers in the USA have us over a barrel, and charge exorbitant rates for data in comparison to most other countries. It might be a stretch, but I think if they get good lawyers they might be able to pull it off.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:37

34. nofear (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


No I dont think so, VOIP is readily available any where when WiFi available. AT&T and VZ, their prices should coming down in order to compete with GT-mobile.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:27

35. wizzardtech (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)


A lot of people will lose their job.Other wireless company start losing business when subscriber starting to jump ship. Yes its Good for the consumer but for employees..i dont think so. Just like walmart, other business cannot survive around it.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 13:39

36. ckapasi (Posts: 11; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)


reallly nice article

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